Chuck Missler is Amiss.

*Disclaimer: Videos presented on this post are for Examining what Missler is teaching and what/whom he has learned from they are not to be considered endorsements!

Stop at 0:24 seconds! Who is Rabbi “Moses” Cordevaro? Google Results were for Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, a Kabbalist. Here are some hits:

• The renowned Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, head of the Rabbinical Court of Tzfat, wrote a book called Pardes Rimonim in 1549. On page 68, he writes that the secrets of the Torah are revealed in its letters through many means, including “skipping of letters”. Source: http://www.glazerson.com/torahcodeskeptics.htm (emphasis mine link not an endorsement)

•   “One of the greatest of all Kabbalists was Rabbi Moshe Cordovero. He was born in 1522 in Safed, the city that was soon to become famed as a center of Kabbalah. At a young age, he already gained a reputation as an extroardinary genius. Besides his knowledge in Kabbalah, he was a Talmudic scholar and philosopher of the highest rank, and was widely respected in these fields. He was even one of the four to receive the special semichah-ordination from Rabbi Yaakov Beirav in 1538, along with Rabbis Yosef Caro (Cordovero’s teacher in Jewish Law), Moshe of Trani and Yosef Sagis, all of whom were much older and better known than the young prodigy.” Source: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/83771/jewish/Rabbi-Moshe-Cordovero.htm (link not an endorsement)

•   Decoding the Dogma Within the Enigma: The Life, Works, Mystical Piety and SystematicThought of Rabbi Moses Cordoeiro (aka Cordovero;Safed, Israel, 1522-1570) Book by Kabalist Rabbi Moses Cordeiro (Cordevaro) 

•   Rabbi Moses Cordovero’s Introduction to Kabbalah (Or Ne’erav) Book sold on this site: http://www.mysefer.com/product.asp?cookiecheck=yes&P_ID=3993&strPageHistory=related (link not an endorsement)

Chuck Missler and Lambert Dolphin (pictured).

Missler’s video above is on the topic of “Bible Codes” and more specifically “EQUIDISTANT LETTER SEQUENCES.” When I Googled just “Equidistant Letter Sequences” an article written by Lambert Dolphin, Chuck Missler’s old time friend, popped up. Coincidentally the entire article sounds like what Chuck Missler gave in his short video; more importantly Lambert’s article pointed me in the right direction, finding out where Dolphin and Missler get their “ideas” from! Below is an excerpt from one of Mr. Dolphin’s posts:

“Hidden Scientific Codes in Genesis”

“It has become fashionable for contemporary Bible teachers to claim that Genesis is not intended to give a scientific, detailed account of how God created the universe, but that rather it is often said that the Hebrew prose of the opening book of the Bible is painted in broad brush strokes only. However, when one looks at a level below the obvious translation of the text into meaningful words understood as human language, the text of Genesis actually contains an encrypted code revealing the geometry of time and space, patterns for all living things, and the roots of all every alphabet and every language known to man!

Some years ago a Jewish scholar, Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation noticed that the ordered arrangement of the Hebrew letters of Genesis 1:1 was not random. If 27 letters of the Hebrew alphabet were assigned a numerical value from 1 to 27 (with Aleph being counted as a “0”) then Genesis 1:1 (and all the subsequent text thus far examined) can be easily decoded into patterns using a counting base of 3. (emphasis added)

It should be noted that Tenen’s work is not the same thing as Biblical numerology—where numbers occurring in the text of the Bible (such as 3, 4, 6, 12, 40, etc.) can be seen to have symbolic meaning. Likewise Tenen is not dealing with what is usually thought of as esoteric Jewish Kabalistic mysticism, or Christian mysticism, in his analysis. What he has discovered is that the text of the Bible is actually an incredible computer code with built-in error correction features and levels of complexity. These findings taken all by themselves apart from faith or religious belief system immediately suggest the Bible is indeed much more than the inspired words of religious writers, but must in fact be the very Word of God.

Much wild and fanciful material has been written on the so called “Bible codes” in recent years–and most of it is either erroneous or at best useless. However the actual hidden structures in the Bible are really there and attest eloquently to the Divine Authorship of our Bibles. The definitive book on this subject is The Cosmic Codes, by Chuck Missler. It is extremely thorough and carefully written.” Source: Lambert Dolphin http://www.ldolphin.org/Introgen.html (not an endorsement. Dolphin’s article links to K-House)

N4TM- In the above excerpt Dolphin is misleading the reader. He says “Jewish Scholar” Stan Tenen, Stan Tenen is a Kabbalist fair and square. I have posted below Stan Tenen’s own video where he gives the exact explanation for ELS’s and it sounds exactly like what Missler explained. Another aspect where Dolphin distorts the truth is when he states that Tenen is “not” dealing with Kabbalistic mysticism, but according to Tenen’s own words that is exactly what he’s done. Make sure to watch the whole  3 parts of Tenen’s videos, it’s thirty minutes but if you watch and listen with discernment it explains a lot about him, and he is who Lambert and Missler are getting their information from! Picture of Lambert Dolphin “at his computerized Ouija board” was taken from his own site! Below is one more excerpt from another one of Dolphin’s posts:

“Editors Note: I have long been interested in the possibility of hidden codes in the Hebrew and Greek texts of the Bible. Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation has been doing remarkable, and I believe meaningful, computer analysis of Genesis from which he has gleaned what would appear to be some amazing geometrical properties of the universe. Recently interest in Torah Codes has mushroomed both among Christians such as Grant Jeffrey, numerous groups of Torah scholars in Israel, and others, for instance The Official Torah Codes Page .

I welcome Uri Marcus’ article which helps bring balance and reason to this discussion since many extravagant claims are being made. Lambert Dolphin, February 22, 1997. Thanks to Grant Jeffrey and Yacob Rambsel also for their response at the end of this article.” Source: Lambert Dolphin http://www.ldolphin.org/torahcodes.html (not an endorsement, the links were hypertext in his original post and are also not endorsed by N4TM)

Missler’s Video above has more details in it that are red flags but I am not going to expound on everything in this post.

Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation:

Stan Tenen read what? Kabbalah books. He also read every other type of Mystical literature. In this video he doesn’t mention reading the New Testament. I don’t want to waste too much time researching Mr. Tenen, but you get the point with this thirty minute video don’t you? Do you know, or can you see the vanity, the divination being practiced? Can you discern the symbols he uses, and that he ultimately says that all religions are true (part 3 video)?

Stan Tenen is just one Kabbalist where Missler and Lambert are getting their information. They are basing their “biblical” knowledge and discernment based of mystics, rabbi’s who are not converted to believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah, and yet they are “using” their bible decoding system? What is the purpose here? Is Missler trying to encode the listener and students he has? I never heard of Kabbalah until I listened to a Chuck Missler CD on “exposing Kabbalah.” I never paid any attention to Quantum physics until I heard Mr. Missler allude to it at nausea in his teachings.

Someone asked me in the comment section on a previous post, Slight of hand: False Prophet Chuck Missler still on Speaker Schedule with other Calvary Chapel Discerners, “You failed to say what the heresy was. He s the best Bible scholar l know on tv or internet. In fact possibly one of the very few l would call a scholar on tv. Please do let me know what heresy you re talking about.” I told this commenter that I was not ignoring her comment but rather I was praying about whether or not to do a separate post on Missler’s heresy.

Hindsight is 20/20

It was not until I completely left Calvary Chapel that I recognized the error that seems so clear to me now. Missler’s air of expertise and his vast vocabulary of areas we the common people have little knowledge of can be impressive and also deceptive. Since I don’t know the first thing about “M-theory” when Missler spoke of it and I had only known him from Calvary Chapel and Prophesy Conferences held in Churches or sponsored by churches held in conference centers, one assumed it was biblical or at least that Missler knew what he is talking about. I sought to explain how Missler is Amiss, and for me it doesn’t take much to come to this conclusion. This video is not how I learned about Missler being false it’s a demonstration and an example of his false teachings. Start examining what he’s teaching. I watch a video, such as the one at the beginning of this post, I stop and ask a question, Who is Missler referring to? I looked him up (Rabbi Moshe Cordovero), the guy is a Kabbalist! Then I continue to hear the rest of the video, he’s talking about ELS’s; What is that I ask myself, and I Googled it. I see Lambert Dolphin has written on the topic. From previous research on Missler I have come to know how lengthy Dolphin’s relationship with Missler is. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dolphin is one of Missler’s ghost writers. I read Dolphin’s article, he keeps referring to Stan Tenen, who’s that guy? Stan Tenen is a Kabbalist. Once I watched the full 30 minute video “Frist light” by Stan Tenen it sounded exactly like what Chuck Missler spoke on in the video on ELS’s. It doesn’t take much more than that for me to realize that Mr. Missler is learning from Kabbalists and he’s rewriting their teachings and putting a “Christianese” flair on it and selling it off as though he has some inside tract on decoding the bible. I could go a step further and ask is Missler encoding his subjects while he’s presumably teaching about ‘decoding’ the Bible? On another video I’ve seen of Missler, with Sid Roth on “It’s Supernatural,”  Missler is spewing his “Aliens are Demons, fallen Angels, ie, Nephilim,” (Not an Endorsement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54DRUR57Oos) I discerned that he’s taking scripture out of context and putting his own “theory” on it. Or is it his theory? Maybe his theory on Demons being UFO’s came from his friends Grant Jeffery and/or Tom Horn who study the paranormal. I’ve reported on Missler’s CNP connections, his ties to Tim LaHaye, his SwanSat business, attempting to create a single currency for Africa via the Auric, not to mention his false prophesy of the Y2K computer malfunction that never happened that is public knowledge. If you look at Chuck Missler and test his teachings against scripture and not the other way around it will not be long before Scripture tells you his teaching are false. What he’s doing by quoting Enoch (Apocrypha & non-canonized) and quoting Kabbalah and trying to use Mystical and Extra-Biblical teachings to “illuminate” the scriptures is backwards and it’s called Divination.

divination

DIVINATION, n. L., to foretell. See Divine.

1. The act of divining; a foretelling future events, or discovering things secret or obscure, by the aid of superior beings, or by other than human means. The ancient heathen philosophers divided divination into two kinds, natural and artificial. Natural divination was supposed to be effected by a kind of inspiration or divine afflatus; artificial divination was effected by certain rites, experiments or observations, as by sacrifices, cakes, flour, wine, observation of entrails, flight of birds, lots, verses, omens, position of the stars, &c.

2. Conjectural presage; prediction.

Leviticus 19: 31

31 ‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.

Deuteronomy 18:10

10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,

2 Kings 17:17

17 And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger.

Leviticus 20:6-7

‘And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God.

My most favorite scripture that helps me with this sort of discernment:

“If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage, to entice you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall put away the evil from your midst.” Deuteronomy 13:1-5

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73 comments

  1. Excellent reporting and discerning. Your description on “how” you do your research, is exactly how I carry out mine. Anytime time someone quotes someone, or utilizes others teachings, I always research the person being used, or supported up.
    So many young believers (newbie’s) are looking up to the “celebrity” leaders, teachers and are being sucked into their falsehood, and lies. These so-called teachers, prophets, spiritual leaders will have to give an account to the Living God, and that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Many of them have never known the Lord, and are false believers, and according to scriptures they are already condemned.
    We must walk with a fearful respect towards our Lord and His Righteousness, and not desire to be many “teachers”.
    The Lord bless you for your contending for the faith.

    1. Hello Cal4u…you said above you did research, so I clicked on your “name” above and was taken to your site…read a few articles…

      Am very happy to have run across your article about Chick-fil-a…I knew there was “something” wrong there…suspicious of anything promoted as “Christian”…and you put together a well researched article. Thank you for that…I will be passing it on.

      Although using your site, it does not constitute an endorsement of any person, group, “ministry” or philosophy)…sorry Cal4u…just a necessary disclaimer…not personal…it’s how I treat all sites.

      Have a great day!

