1All who are under the yoke as slaves are to regard their own masters as worthy of all honor so that the name of God and our doctrine will not be spoken against. 2Those who have believers as their masters must not be disrespectful to them because they are brethren, but must serve them all the more, because those who partake of the benefit are believers and beloved. Teach and preach these principles.
3If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, 4he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, 5and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. 6But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment. 7For we have brought nothing into the world, so we cannot take anything out of it either. 8If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. 9But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
11But flee from these things, you man of God, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance and gentleness. 12Fight the good fight of faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. 13I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who testified the good confession before Pontius Pilate, 14that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15which He will bring about at the proper time—He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
17Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy. 18Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, 19storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.
20O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called “knowledge”— 21which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith.
Grace be with you. (1 Tim 6)
1Ti 6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
1Ti 6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.
1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Ti 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Ti 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
1Ti 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
1Ti 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
1Ti 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
1Ti 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
1Ti 6:18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
1Ti 6:19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
I was wondering if someone would do that.
kjv.
I was wondering why you still use Calvary Chapel/Ecumenism Bible versions while posting a passage of scripture that teaches separation from such things. Have you ever researched the Bible version issue? The Greek text that underlies all those versions is the Novum Testamentum Graece of which the Pope has had his men work on since it’s first draft. It is now in it’s 27th version and is the work of an ecumenical counsel which had Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini as the Popes man on the counsel. I would use 1 Timothy 6:4 to rebuke Mr Martini: (He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,) But how could I do that while using his version of the Bible. You expose Calvary Chapels connections to Roman so why not expose the ecumenical Bibles they use as well?
Mija I love your work and have great respect for you as a researcher so please don’t take this the wrong way. I’m not AV (KJV) only because I think it’s the inspired Word in English or that I think it’s been perfectly translated in every word. I believe it’s the best translation in English and it has nothing to do with the Pope and that’s why I use it. I’m not against a modern English translation and I do see the need for it, but only if it has nothing to do with the Pope will I even consider using it.
In Christ
The NASB has never been used in any Calvary Chapel I was ever at. Using that version says nothing about Calvary Chapel, it says a lot about you and your kind who are just waiting to exercise an attack on me. You appreciate my research, great, but you have issues with me over posting an entire chapter of God’s word because it was not KJV. I personally use both. I would say KJV over 80% of the time. I have nothing wrong with Kjv although I’ve studied that a little bit and in the end of that dispute it doesn’t make kjv onlys look any holier. Since you didn’t like the version I used and you just were compelled to post the kjv , which I don’t object to, now reread it and apply the dispute you are trying to make here. You found a way to turn God’s word into an ugly argument for what purpose? So people will stop reading here and go to your blog? Or why exactly? There’s people who expose, great, there’s people who teach great, and there’s people who evangelize great. I’m not going to tackle your argument and do tons of posts on it for your sake. I’m not an expert on bible versions. I think you can find other blogs that enjoy to have chit chat about that on their comments but that’s not me. You don’t have to make that argument (bible version) everywhere you go do you? What are you accomplishing? Do you want to argue for the sake of arguing? Do want me to say, teach me good solider all the various arguments and historical facts without the love of Christ so I can attack people who post a differing version. Wtg. You have a blog, that’s where you can take this vain dispute.
You might not want to listen to me but you might like to listen to one of the men behind the publication of the NASB , Frank Logsdon who repented of his involvement in the publication of the NASB and spent the rest of his life preaching against it.
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/logsdon.html
I’m reading a very interesting book myself right now attacking the AV “The People’s Bible by Derek Wilson” who do we find quoted on the inside cover? Felipe Fernandez Professor of History at the Catholic University of Notre Dame, so your “doesn’t make kjv onlys look any holier” remark is more than likely inspired by Jesuit propaganda. The book “ThePeople Bible” presents itself as fare and balanced but it is Jesuit Sophistry all the way through sprinkled with enough truth to leave the average researcher think they should bin the AV/KJV and go buy a Modern version. You are a watchman yet you leaving the enemy in the back book of the sheepfold and rebuking me for blowing the trumpet. Shame on you.
I find it interesting that you didn’t even consider the information I posted about Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini and the Novum Testamentum Graece.
