Christopher Dorner Manhunt Makes a Good Case for Drones in America

Areal photo of the burned out cabin where Cop Killer Christopher Dorner standoff ended in Angelus Oaks California, minutes away from Big Bear, CA.

February 7th was the day the world heard about Christopher Dorner. A man with a manifesto, killed two innocent people in Irvine days before and had a hit list of LAPD officers. He was no ordinary lunatic. Dorner had not only police tactical training as a former LAPD officer he was also a Naval Officer trained in A-Symmetrical warfare. He was caught off guard in Corona, CA where he quickly then fled to Riverside of the 15 fwy and ambushed two Riverside Police Officers, killing one, and severely injuring another. All points bulletin, Code Blue. Armed and dangerous, trained in killing and confusing the enemy. When Dorner’s burned out truck was discovered atop of Big Bear Mountain in a small community the manhunt had already began and it was about to take further twists and turns. Every Law Enforcement agency in Southern California wanted this man. He had just killed one of their own and he published a hit list of many LAPD officers. When Dorner’s truck was located in Big Bear media was restricted from showing the areal shots while searches were under way in the mountainous area for this killer. This fact led many to speculate that Drone(s) were being used to comb the area for Dorner. I cannot confirm that Drones were used. The FBI was on the manhunt as well, and although no MSM would touch the fact that the US Government remained deathly silent on one of their own soldiers going off the ranch, we have to know they were fully aware and perhaps even aiding in the search. (My own speculation). We do know that the FBI utilized a Drone to monitor the “Bunker” guy in Alabama just weeks prior to Dorner’s rampage. The Feds closed in after allowing the circus to go on for five or six days and stormed the bunker, shooting the man to death. He was witnessed killing a bus driver and kidnapping a young five year old boy. He was reported to be anti-government. Dorner was not Anti-Government, his philosophies were more aligned with Liberal Agenda talking points (per his own Manifesto). While he hypocritically espoused to be anti-gun and petitioned Barbara Boxer to pass her Anti-Gun laws Dorner was buying up guns, suppressors, and ammo to go on his killing spree of law enforcement officers. We know this administration does all it can to not let a good crisis go to waste. The case for using drones would be easy in a situation like the Manhunt for Dorner, and it would be also in a situation like Sandy Hook. Is it coincidence that the 16 page Memo leaked about CIA director nominee Brennan on the use of Drones on US soil in search for Domestic Terrorists came out on February 4th 2013 and Dorner’s rampage began on February 3rd with the killing of daughter of Randy Quan former LAPD DA who was one of Dorner’s listed targets? People have to feel fear and helplessness first to be willing to trust unconstitutional means of providing safety to the public (e.g TSA, Nude Scanners, Gun prohibition, and now Drones). Perhaps now that our eyes have been manipulated to see a need for Drones, as in the case of Dorner and the Bunker guy, we can recognize that there has already been significant strides in implementing Drones in the US. We just hadn’t paid much attention to what the US Government under the Administration of Obama has been doing to activate Domestic Drones.

Are They Already Watching You (us)?

Do not be ignorant folks, Drones are in use in America already.

“In April 2012, the FAA released a shorter list of entities that had applied for permission to fly drones in the U.S. Although some of those requests were listed as disapproved or expired, the new list does not include either distinction.

An additional 20 U.S. entities that have requested drone authorization have been added to the previous list. Newly listed applicants filed their requests between July 2011 and October 2012, Lynch said, adding that the FAA did not provide the statuses of the requests on the latest document, even though EFF had requested that information.

While universities are likely to fly drones for academic and research purposes, some police departments have said they want to use drones for law enforcement, including for surveillance and crowd control. A sheriff’s office in Texas even went so far as to say it might be a good idea to equip its $300,000 Shadowhawk drone with Tasers, tear gas and rubber bullets, The Daily reported in March.” Source HuffingtonPost.com

From Slate.com: Could the Pentagon’s 1.8 Gigapixel Drone Camera Be Used for Domestic Surveillance?

“From more than 17,000 feet in the air, it can see an object as small as six inches, tracking people and vehicles across an entire city. But the latest government-funded surveillance technology might be a violation of the Constitution if it is deployed in the United States, according to civil liberties groups.

Late last month, an episode of PBS’s series NOVA, “Rise of the Drones,” revealed for the first time the capabilities of an “ARGUS-IS”—the world’s highest resolution camera. Funded by the Pentagon’s research unit DARPA, the 1.8 gigapixel ARGUS was designed to be used on drones to monitor events on the ground below. It was developed by Jiannis Antoniades, an engineer with the defense firm BAE Systems, who told Nova the technology uses a “persistent stare” that is equivalent of having 100 Predator drones look at an area the size of a medium city at once.” Source Slate.com

Electronic Frontier Foundation

Drone Flights in the U.S.

2012  FAA List of Drone License Applicants. EFF has a list of the States and entities that are already using Drones in the US. Click Here for full list

Hit Lists, Drones, and Dead Men Walking.

Christopher Dorner a self proclaimed vigilante and justice seeker had a hit list. Barack Obama has a hit list too. Obama has already legalized killing American citizens at home or abroad if they are deemed “terrorists.” Remember Anwar al-Awlaki? He was an American Citizen targeted by Obama and given the ok to use a drone strike against him to kill him.

Barack Obama orders killing of US cleric Anwar al-Awlaki

Barack Obama’s administration has authorized the assassination of the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, a rare move against an American citizen. Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/7564581/Barack-Obama-orders-killing-of-US-cleric-Anwar-al-Awlaki.html

Perhaps you don’t recall the manhunt for this man. If you do not know this man was a target and killed via drone, your may not also know that his teenage son was killed with him.

“Among the slain was also Abdel-Rahman Awlaki, Anwar’s 16-year-old son, one of his cousins Ahmed Abdelrahman Awlaki, and several of their friends, who were all teenage boys.

And despite the stereotype, the teenage boys weren’t out “doing terrorism” in some vague non-specific manner in the Shabwa Province. According to a statement from relatives, they were out to dinner, eating “under the moon light” when US missiles landed.

Though the Obama Administration seems pretty comfortable with assassinating the elder Awlaki, even though he was a US citizen and not charged with any crimes, the killing of the assorted other people, including several teenagers, seems considerably more suspect. Killing children with missiles isn’t exactly new to the president, of course, but Abdel-Rahman’s status as a natural-born US citizen who was never even suspected of a crime is likely to make it difficult to sweep his assassination under the rug.” Source Here (not an endorsement of the site) Here’s another source: The Atlantic

The United States Government already uses drones on US soil. The United States Government already targets Americans and issues green lights for those on its kill list. The United States Government has already issued defining characteristics of what it considers to be “extremist” and/or domestic terrorism. Do not be ignorant folks, YOU ARE THE ENEMY, this Administration has already said so. And don’t you ever forget it!

PDF Full Text of 2009 Assessment by DHS on who Right-wing Extremists are.