      1. @Marion, thanks for dropping by blog and glad you found that the Chick-fil-A article helpful. And I am learning I need to utilize a “disclaimer” to “sites” I have not fully checked out. But the ones I have not found a major issue with, I will not place a disclaimer upon. It has to be some Major Biblical Issue that will get that kind of warning from me, but those types I don’t run across too often. If a blog, like the ones I mentioned on my blog, are totally hypocritical, I will warn totally.
        But if there is something you would like to question concerning issues that is on my blog please do.
        The Lord bless you and keep you!

      2. Cal…I use disclaimers on EVERYTHING…because of this one thing…
        that which is true and trustworthy today, may not be so tomorrow.

  2. Andrea, this was excellent!!

    Pride (Obadiah 1:3) and trust in man (Jer 17:5) is what “locks in” those who follow Chuck Missler & refuse to examine the evidence. Missler has the “impressive resume” that “blinded Christians” love to lift up and try to impress unbelievers with. Such foolishness.

    Here is something from 2002 when Missler describes how three Messianic rabbis traveled in April of 1994 from Tacoma, WA to Idaho to deliver the message to Missler that a “major revival in the United States” was going to begin in the Pacific Northwest.

    http://www.khouse.org/articles/2002/399

    The word of God speaks of a “falling away” in the last days, not revivals.

    Why would Missler move to New Zealand and miss the “major revival” in the Pacific Northwest?

    18+ years have “ticked by” since the three rabbis.

    The “unfruitful works of darkness” are so abundant in Missler, how “Christians” are so blinded that follow him reveals the satanic grip on their lives.

    Missler truly is one of Satan’s “ministers of righteousness” in the “greatest sense” –

    2 Corinthians 11:14-15 – “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

    1. Well, he sounds like another Missler/Horn. I didn’t go to that link you posted, I giggled him first. he had another book called facade. He’s promoting the idea aliens are demons it sounds like. Next….

      1. Mike Heiser endorses and teaches Dave Flynn’s nonsense ” Temple at the Center of Time” that is published by Tom Horn. Which is basically New Age garbage about 2012 and the alignment of our sun with the center of the galaxy on December 21st 20012. That stuff is what I believed before I got saved as a New Age Seeker so don’t be fool by New Agers in sheep’s clothing. Just google Mike Heiser ancient of days conference and what those videos in one of the he openly endorse Dave Flynn and quotes his work.

  3. No. He’s not. Very unlike those two actually. Not even close. You would have to read his stuff to see what he is about. He’s been accused of that actually, but not by people who have actually read his work.

    1. He’s actually smart, I get that. He’s the antithesis but he’s still part of the deception. He may “expose” Bible Codes as fake but then he introduces aliens are demons.

      1. You’ve never read him. No, he does not present aliens as demons. Again, it’s easy to make assumptions based on titles or how other blogs group people, but sometimes, those assumptions are very wrong. It would be like throwing Charles Spurgeon with John Wesley just because they both teach that there salvation comes from Christ. But if you look deeper, the two could not be further apart.

      2. Have you researched him, tested all here’s said? You’re right I have not read him, I don’t want to. That is my whole point here, people look to these “experts” often at the cost of forsaking the per of the Holy Spirit who is able to teach. There are always going to be authors, researchers, experts, playing the game. I’m specific to my readers, test these false teachers with the Word. Sending then to another “teacher” after exposing one is not what I’m about.

  4. I don’t want to take this post into a direction it’s not meant to go, but I keep thinking about the aliens are demons idea that was spoken about in another post. Is there somewhere you can point me to to try to figure this out? Is there really such a thing as an alien? I’m wondering if the “aliens are demons” thing that Missler writes about is simply to get us to believe that there are aliens. In other words, when he gives his opinion about what aliens are, there is no longer a question about whether aliens exist or not, but just the question ” what are they.”

    PS: I won’t make this a running thread.

  5. Yes. I have read lots and lots from Heiser. He is the one with probably the most influence in getting me out of this UFO conspiracy stuff that Missler got me in to. Infact, it was Missler that lead me to Marzulli and Marzulli that lead me to Horn…I would say I have spent over a thousand…maybe more hours researching him (Heiser). Unfortunately, the conspiracy crowd likes Heiser, but he’s really not out there enough for them. He’s of the reformed tradition, believes in the authority of scripture, not charismatic, not a conspiracy theorist, does not read commentary from preachers…reads his bible in the original language and is the first to say that we are all influenced way more than we know by tradition. He says he picks his battles and holds his tongue when he needs to. He will speak on whatever show asks him, doesn’t really concern himself with what people have to say about him. he doesn’t sugar coat his beliefs to mesh with everyone else…but is also pretty darn humble for a scholar…at least IMO…and I’ve been around plenty of scholars.

    He has excellent work in regards to jewish culture, jewish literature, jewish religion, pagan religions of the time, of course geneis 6 is what everyone focues on…infact, he has anothr blog that addresses the nonsense of UFO religions….which is such a small amount of his work…but very very good. He has fantastic work on the trinity and showing that using the OT when witnessing to a Jew…so much work this man has done…and he gets lumped with the likes of Horn and Missler. Very sad. I don’t think Horn even cares about finding Jesus througout scripture as the Name, the Word of the Lord, the Presence etc…but Mike does.

    I do not follow any man. But when a fellow believer has something to say, and it is reasoned thought, based on scripture…taken in tandem with the attitude of that person, I will hear the matter. I’ve learned that it’s not wise to surround yourself with people who just agree with you. At the time, I would have said, no way…Missler is right, Heiser is just confused. I started in with Missler in 1997…dumped him after years and years. In 2007, I was finished after hearing the “other side” of the matter.

    All I’m saying here is read him, or don’t. That is most definitely your choice. Just don’t assume that you know if you don’t. Also, don’t assume that there are not others out there who were looking at the stuff that you just posted….years ago (2008 for me)…who are also given the Holy Spirit who guides. As far as sending people to another teacher…be careful as you say that. You yourself, through this blog are acting as a teacher…with opinions. Is it not right that I send someone to you if they want to know a little more about a certain topic?Mike is a professor, he teaches classes. That is his gift. We can’t assume that every one has some sinister agenda. Otherwise, we would have to assume that you and I do as well…when you say…”you;re right and I don’t want to” what you are saying is that you will make a decision before you hear the matter.