“You don’t have to make that argument (bible version) everywhere you go do you?”
Yes I do actually other wise your blood might just be on my hands.
Rev 18:4-5 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Come out of her Mija
All the way, 80% of the way is still 20% apostasy.
“You have a blog, that’s where you can take this vain dispute.”
So no one is allowed correct you when you are in error and if they do you will automatically accuse them of attacking you and trying to steel your readers. I read many many blogs and so do your readers you don’t own there eye balls Mija and your not above question and nether am I.
So much for iron sharpens iron.
I will let you alone Mathew 15:14
I really wish you would stop accusing me of stuff. I did consider, I am considering, I am praying, I do want to obedient to MY GOD first and foremost. FYI, I have other things to tend to beside this blog and I was tending to those that have priority in my life.
“You are a watchman yet you leaving the enemy in the back book of the sheepfold and rebuking me for blowing the trumpet. Shame on you.”
First of all I’m surprised that you would call me a “Watchman.” I’ve read some of your posts on your blog and you know I’m a woman so for you to refer to me as a “watchman” is just kinda weird for me. I have not called myself a “Watchman.” I’m not rebuking you for blowing any trumpet. I’m simply saying posting on bible versions isn’t (or hasn’t been) my trumpet to blow. “Shame on you.” <— see this is counter productive. You want me to receive from you or not? You chastise me and then say I don't want to be corrected? I do appreciate others who had some love in their rebuke. Your comment, the very first one after you re-posted 1 Tim 6 in KJ was accusatory and presumptuous and the false claims you made there you have not apologized for yet.
This reply was in my spam box, I have no idea why, so this is going to be posted an replied to a lil late but that is good because I've had time to pray and seek my Abba over all of this.
Just so you know because you've made this whole thing very personal, I will continue to pray and I will begin to research this area more. I will "consider" what you've posted here but from this point forward I'm not seeking your advise on the matter. I'm very capable of doing my own research and very apt to seek confirmation from the LORD. Also, if I do get convicted by my Lord to not read the NASB any further, it will be a private matter, one that I do not feel I have to give an account to you for. So, you're going to have to trust the HOLY SPIRIT ok. One thing I stated recently to another detractor is that I remain teachable. The Lord convicted me in the last 48 hours on that, Are you teachable mija? And I replied, Yes Lord, I am. Teach me.
Ok I see you took great offence and added 1 + 1 and got 4 when it comes to me saying: “I was wondering why you still use Calvary Chapel/Ecumenism Bible versions while posting a passage of scripture that teaches separation from such things” I didn’t mean it to be taken as offensive so I do apologize for using that wording. But I do feel you overreacted big time but maybe you where just having a bad day.
You say my comment somehow ended up in spam, I would have been happier if you said you sent it to spam coz you were angry with me because that would make more sense, but I will accept that you are being truthful.
The watchman issue you bring up is spurious as we are all called to watch, you have a blog and you blow the trumpet if someone says they see something wrong and ask you to look even if they go about it the wrong way if the end result is that you are looking then I praise the Lord for letting us sharpen each other.
Luk_21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
The Shame on you comment I now withdraw as you have decided to look into the issue and I respect that. I will take my blog response down now and let you alone. I respect that you posted my original post which I post twice as I could believe that you had blocked me from posting so quick.
but I do think you need to change your banner and take that 33rd degree Freemason of the top of your blog it is a big red flag he is holding and I presume you didn’t realize what it was saying about you.
Also the Jews are brethren issue I still think you need to retract but as you said you don’t have to answer to me. You say you are teachable so I will let you alone on all these issue as you are very sensitive and take things way to personally.
You can comment under my blogs anytime you want and correct me if you feel I’m in error anytime you want and I will always consider what you have to say. I feel it is our responsibility to correct each other and also the greatest act of love I could do for you was to let you know you were off track on something I have spent over a year researching. Like I said in my original comment I have great respect for you as a researcher so I know I don’t need to point you in the write direction.
Peace Be With you Sister
In Jesus Christ who is come in the flesh
It was in spam, why would I lie about that. You truly have low esteem for me. I had no idea you wrote about me on your blog. You can do whatever you want with that post. I learned a lot this weekend. Rom 8:28-31.