*note from N4TM I cannot say that I’m for the use of Drones 100%. I would have not objected to the use of a Drone to locate Dorner, but I would not be in favor of it being used to kill him especially if there were innocent people who would get killed in return. I don’t advocate the use of Drones by the US military in Pakistan. I have done a lot of research on that topic and there is extensive innocent lives lost when they use these weapons. This is not an easy call because as we all know when it’s our loved ones in danger we would want all means necessary to find the bad guy. However, our current government has identified you and me as the “bad guy,” so how we can be for it if the system be against us? This will continue to be an issue of grave importance and a matter of thoughtful prayer and consideration.

Hugo Chavez Funeral Held in Venezuela

Reblogged from KTLA 5:

(CNN) -- The funeral for Hugo Chavez was held Friday, but his final resting place will not be a cemetery.

In an unexpected twist, it was announced that the Venezuelan president will be embalmed "just like Lenin (and) Mao Zedong" and laid to rest at a military museum where generations of Venezuelans can visit.

It is a reminder that Chavez's image -- a symbol of hope to some and ineptitude to others -- will not soon fade.

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Hugo is dead.

Protesters Gather Downtown To Decry Christopher Dorner’s Death

Reblogged from CBS Los Angeles:

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — About three dozen protesters gathered downtown on Saturday to decry the death of ex-Los Angeles police officer and quadruple murder suspect Christopher Dorner and express their feelings about the handling of the case.

KNX 1070’s Ed Mertz reports that the protesters gathered across the street from police headquarters at 100 W. First Street. The demonstration began at 10 a.m.

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Lost souls protest in support of killer, Christopher Dorner. A group of people chanting, "We stand with Dorner." Someone renin them he murdered four people and shot himself in the head, he's not "standing" at all.

Breaking: Christopher Dorner is he real or is he an Obama Plant? #Manhunt

Breaking news to my N4TM readers:

I deeply apologize for not knowing yesterday what I know today. I’m very upset and disappointed in myself for not investigating more. After seeing random tweets yesterday concerning Mr. Dorner’s “FULL” Manifesto where he expressed a love and admiration for all things public liberal media policy I couldn’t help but look into their claims. As I stated yesterday, this “Manhunt” is real, there are real officers looking for this man, there is real grief for the families who’ve lost their loved one; however, with all that being said no one can negate the fact that the Main Stream Media is playing a HUGE game here and is ultimately going to have to give an account as to why they suppress information, release false information, and deliberately create false stories to perpetuate an administration’s anti-constitutional agenda.

Without further ado, here are the missing pages from the Manifesto that I linked to yesterday: (N4TM commentary at end)

“Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you’ve created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can’t assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation. I will harm no outside agency unless it is a deadly force/IDOL situation. With today’s budgeting and fiscal mess, you guys can not afford lose several officers to IOD or KIA/EOW. Plus, other officers should not have to take on the additional duties and responsibilities of dead officers. Think about their families, outside agencies, Chiefs/Directors.

Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.

The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!

In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.

You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.

Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.

Mr. Freid, assistant principal, Cypress HS. Remember when you lied to my mother and the police officer in your office about stating that you never stated to me in a private conversation that you know the theft suspect (Miranda) stole my watch. Let me refresh your memory. A physical education teachers assistant, a student, stole the list of combination codes to peoples lockers, from the P.E. teacher. That student then opened many of those lockers and stole students personal property. My watch was taken in that multi theft an I reported it to you. A week later you discovered that the theft suspect was Paul Miranda, a student. You stated to me in private that you know for a fact he stole my property. When I attempted to retrieve my property from the suspect. Campus security was called and you lied and stated that you never stated to me that you “know he stole my watch”. You sat there and lied to their faces right in front of me. You said it with such a deliberate, stern face. I never forgot that and was not surprised when 13 years later I was lied on again in the BOR by Teresa Evans. maybe you can confess to your family at the very least in the private of your own home. After that, contact my mother and apologize for lying to her in 1996.

If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual’s brain. Since 6/26/08 when I was relieved of duty and 1/2/09 when I was terminated I have been afflicted with severe depression. I’ve had two CT scans during my lifetime that are in my medical record at Kaiser Permanente. Both are from concussions resulting from playing football. The first one was in high school, 10/96. The second was in college and occurred in 10/99. Both were conducted at Kaiser Permanente hospitals in LA/Orange county. These two CT scans should give a good baseline for my brain activity before severe depression began in late 2008.

Sure, many of you “law enforcement experts and specialist” will state, “in all my years this is the worst……..”, Stop!!! That’s not important. Ask yourselves what would cause somebody to take these drastic measures like I did. That’s what is important.

To my friends listed below, I wish we could have grown old together and spent more time together. When you reminisce of our friendship and experiences, think of that and that only. Do not dwell on my recent actions the last few days. This was a necessary evil that had to be executed in order for me to obtain my NAME back. The only thing that changes policy and garners attention is death.

Luis Sanchez, greatest friend, Marine officer, aviator, and an even better father and husband. I Couldn’t have had a better big brother than you. Your spoken wisdom was always retained by me, you old salty Mustang. You sternly told me that no matter what I accomplish I will always be a ni#%er in many individuals eyes. At the time, I did not comprehend your words. I do now. I never forgot the quote you state below. I love you bro.

I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever feeling sorry for itself. –D.H. Lawrence

Jason Valadao, greatest friend, Naval officer, aviator, Great Father, husband, doctor, and even better human being. I always strived to live my life parallel to your similar values and personal disciplines. Danika is lucky to have found a man like yourself, and you are fortunate to have married an irrefutable imperfect woman. Always focus on your IMMEDIATE family as they are the ones who have loved you unconditionally and always been their to support you in difficult times. I always lived my life as WWJD (what would Jason do). Danika, take care of this guy. Jason, I’m sorry I missed your wedding and you had to find another best man. I’m sorry my predicament with the department stopped me from watching you and Danika get married and arguing with you about issues that were insignificant when I was really angry at the LAPD for what they did to me. I’m deeply sorry and I love you guys.

James Usera, great friend, attorney, father, husband, and the most cynical/blatant/politically incorrect friend a man can have. Best quality about you in college and now is that you never sugar coated the truth. I will miss our political discussions that always turned argumentative. Thanks for introducing me to outdoor sports like fishing, hunting, mudding, and also respect for the land and resources. Us city boys don’t get out much like you Alaskans. You even introduced me to PBR. A beer, that when you’re a poor college student is completely acceptable to get buzzed off of. I’m sorry I’ll never get to go on that moose and bear hunt with you. I love you bro.

Kinta Smith, greatest friend, accountant, entrepreneur, and even better Human being. You are probably the most well balanced person I’ve ever met and the most driven for success. In college, and after graduation, I was inspired by your personal drive. Never settle. When you make your first million, promise me you won’t forget to enjoy it a bit. I know your first reaction will be to invest it somewhere else. Spend a little, just a little. I love you bro.

Jason Young, great friend, entrepeneur, husband and father. You showed me the importance of fatherhood and friendship. Love you bro.