    1. I’m not a teacher. I don’t think of myself as one. You then should understand why I wouldn’t want to go to the next teacher since you say you have done that route. I never said people have to agree with me, I don’t think I’ve met one person who agrees with me on everything. I personally don’t want to spend time reading Heiser, is that wrong? Now I’m unteachable? I can have an opinion just as much as you.

  6. Mijadedios, I never said you were unteachable. I never said it was wrong that you don’t want to read Heiser. I never said you could not have an opinion. I never said you think everyone has to agree with you. What I said was that you should not speak about nor assume when you haven’t read is all. My encouragement was to hear the matter before coming to a conclusion and to give other people the benefit of the doubt until you, yourself can prove otherwise. Nothing more, nothing less was intended by my comment in which you asked me if I had myself tested him…to which I replied.

    I commented with a link that gives solid information on why the Bible Codes are a myth. I apologize if I thought it might be helpful to some of your readers. My mistake.

    At any rate, this conversation has run it’s course. Be blessed in your studies.

  7. Hi Mija…GREAT article!
    I noticed in the Missler video he referred to “the high frequency of the letters”…now THERE’S a biblical idea…not!

    Stan above, talks about the “geometry of time and space.” These are the philosophies the “knowledge” of the “mystery religions” and “secret societies.” We NEVER, as you know, get Biblical understanding from the occult world and extra-biblical sources! Just as an extra…since the “eyes are the window of the soul”, did you notice Stan’s? WOW!

    “Jesus answered him, I spake openly in the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said NOTHING.” (John 18:20) (emphasis mine)

    Consulting Kabbalists…to “understand” and “explain” the Bible?…Who know not the things of the Spirit? REALLY??
    I guess Missler, et al, don’t have Bibles which contain 1 Cor. 2:10-16…

    BTW…your link to “The Official Torah” page is already gone! Boy those wolves work fast to cover their tracks…don’t they? They must have a team working round the clock, just to cover over what’s being revealed, re-work websites, etc.

    How we all ought beware of those who are “held up” by men as godly, scholars, etc. ! Do you know who the godly are…those God reveals to us in the pages of Scripture (some we wouldn’t be prone to think of as “righteous”, yet pronounced so because of their faith, and others of whom we would think “of course”)…that pronouncement cannot be made of any man since the canon of Scripture was closed…since God’s verdict has not yet been heard pertaining to “modern” man. All I can to them is “repent” or the consequence will be…”woe unto you!”

    1. Pro 21:10 The soul of the wicked desireth evil: his neighbour findeth no favour in his eyes.

      I just watched those 3 video’s and yes Marion his eye’s are black and evil.

      So he found out something very interesting about the Hebrew alphabet but failed to understand that we already knew it was written by the hand of God by faith. Stan is climbing up another way and as such he is thief and a robber.

      Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

      I never studied Kabala much before I got saved but it would be consider depending on how you use it as ether the left hand path or the right hand path of western magik. So everything Stan Tenen is teaching and practicing is forbidden knowledge and an abomination to God, it is witchcraft plan and simple.

      2Ch 34:1-5 Josiah was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem one and thirty years. And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the ways of David his father, and declined neither to the right hand, nor to the left. For in the eighth year of his reign, while he was yet young, he began to seek after the God of David his father: and in the twelfth year he began to purge Judah and Jerusalem from the high places, and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images. And they brake down the altars of Baalim in his presence; and the images, that were on high above them, he cut down; and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images, he brake in pieces, and made dust of them, and strowed it upon the graves of them that had sacrificed unto them. And he burnt the bones of the priests upon their altars, and cleansed Judah and Jerusalem.

      “and declined neither to the right hand, nor to the left”

      We must walk in the ways of David and Josiah after Jesus Christ who they also followed by faith and not after hidden knowledge.

      It is worth mentioning that Chuck Misslers K-House logo (11-Lodge) is that very same symbol that Stan is showing except coming out of a book, it is also used by Freemasons and Gnostic to represent the light of knowledge that God has forbidding man from attaining but the good god in there view Satan/Lucifer gave it to man thus freeing them from ignorance. Chuck Missler is a closet Luciferian in my view that teaches forbidden hidden knowledge and is tempting Christian into researching Kabala and mystical meditations and practices by promoting Kabalistic teachings to his followers. No wounder he endorse Calvary Chapel’s found Chuck Smith who used Lonnie Frisbee who called himself a Catholic Mystic to get his movement off the ground.

      I read many books by Catholic mystics and had many so called mystical experiences before the Lord saved me and those books and teachings are all leading people into the false light of Lucifer and not after Jesus Christ.

      Eph 5:12-114 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

      Just a simple child like faith and a basic reading of the text is all we need and all this hidden knowledge and deeper truths they say are contained in the bible are being used by people like Stan to promote a New Age One World Religion. The very thing that Missler says he is against he is yoked with everywhere you look at the man be it his teaching or his business ventures.

      The Lord will deal with them on the last day.

  8. Hi Dawn,

    Just to let you know I’ve not read his books and don’t intent to read them. I have watched most of the video’s I could find on him on the internet and while I don’t think he is as wacky as Tom Horn and Missler I do have my concerns about lots of his teachings especially his endorsement of Dave Flynn’s work at the ancient of Days Conference. He also is very proud of his own linguistic skills and uses them to re-translate the bible all over the place to suit his own thinking which is just one of many red flags I have noticed about him. Just watch this video and you will see that he teaches exactly what Missler and the rest of them teach about Nephilm and fallen Angels.

    http://sureynot.com/v/189/aod-2004-michael-s-heiser,-genesis-6-hybridization.html

    1. Hi Good Soldier.

      Mike Heiser says that he agrees with David Flynn that the alien phenomenom has a spiritual component to it…and so that means he endorses Flynn’s book that came out years after?

      Mike Heiser also believes that procession (which Flynn spoke about as it pertains to gnostic beliefs and calanders and the ancient world) might be something to think about as far as how the ancient Israelites believed, when it comes to statements in Genesis about the stars and stuff being for people to tell the times and says he’s thinking about it as it pertains to the wheel that Ezekiel saw in a vision. In his Ezekiel wheel piece, he is refuting the idea that Ezekiel saw a UFO. This is a possible idea of what he saw. I didn’t take that as saying that he agrees with a book that came out years later, date setting, gnosticism, hidden knowledge, numerology for all intents and purposes, eschatology, conspiracy, crop circles, the media, the alien antichrist and the many other things that David Flynn believed.