Mijadedios, I do not see Good Soldier’s remarks as anything more than a caring attempt to provoke you to thought on this subject. I guess I’m having trouble understanding what it is you have taken such offense at. Are these not legitimate questions for us all, as believers, to wrestle with in our hearts?
The subject of Bible versions, though hijacked for other than righteous reasons by many and turned into opportunities for contentious argumentation, is a subject none of us can afford to sweep aside as unimportant. Good Soldier brings up significant observations and questions. He’s done you no harm. He’s simply floated some thoughts with accompanying questions that all of us would do well to study and consider. I hope we’re not expected to dance around this subject or cast it aside as unimportant simply because it has been turned into little more than a battle of wits these days, or a thing of little importance.
I don’t know Good Soldier personally, but have been to his website and looked around, and have read his comments here and elsewhere. I do not see him guilty of what you accuse him of. Maybe you’ll reconsider what he has said, and your response to it. With all respect, I think you have jumped to some mistaken conclusions about him. I don’t believe they were warranted. To tell you the truth, I was surprisingly taken aback at your response (staring at the screen, thinking “Wow… Really?”). It just seemed to come out of left field. I was not expecting from you the kind of response you gave him.
Good Soldier has voiced some things deserving of thought. The subject of Bible versions is one we should consider with all seriousness. It was a disappointment to see you so quickly resort to accusations of “attack”. I hope you are not inclined to think of challenges to your thinking as attacks. That is not the impression I have of you. What I saw in Good Soldier’s remarks were some worthy statements and questions, offered for your consideration. Thoughtfully offered. He wasn’t grandstanding; he was making a point. Several points, actually. I would have liked to see you engage his points. I didn’t think he was being contentious, high-minded or disrespectful. Your response could have been so different…
What did I accuse him of? He wasn’t asking me to consider, he accused me of using something other than kjv has something to do with an allegiance to CC, which I obviously dint have, and he’s telling me how to run my site by asking me why I didn’t take on bible versions as a post. I’m not a dj, I don’t take requests. He has his own blog, a comment section isn’t where you go to draw people to your site, that’s how I roll anyway. I have taken plenty of opposing views and comments over the years, this is not my first rodeo. I know when people are attempting to find fault and accuse and when I’m being exhorted, he was not exhorting me. I hear those arguments for kjv only and I think it’s truly sad. I’ve been accused and attacked for exposing wolves, which I know is going to happen, but for posting an entire chapter of scripture because it wasn’t kjv, that’s low.
Mijadedios, We all have areas we have not studied, but the NASB is a Catholic inspired Bible and another false version. In fact when I was a Catholic they had us use either the New American Version or the NASB. The NASB may not be offically approved in the RCC but is used there as well as daughter denominations like the Lutheran church. That I know for a fact. I think GS meant well here. It is a Westcott/Hort derived Bible. I know it took me a long time to study the differences between Bible versions, so please just take this in good faith. I used that Bible in the Catholic church. I do not want you to be upset with me, but this is something they even sent me off on that other website about, holding to the KJV Bible. People can be saved even with these other Bibles, but they DO have changed words and missing words and verses.
I’m not upset with you. I appreciate you explaining the NASB. Clearly I had no idea it’s a “Catholic” bible, I never was Catholic so I didn’t know that. I’ve never attended a CC that used NASB. In fact since this controversy although there were things said that were imo personal attacks, I have been praying and seeking God for help. One thing I was asking myself was where did I get the idea to read a NASB? Now I remember where, rather whom, it was that encouraged that version. That same person was highly critical of KJV only people and gave credible evidence that KJV also had it’s own ills. Now I don’t know if everyone missed this because they were busy defending Good Solider, but I did state that I use the KJV probably 80% of the time and I do not object to KJV. I do object to those who are militant and dogmatic about KJV only and those people often apologize first before they execute one for using anything other than KJV. No one asked what I use the other 20% of the time. I also use NKJV and obviously the Nasb. As a personal conviction when they all conflict I default to the KJV. But really do I need to explain that to anyone? Do I? Am I no longer a Sister in Christ Jesus for using the Nasb on occasion? Are not all the versions liable of having fault and some issues with its publishers etc.? Much of this controversy, although it was meant (again IMO) to be personal against me and maybe a fault finding mission, does this not speak volumes about where we are as Christians? It really made me think. I have prayed and will continue to do so and I ask those who feel so inclined to “convert” me to a KJV only and burn all my “other” versions to rather than send me emails and post volatile comments, PRAY for me. I had to deal with other issues this week where someone was trying to “convert” me to their own dogma and their own interpretation and they pursued the issue by quoting a book, written by men, who consequently I’ve already exposed. In the end I asked that person, bring me the scriptures but don’t bring me words of men. Above all, if you see that it’s a Salvation issue and that I’m going to burn in hell separated by my God over what Bible I use or what interpretation I have over a non-doctrine, then Pray for me and ask the HOLY SPIRIT to work on me. I am a child of God, I am called by Him and He can communicate to me when everyone else fails. (portions of this reply are not personal and directed toward you BB, but for clarification and exhortation to my detractors).