Suzie Clark Cunningham, Kassandra Harrell, Melinda Yates, Cal Jackson, Ryan Smith, The Rebelledos, The Banks, Ben Bines, J. Work, Bill O’neill, Jeremy Fletcher, and Rob Harriston.

You guys were all important and very special to me. Don’t be angry with me. I missed some of your weddings and unfortunately, some of your funerals. This was a necessary evil.

Some say it is my fault that I was terminated. Yes, DDX, I remember you stating this to me in an angry fit. You said that I should have kept my mouth shut about another officer’s misconduct. Maybe you were right. But I’m not built like others, it’s not in my DNA and my history has always shown that. When you view the video of the suspect stating he was kicked by Evans, maybe you will see that I was a decent person after all. I told the truth. It still hurt that you abandoned me in my time of need. I hope you’re happy, that’s all I ever wanted for you.

Sgt. Leonard Perez, you meant well but you should have known with your time on the job that the department would attempt to protect someone like Evans because of her time on the job, personal friendships, and ethicity. I’m not angry with you, but you should have known as an IA investigator.

Sgt Maggie Faust LPPD, Ofcr John Thomas LPPD (ret), and Chief Eric Nunez LPPD, your guidance and mentoring as a young police explorer was second to none and invaluable as a young man, police officer, and naval officer. Sgt Faust, you forewarned me long ago about joining LAPD as they were “different” and operated differently from other modern law enforcement agencies. I now know it was your humbleness and respect for all who wear the badge and protect their communities that you didn’t just express what you wanted to say, that they lack values and basic ethics as law enforcement officers. Chief Nunez, your fucking awesome. Thanks for the long talks over the years when I was an explorer, college student, Naval officer, and Police officer. Your are a great leader and carry your heart on your sleeve. Your son will be a great Air Force officer with the upringing you provided. John, what can I say? Your just an awesome person and my first exposure to what law enforcement was really about was on our ride alongs. Your realistic approach and empathetic approach to treating all people as humans first is something I carried with me daily. Thank you, every one of you.

Dr. Funahashi, thank you for the superb surgery you performed on my knee on 7/98 in Irvine, CA. I never had the opportunity to thank you for allowing me to live a life free of knee joint pain. Thank you.

CM1 Bissett (Ret.), I learned more from you about leadership than most of my own commanders. You lived by a strict ethos of get it done, and get it done right. I wanted to attend your retirement, I really did. But because of my predicament I was unable to. Hope you and Ritchie are still together. I’ve always held you in high regard.

Sgt Maj. Kenneth “Rock” Rocquemore USMC, Thank you for the intense instruction and mentorship and time spent forging me into a never quit officer. You were challenging as a DI. You made sure the vicious and intense personality I possess was discovered. On a lighter note….Don’t feel humbled you never broke me. I made it a personal goal to never give up years before. The Corp is lucky to have you at the front. Your leadership is essential and needed for all marines, especially staff NCO’s and mentorship and advisement to company grade officers. You are the epitome of a US marine and never forget that.

I thank my friends for the awesome shared experiences. I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex.

It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don’t make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.

Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I’ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It’s the truth.

Hillary Clinton. You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He’s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.

Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no shit taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.

Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.

Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they’re your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire’s pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.

Willie Geist, you’re a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting. Your future is brighter than most.

Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him. I’ve never heard a positive word about America or its interest from his mouth, ever. On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.

The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.

General Petraeus, you made a mistake that the majority of men make once, twice, or unfortunately many times in a lifetime. You are human. You thought with your penis. It’s okay.I personally believe you should have never resigned and told your critics to shove it. You only answer to two people regarding the affair, your wife and children, period. I hope you return to government service to your country as it is visibly in your DNA.

General Colin Powell, your book “My American Journey” solidified my decision to join the military after college. I had always intended to serve, but your book and journey motivated me. You are an inspiration to all Americans and influenced me greatly.

To all SEA’s (senior enlisted advisers), you are just as important if not a greater viability to large and small commands. It’s time you take a more active role in leading your enlisted and advising officers. These are not your twilight years or time to relax. You can either strengthen the tip of the spear, or make it brittle. You decide.

Pat Harvey, I’ve always thought you carried yourself professionally and personally the way a strong black woman should. Your articulation and speech is second to none. You are the epitome of a journalist/anchor. You are America.

Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment. You changed the perception of your gay community and how we as Americans view the LGBT community. I congratulate you on your success and opening my eyes as a young adult, and my generation to the fact that you are know different from us other than who you choose to love. Oh, and you Prop 8 supporters, why the fuck do you care who your neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of shit.

Westboro Baptist Church, may you all burn slowly in a fire, not from smoke inhalation, but from the flames and only the flames.

Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be “Tebowing” when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats if not already and show glimpses of Daniel Day Lewis and Morgan Freeman-esque type qualities of greatness. Trust me when I say that you will be one of the greatest ever.

Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N’bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

Dave Brubeck’s “Take Five” is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies.

Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination.

John and Ken from KFI, never mute your facts and personal opinions. You are one of the few media personalities who speak the truth, even when the truth is not popular. I will miss listening to your discussions.

Bill Handel, your effin awesome. For years I enjoyed your show.

Anthony Bourdain, you’re a modern renaissance man who epitomizes the saying “too cool for school”.

Larry David, Kevin Hart, the late Patrice Oneal, Lisa Lampanelli, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Jon Stewart, Wanda Sykes, Dennis Miller, and Jeff Ross are pure geniuses. I’m a big fan of all of your work. As a child my mom caught me watching Def Jam comedy at midnight when I should have been asleep. Instead of scolding me, the next night she let me stay up late and watch George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor comedy specials with her for hours. My sides were sore for days.

Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.

Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the fucking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.

Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death.

If you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon’s body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an asshole. Zimmerman couldn’t get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status “disabled veteran” during your bail hearing but doesn’t state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I’m sure he’s utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court.

KCCO

Anonymous, you are hated, vilified, and considered an enemy to the state. I personally view you as a culture and a necessity that brings truth to a cloaked world. Forge ahead!

Charlie Sheen, you’re effin awesome.

My opinion on women in combat MOS’, Designators, Rates, and AFSC’s. I wish all of you who attempt to pursue combat occupational roles the greatest success in completing, graduating, and qualifying in their respective schools/courses. Many want to see you fail. Remember, everyone of you is a pioneer. There was a time when they didn’t allow blacks to fight the good fight. This is your civil rights. Don’t quit!!!

It’s time to allow gay service member’s spouses to utilize the same benefits that all heterosexual dependents are eligible for. Medical, Dental, Tricare, Deers, SGLI, BX, Commissary, Milstar, MWR, etc. Flag officers, lets be honest. You can’t really give a valid argument to as why gays shouldn’t be eligible as every month a new state enacts laws that allow same sex marriage.

LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That’s what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don’t be assholes and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.