      I personally don’t agree with Heiser’s views on election and predestination, but others would say he is right on.

      1. Dave’s book may have come out years later but he did a presentation of his beliefs in 2003 at AOD and he also spoke before Mike at AOD 2004 so Mike was in serious error when giving him any credence what so ever.

        The video I post in my comments above is Mike promoting his theory’s based on Jewish fables and Canaanite mythology and mixing it in with Dave Flynn’s theory’s on procession that he has picked up from the new age movement.

        Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
        Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

        The Son’s of God were from Seth’s lineage and the daughters of men were from Cain’s lineage in my view and yes there was giant in the earth in those days as there is today.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_the_Giant

        Now people like Steve Quayle would tell us that men like Andre the Giant and many many others have Nephalim DNA. They tell use that the reason the flood happened was because of hybridization and by say such a thing make God a liar when he said it was because of mans sin. So why is there Giants again after the flood, in there view it must been because the Fallen Angels came down again and made more Nephalim. But the scriptures don’t make mention of that happening so I don’t buy it. The first assumption was in error to begin with.

        One of the major proofs that is used to sell the giant theory is the building of the pyramids and other massive monuments. But new research has shown that the pyramids are made from a form of ancient stone concert. (I will try and find the link I think it was a french institutes web site, but I can remember if I bookmarked the web site)

        Mike Heiser researches Jewish Fables and Canaanite Mythology then applies them to his interpretation of the Word of God.

        He is in great error and as such I believe him to be a false teacher. He does the same with his two powers in heaven stuff, “Jewish sources”. He uses Jewish interpretation from before the 2nd century to show that they believed in two powers in heaven and then adds a 3 power proving in his view the Catholic pagan doctrine of the Holy Trinity correct. I know it also commonly held by most daughters of Roman ie Protestants that the doctrine of the Trinity is true but I don’t hold to the notion of 3 persons.

        Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

        So say the Scripture.

        Who is Jesus? He is The LORD and he is God and he is one LORD.

        1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

        God was manifest in the flesh.

        So say the Scriptures.

        If Mike is wants to preach the gospel to Jew he need not prove 3 powers in heaven by pointing to Jewish fables he should just repent from attempting to prove Catholic Doctrines and simply believe Jesus when he said:

        Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

        So say the Scriptures.

        I hope this helps and I hope you can see your way out of following Mike Heiser’s teachings and Catholic creeds. At first when I found his video’s I thought he was great but the Holy Spirit showed me something else entirely when studying the Bible after I decided to only listen to him and not the teachings of men.

        Pray about it and ask the Lord to show you and don’t take my word for it ether.

      2. Good job on the recon on Heiser and Flynn. I don’t know who Flynn is, but it didn’t take much for me to discern Heiser. I guess Dawn thought I was being judgmental and presumptuous, but once you’ve seen the MO of these guys it gets easier to call them with experience. The Gospel is free, that’s why you rarely hear these experts and speakers ever give it. They are out to sell a book, a DVD, and their most important weapon deception to itching ears. (Speaking of false prophets here in general) I agree with Jeremy W., the real issue is why are these guys being “allowed” to do so. How can these fellow “discerners” not recognize a guy like Missler who is pumping out false doctrines, interpreting the scripture via Kabbalah, and purposely deceiving the flock. Every astute “teacher/researcher/author/expositor/Pastor/evangelist/missionary” who’s ever endorsed Missler has a ton of explaining to do (I’d say repenting). Where are the great Discernment Ministries at with this Missler issue? Oh yeah, they’re busy in their silence because their authors and speakers have engagements booked for the year….

    2. Ah, Good Soldier…so Michal Heiser is carried by sure Y not …interesting…I refer all readers to Good Soldier’s blog, where he exposes the “Spiritual Conspiracy” of that vehicle while exposing another wolf in sheep’s clothing. I’m not sure that sure Y not would be carrying any true Christians on their site, since they have an agenda…only well-trained “pretenders.” You really do need to see it for yourself…you too, DawnMarie…

      http://goodsoldierofjesuschrist.blogspot.ie/2012/07/mike-hoggard-and-his-spiritual.html

      (again, use of any site is not an endorsement of any person, group, “ministry” or philosophy…information only)

      “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
      And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart fromme, ye that work iniquity.” (Matt. 7:22-23)

      1. hey Marion, I found this in my spam box. I guess you did it twice so I only posted one. (**Note to readers: A blog link, video, etc does not constitute as an endorsement by N4TM, they are posted for information freedom) :-)

      2. Thanks Marion,

        I saw that as well but didn’t want to post my blog hear as I’m not trying to get readers by commenting on this blog. I really just hope I can add something that might help and only jumped into the conversation because I have done some looking into Heiser. Yes use your own discernment I’m a sinner and get things wrong don’t trust me ether do your own thinking. The blog about Sure Y Not & Mike Hoggard is one of my most read blogs and personal I think anyone who posts video’s on that site I would question but I’m sure it wasn’t Mr Heiser that posted that video as the user that posted it was called End Game Now. So I will let Mr Heiser off that hook and give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

      3. Hey you’ve never “linked bombed” here so no worries. It was Marion telling Cal 4. I don’t have a link or blogroll because I never follow any one in particular so closely as to endorse.

  9. Good catch Mijadedios on the Rabbi Moses Cordevaro. These “teachers” in a certain “movement” are always introducing teachings, and referencing “teachers” from the Kabbalah.

    Doing just a little bit of research into this area horrified me. I found out it is clearly delving into the occult and has ties to freemasonry.

    Why would any movement or pastor allow kabbalah teachings to the innocent sheep sitting in the pews? What is the real reason these “teachers” go on speaking tours? Is it just simply for a paycheck?

    I do not believe it is simply about money. The last year of research I have come to believe it is much more nefarious then I would of imagined. Upon that realization many other things have finally begun to fall into place.