I say the above with good faith, and hope that you understand I mean nothing bad in doing so. With Bible versions, it took me a year and half to study it all and “get it”. It can be very complex. There are many who have not had the time to study this issue. So I understand that part Mija. They really did change Bibles outside of the KJV, to give them Jesuit and Catholic influence, even removing words changing verses, removing entire verses, to have the Bibles read differently. One interesting thing to do is online is compare the differences between the Bibles that others have done in research. I understand not being an expert on Bible versions, trust me on that one, it was that COMPLEX. I hated how they made it so confusing and subtle, and there was a time I even thought the NKJV may be OK, until I compared the verses for myself and got away from that Bible too. So I’ve had to make my own corrections.
I accept it was in spam and all I did was post my response that ended up in spam and ask a few other question like why the moon and why do you call Jews Brethren. Then I said that I would pray for you which I did, It was not my usual expose blog and I did it only because I thought you had banned me from posting on your blog over being KJV only without considering the information I was trying to present you with.
I’m praise God that you have changed your mind and decided to look into this issue as a result of our little argument. I take responsibility for my part in it and my errors I apologize for. BB defended you to me in privet as did others so please don’t think she was on your case only, she was also on mine.
I quote myself:
“Mija I love your work and have great respect for you as a researcher so please don’t take this the wrong way”
I am not against you and didn’t intentionally attack you , I called your attention to an error and I’m glad you have responded and promised to look into it and seek the Lord guidance on it.
You have to consider that the last line of your first response said:
“You have a blog, that’s where you can take this vain dispute.”
When my next comment went into spam, I presumed you had banned me and invited me to blog what you feel was a vain dispute but what I feel was a very important issue that is the foundation of Rome’s attack on the Body of Christ.
Psa 11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
I have full confidence in you finding out for yourself now that you are willing to look into it and I take no responsibility for that as it was the Lord working it out for his glory and not me that opened your eyes. I failed miserably at communicating with you yet the Lord turned it to good.
I greatly esteem you for listening to his voice.
I learned loads this week too and Praise my Father for teaching me a sinner to have more grace with others and he will work out the rest in his own time.
Peace be with you
In Jesus Christ
If you have a question regarding me, personally you can ask directly and I’ll answer directly unless I feel I’m being “lured” out, which has happened and I know the tricks. “Why the moon?” You must be referencing my picture at the top of my blog with the Moon landing iconic image. I don’t know why the “moon.” I tagged the American flag on photoshop with my acronym and I thought it was funny to imagine “N4TM” on the moon. I guess I could have done that to any picture. I used to have one with an old NBC microphone from the old days of it’s first broadcasts and put N4TM on that too. I’ve had different logos that I make myself on my free photo shop program from my pc. I have been accused before of being a “closet Jesuit” because of my use of “masses” in my Blog name. News for the masses, or N4TM (like other news shows that abbreviate their channel name). I mean nothing sinister by it but when someone is trying to find fault they don’t have to look very far and make stuff up. That is the flesh, yes, I agree and it should be crucified daily. I fall victim to reaction and presumption as well for that I will not harbor resentment toward you. Yes, what started out as an “assault” (imo) turned out for God’s glory. He is worthy to be praised. BTW I don’t “ban” people. It’s just as easy for people to come back under another false name and attack me, which people do all the time without having to be banned. WordPress didn’t recognize your email or something must have changed in your login for it to have gone to spam. I think it was Divine Intervention. Had I seen that before seeking the Lord it would have only made me more upset. It was still upsetting, you still took more jabs at me but I was in a better state having sought protection from my Abba. Why do I call Jews my “brethren?” I’m afraid I don’t follow what you are saying. In my about page I state that I believe the bible, that the Gospel was preached to the Jews first and to the Gentiles. I’m grafted in, as a non Jew. I’m not saying, nor have I ever stated, that Jews who are not saved by the Blood of Jesus are my brethren. Again, presumption and just looking to find fault. If you want to know just ask. It’s so much easier that way. But I always reserve the right to not answer, it’s like when you go to a restaurant, they reserve the right to decline service, same thing.