Mr. Bill Cosby, you are a reasonable and talented man who has spoken the truth of the cultural anomalies within the black communities that need to change now. The black communities’ resentment toward you is because they don’t like hearing the truth or having their clear and evident dirty laundry aired to the nation. The problem is, the country is not blind nor dumb. They believe we are animals. Do not mute your unvarnished truthful speech or moral compass. Blacks must strive for more in life than bling, hoes, and cars. The current culture is an epidemic that leaves them with no discernible future. They’re suffocating and don’t even know it. MLK Jr. Would be mortified at what he worked so hard for in our acceptance as equal beings and how unfortunately we stopped progressing and began digressing. Chicago’s youth violence is a prime example of how our black communities values have declined. We can not address this nation’s intolerant issues until we address our own communities morality issues first. Accountability. We need to hold ou”

http://www.redstate.com/4billlewis/2013/02/08/christopher-dorner-uncensored-manifesto-of-a-deranged-former-lapd-officer/

N4TM Commentary:

I’m so sickened by this ‘new’ development. There are real people putting their lives in danger over this sick game that Dorner and the MSM are playing. I postulated last night that perhaps this was politically driven, and that cogitation was made without having read the remaining missing pages of the “Manifesto”( contents above) (if it’s even Dorner’s words). Does the CIA and the DOD really have nothing else to do then to play with people’s minds and people’s lives to further this Administration’s Anti-America agenda? Who is running this government anyway?! What tipped me off this morning was rethinking the Anderson Cooper Care Package that he was sent. According to reports Anderson Cooper of CNN received a parcel from “Christopher Jordan Dorner” on February 1, 2013. In the package was a DVD, a post it note, and a commemorative coin with bullet holes in it. Supposedly Cooper didn’t know about it until yesterday. These questions and the mention of Dorner’s adoration for Hollywood lead me to investigate further this morning. Also, notice how many grammar and misspelled words are in this portion of the Manifesto as well as the use of slang that was not attributed in the first 11 pages-once again if it’s real at all.

Facts (as we are spoon fed by MSM):

• Feb. 1st Anderson Cooper gets a sCare package by Dorner that is opened by someone but done nothing about?
• Feb. 3rd Monica Quan, 28, and her fiancé, Keith Lawrence, 27, were fatally shot Sunday while sitting in their car on the top level of a parking structure in the 2100 block of Scholarship Drive, according to Irvine police.
• Feb. 7th Three officers were shot — two in Riverside, one in Corona — during the search early Thursday for a former Los Angeles Police Department officer wanted in connection with a double slaying in Irvine. (One officer killed) 1:30 am
• Feb. 7th Dorner’s vehicle is found in Big Bear, CA smoldering from being torched. Subsequently the area was evacuated. Although reports say people are free to return to the Resort the local schools remained closed for Friday Feb. 8th.

This man’s picture has been released of him overweight, although he could be thin right now we don’t really know. The man was fired from LAPD in 2008. I have some questions for the MSM media and the investigators who are really looking for him can take note:

• Why has Dorner waited all this time to seek revenge?
• Where has he been in the last five years?
• What jobs did he have to support himself?
• Was he on welfare?
• Did he ever leave the country outside of working for the Navy?
• Does he now or did he ever work for CNN and or any of it’s affiliates as a media consultant or liaison or did he ever work with or know Mr. Anderson Cooper prior to sending him a parcel?
• Does the Media/Administration truly believe that the American people are stupid enough to believe a story like this? I mean truly, kudos for involving real life police departments on this one and creating such a high level of emotion, greater than Sandy Hook possibly if this continues and “Dorner” is able to kill any more people. I’m disgusted beyond belief right now. I’ll be taking a break from this charade and return later after I’ve had time to re-access. Again I apologize to those who return to N4TM for information, yesterday I would have posted the ENTIRE “Manifesto” had I had it at the time. Who is Christopher Jordan Dorner really?

*Update*

Dorner Manhunt: Police Facilities on High Alert Across SoCal

One of Dorner’s old friends, who is mentioned in his manifesto, is having trouble believing this is the same person knew — although Dorner did mention that he had an issue with the LAPD.

“He certainly didn’t express any indication that he had violent tendencies or was out for retribution or anything of that nature,” college friend James Usera told CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

“Needless to say, the events of the past  couple days come as a very great shock to me.”  Read more: http://ktla.com/2013/02/08/security-beefed-up-at-police-facilities-across-socal/#ixzz2KKmLBnoU   Read more at http://ktla.com/2013/02/08/security-beefed-up-at-police-facilities-across-socal/#ti91b8TMqXdASLd4.99

**UPDATE** CLICK HERE FOR latest on Dorner by N4TM: http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/update-christopherdorner-revisited-breaking-release-id-of-riverside-pd-officer-killed-by-dorner/

 

N4TM- maybe it’s not him (Dorner) at all.

Breaking:Christopher Dorner:Manhunt for Cop Killer not a False Flag

Christopher Dorner, 33 yrs old, former LAPD officer has shot 3 officers and killed one early this morning in Riverside California. This monster was fired from LAPD and is a US Navy Reservist. He has sharp shooter ability and is armed and dangerous. He left a disturbing manifesto on his FaceBook page in which he already began to kill family members of officers on his hit list:

This is the 11 page manifesto of Christopher Dorin. I have read through and am reading through some of it as I compile this post. This man is highly intelligent, articulate, decisive, and lethal. He is establishing his case as to why he has chosen this ends to his means. He has taken up a false image that he is judge and juror now of all the people who have harmed him. His manifesto reads as someone who is highly narcissistic and anti-social. If the FBI and Law Enforcement are doing their job they are highlighting all the names he mentions and placing them under protective watch and or surveillance. Mr. Dorin is seeking out Media attention, then give it to him, post the entire 11 page rant of a homicidal psychopath. Just because wrong has been done to him does not entitle him to be executioner. Air the dirty laundry of the LAPD. If I were a real journalist and had money and resources I would investigate all his charges against the LAPD and make them known if they were true, but I would also show that this man has left reality long ago and is psychologically of sound mind, although mad, he knows exactly what he is doing, his intentions are to kill many and die in the end.

I know law enforcement in Riverside CA and areas surrounding. My bias is towards the officers who are being hunted by this crazed person. My prayers are for a swift end to Mr. Dorner’s agenda.

Link to 11 page manifesto. I have copied it as well so if it disappears I have it and will repost.

http://muckrack.com/topic/Christopher%20Dorner

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/02/christopher_dorner_lapd_corrup.php

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16881142-disgruntled-ex-cop-hunted-in-connection-with-double-slaying-manifesto-threatens-ex-colleagues

A Quote from his 11 page manifesto:

“I had worked patrol at LAPD’s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD’s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.” –”The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD.” —”Bratton, Beck, Hayes, Tingirides, Eisenberg, Martella, Quan, Evans, Hernandez, Villanueva/Gallegos, and Anderson. Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.”

*UPDATE* A possible break in the case; a torched car matching the description of Christopher Dorner found in Big Bear, CA.

http://www.bigbeargrizzly.net/news/article_cc4c64ee-7161-11e2-87f1-0019bb2963f4.html

**Update/ 5:17 PST

Published on Feb 7, 2013

Authorities are searching door to door in the Big Bear area for Christopher Jordan Dorner , the suspect accused of killing a Riverside police officer as he was ambushed with his trainee early Thursday morning. For more details head to http://www.pe.com

A caravan of ambulances has arrived up the mountain and swat teams and investigators with bloodhounds are canvassing the wilderness.