    Mijadedios thank you for your time in research and putting up the articles.

    May God Bless Y’all,
    Jeremy W.

  10. Jeremy, I have been wondering the same thing that you mention above. Why would pastors allow bad teaching to their flock. Please tell me what realization you have come to, and what other things have fallen into place.

    Thank you

  11. How does one find the Official Torah site?

    And, Jeremy, I have been wondering something else that you may have some insight into> Why would someone like Lonnie Frisbee, who so obviously is not a true believer, lead people to a saving knowledge of Christ and also start so many fellowships where that is happening?

    1. It’s the word of God that saves, not the proclaimers of the word.

      Lonnie Frisbee took LSD and proclaimed the word of God.

      Lonnie practiced witchcraft = another spirit

      The word of God won’t return void = Holy Spirt

      People getting saved from someone proclaiming the word of God is NOT validation of the proclaimer.

      1. Exactly- the person doesn’t save, the True word of God, the Holy Spirit convicting, the shed blood of Christ redeems, not the fallible man or false prophet. It’s God who calls. amen!

      2. Actually, I understand that part of the picture. The question is actually more about the motives of the deceiver, Satan, who seems to be behind the whole thing. It is most obvious in Lonnie Frisbee’s case, but other evangelists go around saving in the name of Jesus, all the while working for the devil. It’s a difficult question to get across. In other words, if an evil person is serving Satan, why would Satan have him going around trying to lead as many people to Christ as possible? So in a way the question is not about the end product, i.e. people getting saved, but only to the extent that Satan does not want people getting saved. And Satan knows as well as we do that the word of God won’t return void. So why does he have so many ministers out there putting the word of God out there? That’s the part I don’t get.

      3. It just so happens that I got saved while studying the Word of God verse by verse watching Chuck Missler teach it on youtube so I couldn’t agree more with what you are saying. It didn’t take long for the Holy Spirit to show me he was a false teacher, it was many more months later before I ever found out anyone had done an expose on him. The same thing happened with Calvary Chapel, I had never heard of Lonnie Frisbee but still the Lord showed me that there was another spirit working in Calvary Chapel. I e-mailed the Senior Pastor and told him he was effeminate and he was letting a Jezebel spirit into his Church. It was only after this that I found out about Lonnie Frisbee’s homosexual anointing that run’s through CC.

      4. Absolutely!!!!! AMEN!!! That is the one thing that makes me so upset when you make a stand against false teachers, leaders, their followers always make the comment:”look how many people are lead to Jesus through them”, they use that to justify their so-called “ministry”! Yes, a couple may come to meet the real Jesus through the words spoken, because that is the Sovereignty of God, but how many are lead to the false Jesus they represent. This makes me sick to the core!

  12. Yes, Jeremy…the slaughter of the sheep…and the development of a great delusion…we must all “watch and pray”…

    “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Col 2:8)

    1. Helpfull reading the info. at this site and some others. Open question, have any of
      you read the online book ” Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing” at The New Jerusalem’s blog? If so whats your take on the info. presented? Maybe comments on the gaints
      that are mentioned in one of the chapters. ( To make some sort of connection to this thread) As you might see I am a novice at commenting to this sort of venue. I hope I am not going out side the bounds of this blogsite’s reply context, sorry if I
      have. Would like to hear what you think. Thanks for all your time and effort you
      sisters and brothers in The Lord Jesus Christ, who love the truth.
      onesimus

      1. This comment is outside the topic of this post on Chuck Missler. Are you asking for feedback on your book? Is that book yours? Do you run murkynewsblogspot and newjerusalemchronicle.blogspot? If you run those blogs you’re not necessarily “new” to commenting. What’s up with your username, “P-Crack-a-toa” is that supposed to be humor? If you’re trying to get people over to your blog to read your book for feedback than this comment you left would be considered, “fishing” that means you’re looking to get people over there to your sites and it’s bad form most of all. If you have input on this blog post, on the topic in general, or a question that would be appropriate. As far as the site, New Jerusalem chronicle, you list a mixture of links on the right side bar, some are considered (by me only) as controlled opposition like Global Research and Alex Jones, maybe a couple others who like to play cover up for their friends who get exposed or just remain silent on exposing false teachers like Chuck Missler. To each his own though and in due time you’ll learn more and discover more.

    2. Marion, do you think the teachings of Missler, i.e. aliens are demons, are preparing the way for the great delusion?

      1. Hi Georgia,

        I know you didn’t ask me to answer so please excuse me for jumping into it. I have been researching the topic of aliens for years and I now believe there are no aliens what so ever, it is all demonic apparitions. If someone call’s on the name of Jesus while being abducted they will wake up in there bed. There is also a massive psychological operation being implanted in peoples brains for decades that Alien life is real. Have you come across the disclosure project with Steven Greer showing supposedly top military people giving a press conference saying they had encountered UFO’s? Well it turns out that Mr Greer is an actor along with the rest of the cast at the press conference. Check out the 3 parts of this documentary The Truth Exposed if you want to know how fake what you see on TV and the internet really is.

        They may just pull off a fake alien landing and tell us Christ has returned from the clouds. I do believe they have anti gravitational flying ships but they didn’t get the technology from crashed ships in Roswell the got it from channeling Devils who are much more intelligent than us. The Roswell Landing was faked as a Satanic occult ritual mind control operation and that why Dave Flynn and people like him can see all sorts of occult patterns in the 19.47 stuff they bark on about. But they fail to see that they are setting up there brother and sister for a great delusion. As I said before the Nephilim propaganda stuff that the modern church is being fed (above in my earlier comments) is all based and a faulty assumption and the reading a apocryphal texts in the first place.

        If you ever hear a voice in your head telling up that he is “the Christ” or you see what look like an alien invasion or anything like that don’t believe it. It’s more than likely holograms or Demonic apparition or US black ops aggravation plans. It might sound strange to you but I don’t believe any planes hit the world trade towers, it was holograms projected by a guided missile.