I asked you last June 6th to retract calling Jews Brethren in your Antisemitism Reaching a Crescendo blog and while you said a few things you never retracted:
Quote Mija: “There is a giant Gag order on the truth of what is happening in Gaza, Israel, and world wide in respect to my Jewish Brethren. I say Brethren, because as a Christian, I pray to the same God of the Torah, the God of the Jews, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. I have a Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ the Messiah to the Jews first, the Gentiles second. Because I attest to John 1:1, John 10:30, John 14:6, well for arguments sake everything from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21.”
https://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/antisemitism-reaching-a-crescendo/
The moon thing I will accept you didn’t realize that you had a 33rd Degree Freemason on your web banner. Change it or don’t change it, I don’t care anymore to attempt to correct you sister, as you have def ears to a brothers concerns and take everything I say as attack.
I also accept your explanation for why you are so sensitive and perceive everything as an attack, you get attacked all the time. You can also keep your opinion that it started out as an assault (imo what ever that means idk) if you like and I don’t hold any resentment over that but would like to point out that two people posted asking you what had just happened and not the other way round, I was making a valid point and you still haven’t retracted any and of your accusations toward me about trying to steel your readers, trying to assault you, starting a vain dispute ect..
Mija I am letting this all go I think Marion has made some very wise comments bellow we could both learn from. We don’t communicate well with each other, probably because of a personalty clash, so let just love each other as brethren and leave it at that.
Sorry I did not know that the moon landing was a Masonic event. And I am not an expert on everything Masonic Jesuit or occult, which I kinda think is a good thing, I’m not trying to immerse myself in evil. Phil 4:8 comes to mind. There has to be a balance and the Word of God has to always outweigh my devotion rather than studying all there is that is evil in this world. Wow, I just read that post you are referring to, keep in mind I did not read your hit piece on me that you posted on your site and I have no desire to do so. That article you are referencing I wrote in 2009. I don’t usually go back to those articles since it’s so old and no one has drawn my attention back there till now. Yeah, I see a lot of things wrong with that statement. And the whole article. First of all, Like I already told you Unsaved Jews would not be my brethren would they, I already clarified that and second, The article is about Anti-Semitism, because I was addressing those people who Hate the Jews. So it was an article intended to be in defense of Jewish hatred. Are you for Jewish Hatred? I don’t get your point there. Also, I do NOT endorse JIDF any longer because he turns out to be Anti-Christian!!! So yeah I will be taking down that whole post now, thank you for pointing that out. I’m shaking right now as I type because you just can’t stop accusing. Let me explain or at least ask me in a decent manner. I’ve changed a lot since 2009, “Good Solider.” People change who have the Holy Spirit convicting them of things. I appreciate you pointing out that horrible article and I will fix that, but I still don’t think that is going to change your opinion of me. For someone who esteems me so low and thinks I’m a Masonic heathen you certainly pay a lot of attention to every minute detail on my blog. Have you been trolling long or just recently? Are you trying to fault with me, because if you must know I’m a sinner and I sin every single day, in ways you would love to post about I’m sure. I’m not perfect, and I never pretend to be perfect. You want an apology for saying you were trying to get my readers to your site, I’m sorry for saying that. I do feel like you were trying to “attack” me and I don’t feel those attacks have stopped considering your insuating the Masonic “emblem” jab. What is that?! that’s not the Spirit of Love from a Brother. BB defended you minimally and was trying to reason, the other person, I know her personally and she can defend you all she wants, I think she’s was surprised at the tone I took with you and she could easily call me and ask me or email me but she took to comments so be it. It is what it is. I don’t ban people I told you this but I don’t like how you are conducting yourself here on my blog and I wish you would stop trying to “correct” me if that is what you think you are doing. If you’re trying to Correct me I would appreciate just a small fraction of respect as a Sister in error, you’ve not shown that at any point in your comments, they are always met with innuendo and insult. Please stop.