In the San Bernardino Mountains, sheriff’s trackers protected by snipers were following footprints along snowy U.S. Forest Service roads south of Big Bear Lake.

Fresh tracks leading both east and west were found, along forest service road 2N06 near SN10, though they appeared to have been made by the same person, the trackers said.

Bloodhounds also were being dispatched to the area in an effort to hasten the search before night fell and storms moved into the area. Bloodhounds had been ordered from other police agencies and snipers were waiting in the hillsides. Source HERE.

N4TM commentary:

It is my opinion that he is blending in a community and has no intention of being captured. He wants to die in this situation and his death would only add fuel to his demented mentality that his death would be his way of gloriously defending his version of “truth.” Unless he set up the Big Bear area with IED’s I doubt he’s up there. Just my opinion. I continue to pray for those involved in the manhunt, I know some who are involved and it’s going to be a divine act of God that no more people die in this situation. Also, although up until now civilians are not Dorner’s target, let us pray that he does not switch tactics and start targeting people.

Afterthought: The media and law enforcement want us to believe that Christopher Jordan (CJ?) Dorner is still 270 pounds. If he was still  270lbs that would certainly cause  him to stand out especially considering his fat pictures have been circulated like crazy on MSM in the last 18 hours. But what if Dorner is in a thin stage? He was fired years ago. Who saw him last? What does he look like most recently? Of course there’s not going to be a lot of information on him while they are hunting him down, but I am going with my gut that the same guy who supposedly mailed Anderson Cooper a care package is not hiding up in the woods of Big Bear. I’m adding this picture of Mr. Dorner that I found of him in his thinner days. As much as I know about this fluid story there are still questions that bother me. He was fired years ago yet he emerges now; he’s a highly trained military operative, former LAPD officer who knows the ins and outs of manhunt;, a man who had a very high security clearance which tells me he did some nasty things already in his past; and coincidentally he’s being hunted down? Dorner is a cop killer yes, but it screams political metaphor don’t you think when John Brennan is giving testimony for his choice on Drone attacks on US citizens on the same day of this #manhunt? I don’t believe this is a flase flag, perhaps I am blinded by my bias; but, the longer this goes on the more time gaps are revealed which lends me to consider that all of his activities could have been foreknown. If Dorner took this to another level and began targeting random civilians the administration would look like their business of using drones to terminate “Domestic Terrorists” would gain the appeal it needs to have public support. I pray that this is not politically driven and that this is not an attempt to “ok” a government targeting Americans with thought police and drones armed with missiles over our skies. How sick would that be? Given the state of this Administration anything could be possible. If they didn’t set him to act this out they most certainly will exploit the situation. I really loathe that the truth has become so distorted and diluted. However, I trust that an all knowing all powerful God will reveal the truth in this. Yes even this.

**Update**

Click here for follow up article: http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/breaking-christopher-dorner-is-he-real-or-is-he-an-obama-plant-manhunt/

The longer this situation continues the more questions I have for the Media and for the Authorities. The unanswered and often unasked questions are what now lead me to believe this is not your average Jason Bourne  situation. My last three posts on Dorner show the evolution of a case to be made that this guy was set off on purpose.

*update* most recent post by N4TM on Dorner: click here

Christians in Culture War but Defending Apostasy

Attacking Ellen DeGeneres and JCPenny in the name of “Christianity” and trying to defend “Traditional Values” is vanity when there’s a log in the eye…

WHO IS AFA?

American Family Association (AFA) a non-profit 501(c3) organization was founded in 1977 by Donald E. Wildmon, who was pastoring First United Methodist Church in Southaven, Mississippi, at the time. Since 1977, AFA has been on the front lines of America’s culture war. The original name of the ministry was National Federation for Decency but was changed to American Family Association (AFA) in 1988.

Today, AFA is one of the largest and most effective pro-family organizations in the country with over two million online supporters and approximately 180,000 paid subscribers to the AFA Journal, the ministry’s monthly magazine. In addition, AFA owns and operates nearly 200 radio stations across the country under the American Family Radio (AFR) banner.

Other divisions of AFA include OneNewsNow.com, an online news provider that is syndicated around the world. AFA maintains activist web sites such as OneMillionMoms.com and OneMillionDads.com that rally Christian activists to contact companies asking them to drop their advertising from objectionable TV shows. AFA web sites average over 40 million hits and five million visitors each month.

AFA uses all these means to communicate an outspoken, resolute, Christian voice throughout America.

American Family Association Board of Directors:
Dr. Forrest Sheffield
Reverend Jack Williams
Dr. Gayle Alexander
Reverend Curtis Petrey
Michael Murphree
Heywood Washburn
Dick Baker
Dr. Ray Pritchard
Walter Billingsley
Timothy B. Wildmon and Dan Celia

The AFA has a sister group called OneMillionMoms (OMM).

This group OMM,is currently at “War” with Ellen DeGeneres and JCPenny for their choice in making her their spokesperson for the store. (*I do not watch Ellen’s show, so don’t go there). I was on Youtube and saw a short video of her from her show talking about this recent controversy:

I’m not for Gay Marriage, so don’t go there. However, what I find sort of confounding is that OneMillionMoms, via AFA, are attacking JCPenny for using Ellen DeGeneres for a spokesman and their argument is that “Traditional Values” are at risk because of this. I guess AFA and OneMillionMoms think they are speaking for the majority of “Conservative Christians” who have to walk the earth like Lot did amongst vast and converging hedonism, but don’t they know that they are conversely defending an originally apostate (James Cash Penny) organization?

BIO from Wikipedia:

James Cash Penney married three times in his life. First wife Bertha Alva Hess died of pneumonia, second wife Mary Hortense Kimball also died of unspecified medical issues in 1924. Finally Penney found lasting love with third wife Caroline Marie Autenrieth, to whom he was married forty-five years until his death. By his first wife he had two sons, Roswell Penney and James C. Penney III. By his second wife he had another son, Kimball Penney. And by his third wife, he had two daughters, Mary Frances Penney and Carol Penney.

On December 26, 1970, Penney fell and fractured his hip. Just a few weeks later, he suffered a heart attack and never fully recovered. He died February 12, 1971. The Reverend Dr. Norman Vincent Peale delivered the eulogy at Penneys’ funeral. (NEW AGE GURU/Peale) Penney was buried in the Bronx section of New York City. His grave, at the Woodlawn Cemetery, is not far from that of fellow retail entrepreneur, F.W. Woolworth.

Affiliations

Penney was a Freemason most of his adult life, being Initiated into Wasatch Lodge No. 1 Free and Accepted Masons of Utah, on April 18, 1911. A member of both the Scottish and York Rites Penney was coroneted a 33rd Degree on October 16, 1945 , and received the Gold Distinguished Service Award by the General Grand Chapter, Royal Arch Masons, in Kansas City, Missouri in 1958.