  13. I was just thinking about the phrase “deceiving and being deceived” with respect to the subject at hand. Here’s a link that has the verse as it is in many versions, and at the bottom it has several commentaries on it.
    http://bible.cc/2_timothy/3-13.htm
    Something interesting from one of the commentaries described “evil men” as wicked men under the form of “godliness”.
    Another commentary made the point that some deceivers are truly deceived, but some aren’t. The ones that aren’t, the author states, most likely think they can get away with it.

  14. Georgia, may I kindly suggest to read John chapter 10 a few times. Read about the shepherd, wolf and hirelings. Let the parable Jesus spoke really sink in. Get yourself a clear visual of what the ancient sheepfold literally looked like. In ancient times the shepherds would sit in the opening of the sheepfold and literally become the gate thus protecting the sheep. This might make more sense when Jesus says he IS THE DOOR as well as being The Good Shepherd. This may even give more insight to John 14:6

    John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except THROUGH me. (emp. mine)

    (Remember it’s a narrow gate Jesus spoke of in Matt.7, not a wide gate that Billy Graham would try and sell you)

    Those who allow wolves in to take their pulpits are not shepherds, no matter what they claim. The question you have to ask yourself is: Are they wolves themselves and part of the pack? Or are they hirelings for allowing these wolves free reign on the unsuspecting sheep?

    God Bless Y’all,
    Jeremy W.

    1. Mijadedios, thanks for your reply. Sorry for my “bad form”. “Wolves” is not
      my book and I have no connection to any blogsite.( I do read a few) P. Krakatoa
      is just a play on words of my last name, no humor intended. Should have picked
      a better one. I understand about keeping on the topic, I have a similar background
      with CC and used to listen to Mr. Missler, hence my interest on these topics.
      Sorry for any misunderstanding. Thanks again for all you sisters and brothers
      that love the truth. Onesimus

      1. Just as I posted my above comment on P Krakatoa I scroll down and find this post! Well…this helps a bit…I think…well…maybe…
        From P Krakatoa to onesimus…is that like aka…aka…aka?
        I must be slow…and will say no more because the main topic of the original post here is very informative with no play on words…or charactor of the one posting.
        Good job Mija…

  15. To Georgia –

    You stated “…if an evil person is serving Satan, why would Satan have him going around trying to lead as many people to Christ as possible? ”

    Answer – To trust men rather than God.

    The apostate church TRUSTS MEN, not God.

    They may say they “believe in Jesus”, pray & read the Bible, but their trust is in men.

    It’s clear to see when people like myself and others present hard, solid, documented evidence exposing the guys they follow and they either refuse to even look at it (even to try to prove us wrong) or they “just can’t believe” their guy would be doing whatever.

    The word of God refers to these people in Romans 16:18 as “the simple” (Greek meaning – fearing no evil from others, distrusting no one).

    Our Lord Jesus commands us to be “wise as serpents” in Matthew 10:16 –

    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”

    This planet is under Satan’s control, most of the world’s population is under Satan’s power, we as those who are truly trusting in the shed blood of Jesus Christ to the point of death are “behind enemy lines” on this planet.

    Satan is all about men trusting men, not our Lord. This society is based on trusting men

    Jeremiah 17:5 – ” Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.”

    Men who trust men are cursed.

    We can have confidence in one’s obedience to the word (Philemon 21), but trust is for God only.

    Jesus told us the ONLY way to love Him (John 14:15)

    We have been given grace to obey/love Him (Romans 1:5)

    Obedience brings the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:32)

    Obedience is one of the two marks of the remnant (Revelation 12:17)

    It’s ALL about trusting the Lord completely (unto death) and loving Him through obedience.

    The apostate church in America is about lifting men, adapting to a satanic culture through lifestyle, and trusting men.

    That’s why there will will be many who thought they were Christians in Matthew 7:21-23 but were actually not. “I never knew you”

    The Lord knows those who trust Him (Nahum 1:7).

    Satan wants men to trust men.

  16. Thank you to Jeremy, William, and Good Soldier for you input.
    @Good Soldier, I watched the video that you posted, and it’s the strangest thing I’ve seen in a long time. I watched a few of his other videos, and it’s almost just too wild. You have checked this guy out, right? I just don’t even know what to think. Maybe you felt the same way when you first watched his videos. Wow, what can you believe and who can you trust.
    Do you have any idea why things like Sandusky or Gabby Gifford are being faked? Why? keeps running through my head. Strange. Too strange.
    I also wonder why some stuff is let out. For example his video about HAARP. His info comes from an archived HAARP site. That doesn’t make sense, because if the government didn’t want us to know about HAARP for sure the site would be taken down. I think there’s something more to this than simple disclosure.

    1. Georgia…I did respond to you above, it showed up just above your 5:16 post, since I didn’t address it to you, folks may have thought I was resonding to Good Soldier.

      I watched the video also, it’s on a masonic site…is any of it true?…don’t know…something think about…

      Because of the deception in the world and in the church,
      I have come to the conclusion, that the only thing we can believe and trust is the Word of God alone. We will ALWAYS know the truth and where it can be found, when we are unable to discern what the truth is all around us.

      1. Oh, yes, Marion, I’m sorry. Thank you. It’s true, we won’t know till it all happens. At least we had time to process what they are dealing out to us and realize it’s a bunch of garbage. And yes, it’s also true that we have the truth of the Word of God.
        Are you saying the video that Good Shepherd posted is on a masonic site? I kept thinking how does the person that made it know all of this. I looked around on his channel and realized, he doesn’t. It might be just cleverly edited and put together videos that don’t have very much validity. He doesn’t authenticate most everything he says. But of course, I’m not saying that none of it is true. It is probably just another thing to try to keep us in confusion and paranoia.
        It was a sad day when I realized deception is not only in the world but also in the church:(
        @William, it’s all so true. I like what you said, especially the ending….The Lord knows those who trust him. And I’ve been thinking since yesterday….The sheep know His voice. The obedience part is greatly put aside, isn’t it. It seems as if the Word is studied to tell others what to do, but not to take in for oneself. That makes me think of the song, Trust and obey, for there is no other way.
        @Jeremy, I have been asking myself why would pastors allow teachers like that to come and teach the trusting sheep. It really has had me bothered. It’s hard to believe that they might also be wolves, but that is I guess because they are good at getting dressed in their sheep clothing. I don’t know. But thanks. Now back to taking my own inventory:)

  17. Mijadedios, no, not out of CC completely. Stuck around to attempt to
    warn some brothers. Soon to be out the door as no one seems to want
    to leave the “amusement park”. Sticking with His Word and 1 John 4:
    Trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ, not in mankind or men. onesimus

    1. God will provide when you do leave completely. He’ll prepare you to receive those who leave after you… Blessings in Jesus

  18. I see Chuck Missler referred to as a Christian Zionist. I don’t know what that means. If anyone has time to define that for me, I would greatly appreciate it.
    Thank you.