Mija, We both made errors in judgment and we both attacked each other. Please forgive me for getting the wrong end of the stick and please forgive me for jumping to the wrong conclusion when my response got sent to spam. I’m glad we have talked this all out and I’m truly sorry I ever posted anything that upset you I do wish I could take it all back and start over . I have already accepted all your explanations and forgiven you, thank you for accepting that I wasn’t trying to steel your readers. I do love you as a sister and that is why I brought these subjects up with you. I went about it the wrong way and then when you reacted so unexpectedly and my post ended up in spam I jumped to the wrong conclusion. As Marion has said I have way too much knowledge of the occult world. I spent 10 years seek enlightenment and 3 years researching the NWO before I got saved. So please forgive me for being over sensitive when it comes to the signs and symbols of Satan. When I got saved 15 months ago I burned all my books and smashed all my idols but I can’t erase my memory but I praise the Lord that I don’t think about that stuff anymore, but I do feel responsible to tell my brothers and sisters if I see something wrong or occult in what they are doing or using on there web sites. Sorry if that offended you, I meant it in love. I did have my concerns about you because of these things but because we have talked it all out and you have been so forthcoming as to explain yourself to me which you didn’t have to do and which I appreciate very much I have no reservations in say that I esteem you. Now it’s your turn to give grace to a brother and let him off the hook, I messed up but I’m trying to make amends. Like you said I’m a sinner your a sinner we all make errors, I’m open to correction and I’m glad that you are too.
If you Google Talmud Blasphemy against Christ you will find the quotes I was talking about, I never meant that you should read the whole book just what they really think about Jesus that makes it an Antichrist religion. I don’t hate Jew in any way nor do I hate Catholics or Muslims they are all lost and need to hear the gospel and it is because of this that I can’t stand Christian Zionism because it teaches another gospel. I praise the Lord that you have come out of this error. Please understand that it was with the best intentions that I pointed these things out to you, if I didn’t love you I would have just written you off and never bothered saying a word.
Now that we have had this conversation and we have come to understand each other better I do hope we can be friends and not enemy’s.
God Bless
That has been the best comment all week! Praise the Lord. thank you for that. I am sorry also for reacting so hyper-vigilantly. The ironic thing is I’m so Not Christian Zionist. I believe Christian Zionism is a false teaching in the church and there are many false prophets who are deliberately misleading the body of Christ in this area. Christian Zionism is idolatry in some churches where they lift up Israel so high it’s an idol, I feel the same way about those extreme US patriots who want to run over to the Middle East to kill Muslims and think that’s their patriotic duty. Both are equally abhorrent to me. You are right, we do need to love one another. I sat under CC teaching and went to those stupid conferences and heard how “evil” Muslims are and they want to kill Israel and the US for years I heard this message. Funny how God works, I met an Arab family after I left CC and they are Christians and a beautiful culture, they are originally from Iraq and enlightened me on the politics before the war most recent. It taught me a lot and opened my judgmental eyes, that not everyone in Iraq is a Muslim who wants to kill Americans, some are Christians and love America. I think how we’ve been lied to and I’m sure those countries over there lie to their people respectively. Anyway, back to your comment. The Moon is not Masonic, it’s God’s creation, the Rainbow is not for Gays it’s God’s promise to us. I never knew about Mason’s and the moon, and I still don’t believe my picture is a “graven image.” I don’t worship the moon. The graven image in that picture is the American Flag, which I tagged with “N4TM” and to me that was funny to imagine my little stupid blog name being up there or seen by the millions of people who thought they were watching the moon landing (that’s my humor). I will pray about whether or not to take it down. I don’t think we should stop looking up at the Moon and the Stars because Satan uses those as symbols for his evilness. The rainbow in the sky after a rain is beautiful, I don’t worship it. I