During the Great Depression, Penney teamed with Thomas J. Watson, President and Founder of IBM, Arthur Godfrey, the radio and TV personality; and Norman Vincent Peale, a minister, inspirational speaker, and author of The Power of Positive Thinking, to form the first board of 40Plus, an organization that helps unemployed managers and executives. Penney was also member of two professional fraternities: Alpha Gamma Rho and Alpha Kappa Psi.

Penney founded the James C. Penney Foundation in 1954. The foundation was restructured in 1999 as the Penney Family Fund, and is no longer affiliated with J.C. Penney Co., Inc. or its corporate giving program. Today, the fund is part of the Common Counsel Foundation, an Oakland, California based consortium of family philanthropic foundations and individual donors. The Penney Family Fund endows organizations in Oregon, California, and Washington state that work to advance human rights, community social, political, and economic empowerment, government accountability, and environmental sustainability. [End of Source: Wikipedia]

From James Cash Penny’s bio on Wasatch Lodge No 1, Freemasons of Utah;

A member of both the Scottish and York Rites Penney was coroneted a 33rd Degree on October 16, 1945, and received the Gold Distinguished Service Award by the General Grand Chapter, Royal Arch Masons, in Kansas City, Missouri in 1958.(SOURCE: http://www.wasatchlodge.org/publish/james-jc-penny/ **Not An Endorsement)

Masonic Membership is NOT conducive with Biblical Christianity. Masons are members of Elite Cults. They portray an allusion of doing good works, however their acts of benevolence don’t justify the idolatry in worshiping all forms of gods and occultist practices that take place in Masonic Lodges. Masonic practices are an abomination to the LORD. I know there are ties of Mr.Penny to other secret societies but I will not address them here. My issue is the blatant hypocrisy concerning AFA and OMM. How is it that the AFA is attacking JCPenny for using Ellen when JCPenny was corrupt from the start by a supposed “Christian Brother?” There are people who are defending the use of Ellen based on their ability to be inclusive and tolerant; there are Christians who are offended by this controversy for a variety of reasons, and there are non-believers who are turned off by the whole matter. There are un-believers on the Face Book page of both OneMillionMoms and AFA saying that this organization (AFA & OneMillionMoms) are not to “judge” based on Matthew 7, and rightly so. The Culture Warriors have it all wrong, we Christians are not to judge the lost, we are to judge the brethren by their fruit and we are being corrected to this fact by non-believers! The world is the world, it will do as the world does. If you don’t like that JCPenny is using Ellen you have every right as an American in a “free” society to not shop at JCPenny. If you don’t agree with Prop.8 you have every right as an American to oppose the legislation and take necessary matters in the public forum to fight it in the courts. However, as a Christian we do not have the luxury to go around judging the sinner who is lost and is in their sin. We are to take them the Gospel of Christ Jesus! Wow, what a concept. If the sinner is saved by the Grace of God then the Holy Spirit would be allowed to do the work of conviction and convert the soul unto righteousness. All these people at AFA and OMM sound like a clanging gong. They are condemning the lost in their sin and not showing them Christ, they are showing Pharisaical dogma that has never won a soul. If AFA and OMM objected to JCPenny for being linked to an abhorrent group like the Masons and wanted us Christians to stop shopping based on their Ecumenical perversion at least it would be an honorable objection; but all this controversy over Ellen is putting another nail in the coffin for the term “Christian.” Once again, Christians are evil, they are bigoted, and plain lame. The True Gospel is lost amongst an apostate church that is more concerned about making a home here on earth and a kingdom for themselves than reaching the Lost for Christ whose kingdom is NOT of this world.

Jesuits beget Jesuits: Norman Geisler Veritas & Calvary Chapel Bible College

Veritas Evangelical Seminary

Affiliation
Veritas Evangelical Seminary is a free standing inter-denominational institution with its own Board of Directors, without affiliation to any particular church or denomination.

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Board of Directors

• Luman R. (Roger) Wing (San Diego, CA)—Research Scientist [Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa Board Member, former UTT Board Member, Pastor Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa]

• Don Stewart (Laguna Niguel, CA)—Author/Speaker [Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa Board Member, Pastor's Perspective co-host, His Channel]
• David Shirley (Murrieta, CA)—Pastor/Educator [Calvary Chapel Pastor Westminster London,England]
• Joseph M. Holden (Winchester, CA)—President [Calvary Chapel Bible College Academic Adviser & Teacher]
• Brian Brodersen (Costa Mesa, CA)—Pastor/Chairman [Calvary Chapel Bible College Vice President, Assistant Pastor Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa]

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(Veritas Evangelical Seminary) Adjunct Teachers/Guest Lecturers

Ergun Caner (Missler/Compass, ISCA/Geisler)
Arnold Fruchtenbaum ( Radio Free Church/John Higgins, Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism/Billy Graham (UN))
Ed Hindson (Missler/Compass)
Thomas Ice (Missler/Compass)
J. Randall Price (Missler/Compass)
Brian Nixon (Calvary Chapel of Albuquerque Pastoral Staff/Skip Heitzig, Publishing staff CCCM/Chuck Smith, Word for Today/Don Stewart&Chuck Smith)
Ron Rhodes (Missler/Compass)
William E. Nix (
Jay H. Smith (

Calvary Chapel Bible College: Guest Teachers/Lecturers

Dr. Richard Bennett, Cheryl Brodersen, Joey Buran, Charlie Campbell John Chubik

Dr. Paul Copan, John Courson, Dr. Ed Bulkley, Dr. Norman Geisler, Ken Graves,

Skip Heitzig, Jack Hibbs, Bob Hoekstra, Sean Housman, Poncho Juarez, Todd Kent

David Guzik, Wayne Taylor, Rafael Manzanares, Don McClure, John Millhouse

Norman Geisler Author of the Chicago Statement of 1978, formulated post PhD. from Jesuit School, Loyola University; is the Founder of Veritas Evangelical Seminary, and founder of International Society of Christian Apologetics (ISCA). Geisler is a part of Calvary Chapel Bible College, a frequent speaker at Calvary Chapel Churches, and conversely all of his Board Members of Veritas are Calvary Chapel related Pastors and/or Speakers and/or CC Board Members of other Calvary Chapels. The Chicago Statement of 1978 was signed by over 300 Evangelicals, including David Hocking and Josh McDowell to name a few.

Now some would have you to believe these people are not one in the same. What do you think now that you see the evidence?

Geisler, Missler, Smith, Graham

Chuck Missler admits he was a co-laborer with Chuck Smith at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa for over 25 years, it’s in his bio on every site Chuck admits to running. Some would have you to believe Chuck Missler and Chuck Smith have little to do with one another now, in spite of the obvious facts that Chuck Missler speaks at Calvary Chapels and his organization: Compass.org/Steeling the Mind propagates the same roll call of speakers at various Calvary Chapels across America and abroad. Maybe we need to see a  more recent connection. How about this:

This is from a site called “Darwin is dead” site address is:

http://www.darwinisdead.com/Creation%20Science%20Fellowship%20of%20Calvary%20Chapel.htm

“Creation Science Fellowship of Calvary Chapel meets 7:30 P.M. the first and third  Saturday of each month at 3000 West MacArthur Blvd in Santa Ana, California. The six-story LOGOS Building is located just west of Fairview Rd and MacArthur Blvd, and is adjacent to the main campus of Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa.  Admission is free.  Parking is free.  We are open to the public.” Source: darwinisdead.com (not an endorsement)

If you view the page you will see that is related to CCCM and you’ll see the speakers they have.