    1. Hi Georgia
      Christian Zionism comes in many forms and extremes, Chuck Missler is an extreme Christian Zionist and believes that the nation of Israel is still God’s chosen people and that God has a different plan of salvation for Jews during a fictitious 7 year Great Tribulation at then end of time. He clams to exposed the NWO but is very much a part of the NWO by supporting the Israeli government which is controlled by the Pope’s.

      Research the supreme court building in Israel and you will find a 13 level Illuminati pyramid with an all seeing eye. Satan is building his earthly kingdom and people like Missler are his ministers of righteousness.

      Hope this helps

    1. Georgia…I don’t have a blog…I’m a “blog-blogger”…just commenting on other people’s blogs, adding where I can (lol). If you would like my email…just let Mija know….Mija you have my permission to give it to Georgia (I don’t know if you have a way of doing that).

  19. I’m glad to see connections being made. It’s good to edify and encourage one another; however, I would just ask, as a courtesy to me the blogger of this blog, that Comments be centered on the topic and that discussions and questions as well, pertain to the post. I personally do not have time nor want to start a “forum” type blog where people talk about their day and random topics outside of the content of this blog. There are other blogs that allow this and there are forums too where people go for that. Thank you. Ultimately it’s my blog and I do have to monitor it so that people aren’t going off a deep end in the comment section. Thanks again.

  20. Hi–I just found your blog due to trying to do more research on Chuck Missler–I know of all the people, such as Mike Heiser, Tom Horn, that are spoken about here in these notes, as well–including the late David Flynn, on whose message board I’ve posted over the last few years, and still post on from time to time–and, what’s bothering me is what I’ve been finding out as to some of our so-called online Christian ‘teachers’ who seem to have hidden affiliations with the masons/secret societies et.al.[not merely 'the new agers'], and how it appears that they are seeding their teachings from God’s Word with false information on behalf of those secret/hidden orgs. that they truly belong to, believe in, and work for–types of gnostics, every one of them, with no genuine saving faith in Jesus, I guess, who are only posing as ‘ministers of light’, while literally ‘poisoning the well’ with teachings that lead us astray–in big ways and in small ways–but, astray nevertheless–I recently read where someone pointed out that even rat poison is 90% real food, laced with 10% poison that ends by killing the rats who eat it–I’m not comparing those of us who belong to the Lord Jesus with rats, but I think that’s probably how those who are slowly poisoning us with false teachings genuine do view us!

    I’ve had my suspicions about the above listed personages for a very long time, so if I read or listen to what they have to say, I trust that God’s Holy Spirit will help me recognize God’s truth if it’s actually there, then discard what’s not of God–but, that was before I finally began learning more and more of their ties to one another behind the scenes, coupled with their ties to the secret organizations such as the masons–once I began finding out about that link, I knew I needed to do far more research into each individual–and, the more I check into this, the more confirmation I receive about their gnostic beliefs, and hidden ties-that-bind them, not to God and Christ, but to satan, even in the guise of the ‘new world order’/one world gov’t–so, me thinks it’s time to say so long to listening to anything they might say about anything, period, end of story–because, why bother?!–why wear myself out attempting to constantly sift through all they put out there, hoping I don’t become misled?!–so, to me, it’s not worth the endless effort on my part–

    –as a note concerning Tom Horn–he admitted years ago, during interviews on internet talk channels I listened to, that his family had a history of being ‘contacted’ by ‘aliens’/spirit beings, and that his sister found herself invited to attend some meetings on that subject by Stephen Spielberg and his people, at one point–that, alone, set me to wondering about him, and is why I never again found I trusted much of anything the man said–especially because of the way he spoke of that incident involving his sister–he wasn’t exactly upset–in fact, to me, he sounded a bit too matter-of-fact when recounting it–so, something’s not quite right, and I believe now I know what it is–and, it saddens me, but it puts me on permanent alert as well as to begin praying for them all now as never before–

    –thank you for posting the things you have on this subject–“Who Do You Trust?”—in Almighty God and His Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ–ONLY–amen to that!:)

  21. I’ve spent the last few hours trying to follow all these comments talking about people I’ve never heard of and it’s been very enlightening. I just barely heard about Chuck Missler a few days ago and thought I’d check him out. I wasn’t sure how I felt about him so I started doing some digging and this site came up. I admit, I enjoy the fantastical side of things sometimes. I don’t know if I believe in Bigfoot, but a part of me really wants to. That’s what drew me to him and his UFO stuff to begin with. Some of the stuff I’ve seen of his tonight does border on complete ridiculousness though. Thanks to everyone for their informative and well thought out responses above.

    Good Soldier
    You seem to come off as pretty straight up and you know your stuff. So I was very surprised when I started watching that video you posted about the fake media. After going to the guy’s website and watching some more of his videos….he’s a crackpot, a conspiracy theory crackpot. Trying to tell me that two people that look and sound nothing alike are the same actor that’s a member of a rich family that controls the country. Is that guy someone you’ve looked into and support his views, or did you just find him the way I found this site?

    I know I’m off topic for this particular page, but this is my firs time on this site and I don’t know any other way to contact you. I would like to hear your response to this though.

  22. I really appreciate your investigation of popular theologists/evangelists. However, I have really check out a lot of Chuck Missler background and history and I really don’t see much to criticize. It seems he really is thorough with his research from multiple sources, seems to explain when he is using conjecture and speculation, and seems careful to say possibilities not absolutes. I keep looking to see what basis for calling him apostate but I only see some minor connections with things that may or may not be questionable at best and not really even directly associated with him. I would like to see more so I can investigate further for myself.

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