hear you, GS and Marion, on the topic but I also think this might be an area where God is working on both of you to show grace and remember the good things in life. A cross is not evil in itself. A gun not lethal unless a man pick it up to kill. I understand the pendulum swinging on these matters, we go from one extreme, example someone in the Occult, to someone so fundamental they don’t look in the mirror anymore because it’s a “fractal” or something like that…then you realize you’re too fundamental and all the joy is sucked out of the air so you let in some fun and then run the risk of going too far left. We need a balance, we need to stay focused on God, the Gospel, Christ, witnessing, etc. I’m not saying I’ve overcome the pendulum swinging going from one extreme to the other but I’m learning that Love covers a multitude of sins and this doesn’t mean they are condoned or encouraged. God has shown tremendous grace and Love for me, both before I knew Him and more so now I believe. Good Solider I thank you for your above comment and I too humbly submit to the Lord and seek your forgiveness for being immediately protective. I do need to be ready for correction, it’s when I feel I’m being bossed around and told what to post and what to have as far as pics are concerned, and then the presumptions; I did loose it and I need to practice more grace as well. I harbor no ill will toward you. Keep in mind I still reserve myself with little trust of people online because I’ve experienced first hand the double minded and back bitters. That is not your fault but I treated you unfairly in that respect assuming you were a “troll” sent in to devour me. You are not an enemy to me. continue to pray for me that God will open my eyes on things and if He convicts me to change that picture He’ll provide another one in it’s place. The original is not that big btw, it was stretched out by WordPress to fit in that slot. anyway…thanks for all the lessons learned.
Mijadedios,
Your more than forgiven Sister and thank you so much for accepting my apology.
Jesus said: “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. “By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” NASB
The truth is still the truth even if it’s worded slightly differently, so yes balance is important.
Paul said: Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; NASB
If I could change one word in the KJV it would be “charity” back into “love” in 1 Corinthians 13.
I love you Sister and I’m glad we have had this time together and that the Lord has softened both our hearts so that we can obey him and love each other as he commands.
God bless
Mija and GS…when I read all the early exchanges, and saw GS’s blog…my heart was grieved and I prayed for you all. I did not write either of you…I prayed for you. I am happy to see the interactions dated 8/6 (today)…I see there is humility, correction, repentance and an effort to mend fences…I pray there is healing. Remember our Lord said that the “wheat and the tares must grow together”…this is why it’s the angel’s jobs to harvest. Certainly you all do a worthy job of exposing the wolves…they are discernible. But when it comes to one another in the body of Christ, we need to be gracious, and take care that we tear not at the wheat in our zeal for truth. When we are not, much reproach is heaped on the name of our glorious Saviour, our own as His people, and our ministry – destroying one’s credibility and ministry. In the public arena (as well as private) much care must be taken. When we think we can discern “wheat from tares” – we are deceived.
Look at Lot…the Scriptures call him “righteous Lot”…can I confess to you…that when I read about Lot…that is NOT my reaction? But the Lord commends him for his faith…in spite of….his many failings…very serious ones, I might add. And truly, how glad I am for that example…it shows the Lord’s goodness and graciousness not only to Lot, but myself as well.
The Scriptures say…”For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.” (Gal. 5:15-16)
It is the enemy who seeks to devour! (1 Peter 5:8)
“Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessings; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing..
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous,, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.” (1 Peter 3:8-16). The whole chapter is actually wonderful.
I know I need the above reminders ALWAYS in my life; praying they bless you as much as they bless me; and let us press on toward the prize of our high calling in Christ Jesus; for His sake and the love of the brethren.
Thank you Marion for your prayers and for the scriptures and your wise counsel.