February 12, 2011 – Special extra meeting on the 2nd Saturday of February – Chuck Missler, Ph.D. (Biblical Studies) spoke on the topic, “Cosmic Electricity: A Billion, Billion, Billion, Billion Times Stronger Than Gravity!”

Chuck Missler appears to still be close to Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Chuck Missler provides CC’s with their list of “Speakers” constantly. Norman Geisler is a Jesuit trained PHD(not an endorsement of the site). Geisler has stated along the same lines of Chuck Missler that he believes UFO’s are really demonic Nephelim. Geisler wrote a couple “Covenants” in his lifetime that gained the “Speakers/Pastors” that are involved in Calvary Chapel. All of Norman Geisler’s board members are related to Calvary Chapel. Norman Geisler may be a subversive Jesuit who is begetting further Jesuits by his involvement in CC Bible College and Veritas. Chuck Missler, CNP member shares his men with CC and Geisler. They are one in the same. There is no “discernment” there are no “watchman” this is a highly designed well oiled machine. I pray you research all that I’ve presented here.

The Building where Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa holds their “Creation Science Fellowship” meetings is in the same building that Samaritan’s Purse (Franklin Graham) has an office.

Click on picture for enlarged version. I’m sure the use of Samaritan’s Purse and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa has nothing to do with each other. Just like Skip Heitzig and Greg Laurie being on the Billy Graham Evangelical Association board has nothing to do with Calvary Chapel. I’m sure Arnold Frauchtenbaum’s attendance and signature of Lausanne Covenant (LCJE- Lausanne Consultation of Jewish Evangelicalism run by Billy Graham) has nothing to do with anything either. The Lausanne Covenant is part of the United Nations and World Council of Churches, but that has nothing to do with a one-world-apostate-ecumenical-interdenominational-false church. Billy Graham’s Masonic ties and work with the Vatican has nothing to do with Veritas, Calvary Chapel Bible College, shared board members, man issued and signed covenants. I’m sure it’s all nothing.

You will not find a “Discernment” ministry that has anything to do with book deals or conference speakers related to Calvary Chapel truly exposing what is going on within Calvary Chapel. Do not expect any “Researcher” or “Speaker” who shows up at a Calvary Chapel to tell you who is on whose board or who is on the “pass go” list. Some discernment sites and “speakers” may give the appearance of warning about Calvary Chapel’s heresy but they may be playing you for a fool to keep you preoccupied with some exposure while they are busy covering up for their friends.

Chuck’s Convergence; Catholics are Christians Too

Clip One October 11, 2011:

http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2011_10_11.m4a   (Start at 48:10 mark; also see the transcript below.)

Transcript:

Don Stewart: Alright back we go to the phones to Orange, California with Ben on the line. Ben welcome to Pastors Perspective, Hi!

Ben: Hi how are you?

Don Stewart: Fine thank you!

Ben: I uh, I am a loyal listener, I um love going to uh your men’s conferences [Don Stewart: “Good!”] and I fellowship with a bunch of people at Calvary Chapel’s, um I visit Greg Laurie’s Harvest, and I have a question because I sometimes I have a hard time understanding um how I um, communicate with people um of the Protestant faith because I am Catholic, and sometimes we um have communication issues and, they want to get into apologetics and um, you know I love the worship and the fellowship with those – with the different people but um I’m going to hang onto my faith as well, and I am just curious what you think about it.

Don Stewart: OK, good question there Ben in fact were glad your going to these events we’re glad you listen to this program. OK Chuck what about that?

Chuck Smith: Ben I have a cousin who was a mother superior in the Catholic Church, and uh, she was just a wonderful Christian, loved her and we had great conversations together, and I didn’t try to convert her from Catholicism nor did she try to convert me uh into becoming a Catholic, its just we both recognize that uh you know we have, we had the same Lord, and the same uh faith ya know and so uh we just uh you know on those things we agreed upon we just agreed upon and we didn’t really bring up the things where there were disagreements.

Not included in the video:

Don Stewart [Minute 49:42]: Ya um again the question is Ben if you love the Lord Jesus, if you’re trusting Him and Him alone for your salvation that’s the key, what are you trusting in, what’s going to get you to heaven is it Jesus and something else or Jesus and Jesus alone and that’s the question that needs to be answered, and of course the Bible said its Jesus alone by grace through faith we’re saved, it’s not of ourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast, cause Chuck it wouldn’t be heaven would it if people were walking around bragging what they’ve done…and uh no peacocks strutin’ around, na na it’d be real miserable we’re not going to see that in heaven. Alright let’s go now to Aurora, Colorado and talk to Jay on Pastors Perspective, Jay welcome to welcome to the program [Minute 50:20].

Listen for Yourself:

Pastors Perspective 10-11-11 (Caller Ben from Orange at 48:15 min mark)

and 11-23-11 (Caller Beverly from Ontario)

Clip two November 23, 2011

Transcript below:

Host- Alrighty we’re going to Ontario California we’re going to talk to Beverly

Host-Beverly you’re on Pastors Perspective you have about a minute left so if you can state your question?

(Beverly) Caller- Yes I have a question is it right for a Catholic woman to marry a Christian man even if she’s pregnant with his child?

Chuck Smith Sr.- Well, I don’t ah see that, ah, well ah there’s going to be difficulty, uh ya know, but if you can resolve the differences, I don’t think they’re that great, and I think that you probably, ah if you’re pregnant with his child you should marry him, and of course ah I think that uh, it’s um it’s alright you can resolve the differences. and I think that uh I , ah, I know of many of that ya know.. You know Catholics are basically Christians too and uh so uh I think that uh, you know what the differences are less than much less than what a lot of people face and are overcoming in their mariages.

Chuck Jr- I think the more important questions are is he a “good” man and do they love each other.

Chuck Sr. – uh huh.

Fade to video of Chuck Smith at Harvest 2009. “Fasten Your Seat belts…”

convergence

noun meeting, junction, intersection, confluence, concentration, blending, merging, coincidence, conjunction, mingling, concurrence, conflux Hindon lies at the convergence of eight roads.