The post that Good Solider referred to above has been removed completely because I do not support JIDF which is a group that in 2009 I believed was trying to stop anti-semitism and be a voice on Twitter. However, I had later realized they were Anti-Christian, not just against Christians support of Israel but the main tweeter guy truly despised the gospel. And I did try to witness to him. After I realized this I had unfollowed him on Twitter, I forgot about this post, Sorry. I already corrected or clarified that I don’t call unsaved Jews my brethren and this was not good enough for this commentator. The comments that have been sent as “correction” are accusatory in nature every single time and I am growing very weary at this point. If you, my readers, feel that I am in error or are a Masonic, Calvary Chapel, heathen who reads the devils bible NASB, I truly can’t help you. If over the course of the years you don’t recognize that that is not me I don’t know what will. Now the latest is that I call the Jews brethren. Well, the Jews who are saved are, and yes we do worship the same Father don’t we? I don’t know maybe I’m wrong, we as Christians have the Old Testament, and that’s the Torah. I was told by GS to go read the Talmud. Why would I do that? I haven’t read the apocrypha which is what many Christians are doing these days, and I guess I’m not cool because I haven’t read that or the Talmud. I don’t spend the entire length of my day reading every piece of cult literature. I don’t spend the length of my day reading every piece of conspiracy theory on Masons or Jesuits or Illuminati. I actually have a life. I am a mother, a homemaker, I home school my children, I attend fellowship, I cook, clean, go to the market, run my kids around, etc. I am not the all encompassing One Shop Depot on Discernment and I never set out to be. I’m a person who is Saved, redeemed and Loves the Lord with all my heart. I saw years ago that Cable news and even more so Main Stream Media was one sided with telling stories and reporting the news. So I opened a free blog up and did what I thought was shedding light. Through my trials and tribulations with Calvary Chapel and becoming aware of their inconsistencies after no senior pastor wanted to do anything to warn the flock, I took my stupid little blog and started to write stuff on the apostate church as well. In fact, I tried to keep the two subject matter separated in two different blogs. The other never got noticed or got attention so I just started posting it all here. It’s all here. I live out in front of the line when I put my Opinions, my Thoughts, my Concerns out there. It’s so easy to do hit and run comments where you sound great in a short spout and you never look like you make mistakes, but no, I’m truly stupid because I put it out front, over 380 posts on this blog. So there WILL BE ERROR, if you want to read through each one and point out the errors please go for it. Yes, I have been attacked, since I started this blog, last week was a especially filled with them, not just from this post but from others and from people off line who took to emailing me their attacks. I’m not asking for sympathy or empathy. If I’m being “corrected” so that I can grow than I will submit to my Lord and receive the correction. But if I’m being lead out to the slaughter and constantly and persistently attacked in the hopes of me putting an end to this blog, it won’t happen. 1 Peter 4:12-19.
Dear Mija…About the logo thing. I believe you used that in innocence.
The Bible says, “Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.” (Titus 1:5).
**Disclaimer** – the use of that particular verse is not an accusation of any person, of anything…MERELY…that the pure do not see a lot of the evil around them – that those who have “come out” of such things to Christ for salvation might notice, because their minds had been defiled with those things…but NOW they are washed in the precious blood of the Lamb!
Having said that, as God’s people we need to take to heart the Scripture that says,
“Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:” (Exodus 20:4) Might I even say, “graven” on paper and in “cyberspace?”
Why would God give such a command? 1. Because unlike the “pure” who just happily go about life, He knows that not all things ARE pure. 2. That being the case, we would not recognize that those things are representative of Baal worship and all sorts of abominations; the worship and homage done unto devils. 3. To keep us from being erroneously identified with the worshippers of Baal, or part of some abominable “secret society.”
I, myself, used to wear a cross with a pointsettia in the center at “christ-mass” time to represent that “Jesus is the reason for the season.” Since then, to my horrors, I’ve come to understand that “christ-mass” is a pagan holiday that has been yoked to “Christianity” and that Jesus is NOT the reason for the season…and that my “beautiful, meaningful” cross was a ROSACRUCIAN symbol, for pete’s sake!!! (groan)
Obedience to that one commandment alone, would be a safeguard for our lives, and as a result, not cause other brethren (who are in the know) to eye us with suspicion. Basically, those images, logos, whatever, are used in the occult world as “identifiers” and “signatures”…a kind of…”hello, here we are”…
It is ALWAYS best to inquire of our brethren the meaning and intent of their content, and then educate, when needed.
“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.” (2 Tim. 2:24-26)
Jesus said, “But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.” (Luke 6:27-28)
“And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.” (6:31-32)
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.” (Luke 6:35-36)
How much more…our brothers and sisters in Christ; and if we should discover them to be “false” brethren, (and not because we are “looking” to tear the tares out of the field…not our job – remember) still, the same!