**Update: A reader sent me a link to his post dated 11-10-11 in reference to yet Another Ecumenical comment by Chuck Smith:

11/10/11

Another Voice (Rev.18:4) Click here to read full post

Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Bows To Mormon God; Tells 10-yr Old Girl “Good Mormons…Will Be In Heaven”

This is quoted from the 11-9-11 “Pastor’s Perspective” call-in radio program at 36:10 min. The audio recording is: here
***
36:10 Don Stewart: To Cheyenne Wyoming…we have Alexa on the line….10 yr. old Alexa: My aunt Valerie(?) doesn’t really know the book of Mormon…so will she still go to hell?Don Stewart: Ok good question…Alexa’s got an aunt, Chuck, who is a mormon and wants to know if the mormon will go to heaven…Chuck Smith: It all depends on their relationship with Jesus Christ…and there are a lot of good Mormons who do believe in Jesus and I believe they will be in heaven, but you know we can’t do it on own righteousness or own works you know we have to depend on Jesus for our entrance into heaven…[end]

Another Voice (Rev.18:4) Click here to read full post

¹³ “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
¹⁴ Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.  
¹⁵ “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
¹⁶ You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?
¹⁷ Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
¹⁸ A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
¹⁹ Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
²⁰ Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:13-20

The Demise of Calvary Chapel

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/08/lawsuit_claims_calvary_chapel.php#more

Gimme That OC Religion

Lawsuit Claims Calvary Chapel Allowed Shuffling of Pedophile Employee from Diamond Bar to Idaho

By Gustavo Arellano
Tue., Aug. 23 2011 at 11:37 AM

The word for today is…lawsuit!  ​Everyone knows about the Catholic Diocese of Orange and its pedophile-protecting ways (got another bombshell in the cannon–I’m warning you, Brownie), but Orange County’s other Christian yahoo network has had its kiddie-diddling scandals as well–except Calvary Chapel does a much-better job hiding its tracks, signing settlements that remain under seal. I should get to exposing those, and will after I finish a couple of projects, but nice to see others aren’t waiting.In a blockbuster case filed August 9 in Idaho’s First Judicial District Court, four men allege various Calvary Chapel pastors knew they had a
pedophile on their hands when they allowed Anthony Iglesias to continue working for the ministry at their North Country Chapel branch in Idaho, where he abused the men when they were boys. The lawsuit claims that not only did Iglesias get collared for molesting a boy while serving as a youth minister at Calvary Chapel Golden Springs in Diamond Bar, but that his bosses allowed him to go off to Idaho  and allowed him to return to Idaho after molesting boys on a Thailand missionary trip. Paging Bishop Brownie…

The lawsuit, filed by an Idaho law firm but featuring the muscle of Washington lawyer Tim Kosnoff (whose tenacity in going against pedo-protectors of all denominations was just told in a book by my publishing company, Scribner–just found that out while Googling!) combines two separate lawsuits filed against Calvary Chapel accusing them of harboring Iglesias. This one names the Big Calvary in the suit: Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, which is actually in SanTana, and accuses them and North Country Calvary pastor Robert Davis of “negligently, recklessly and/or fraudulently conceal[ing] from the general public, law enforcement, its parishioners, plaintiffs and their parents its knowledge that Iglesias was and is a pedophile, child predator, and child molester.” Kosnoff isn’t asking for much–$10,000 per client, because that’s all that Idaho allows in such cases (a direct byproduct of Brownie’s Idaho days, no doubt) but will try to ask for punitive damages at a later date and is asking for a jury trial.
Iglesias is currently in jail for molesting two other boys in 2003. What did Calvary Chapel founder-head Chuck Smith know about child molesters within his flock, and when?

PDF FILES OF THE ACTUAL LAWSUIT: http://calvarychapelabuse.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/larabee-et-al-v.-costa-mesa-et-al.pdf

Pastor Raul Ries Calvary Chapel Golden Springs (Diamond Bar, CA)

Pastor Bob Davis (North County Idaho Calvary Chapel)

Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, Calvary Chapel Golden Springs, Calvary Chapel North, continue to hold services, teach God’s Word, hold youth events, etc.

Matthew 18:6-11
6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.     ⁷ “Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!   ⁸ “If
your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it
from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire.⁹ If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

   ¹⁰ “See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their angels in heaven continually see the face of My Father who is in heaven.¹¹ [For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.]

Another link of interest: Is Calvary Chapel Head Chuck Smith covering for a Child Beater? via OC WEEKLY

Cindy McCain Supports Gay Marriage Joins NOH8

Cindy McCain, wife of Senator John McCain, and mother to Meghan McCain openly gay daughter, has officially joined the NOH8 campaign.

Aligning yourself with the platform of gay marriage as a Republican still tends to be very stigmatic, but Cindy McCain wanted to participate in the campaign to show people that party doesn’t matter – marriage equality isn’t a Republican issue any more than it is a Democratic issue. It’s about human rights, and everybody being treated equally in the eyes of the law that runs and protects this country.(emphasis mine) Source: NOH8 Campaign.com

NOH8- is read: No hate; meaning that to vote no on Proposition 8, which is a Marriage Protection piece of legislature passed by the people of California to keep marriage a sacred right of men and women, is now called ‘Hate.’ It is “hateful” to desire to keep marriage in it’s pure sense as it is written in the Bible.

Cindy McCain’s advocacy of Gay Marriage is not just a cut to the Conservative Right in the Republican party. We understand clearly that her husband has a long liberal background when it comes to his politics. Her support is rather a moral issue that she is aligning herself with. She is moving beyond the bounds of Politics and condoning a behavior that is abhorrent to the God of the bible. She’s standing behind such a lifestyle and now pushing it on our kids and our community. She clearly is reason why everyone should be careful of blindly supporting a candidate simply because there is an (R) in front of his office.

In 2008 this Proposition created a heated debate in California. Open supporters and heterosexual supporters of Gay Marriage were the only ones I saw acting in a manner of hate. There were protests at Catholic Churches as well as Mormon Temple in CA as those were the people targeted by the Gay community as the source of opposition. The situation got ugly and many people were targeted even personally at their homes for supporting Proposition 8. Some Christian Churches as well that were vocal came under attack by the militant gay groups who feel it is their ‘Right’ to be allowed to marry. In California as in many other states that don’t recognize Gay marriage do have civil unions that are recognized by the respective states, but this is not enough. It’s not enough to have gay marriage legal either as is commented on in a PSA by NOH8…see here:

Marriage is a sacred union of one man and one woman joining together in the face of God the Creator in Holy matrimony. God does not condone or advocate Gay marriage or Homosexuality. The Gay community is saying that the Church and the State must be separate and cannot dictate the union as exclusive. Prophetically speaking, according to the word of God, the abhorrent sexual immorality and acceptance of it in the society will wax worse and worse as the bible predicts. Gay Marriage may very well be “sanctified” by the United States as a whole eventually. However, what the state and the individuals should be aware of is this; the State may permit homosexuals to marry and may recognize it as legal, but that does not change God’s Holy command and the sin of the matter will still be dealt with ultimately in due time. God sent His son to die for the sexual immoral as well, and forgiveness through repentance and salvation are offered to them just as any other sin.

2 Timothy 3:12-13 for full chapter click here

¹² Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

¹³ But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

Romans 1:21-32 For full chapter click here

²¹For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

²²Professing to be wise, they became fools,²³ and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

²⁴ Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.²⁵ For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

²⁶For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,²⁷and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.²⁸And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,²⁹being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,³⁰slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, ³¹without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; ³²and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

Luke 17:26-37  for full chapter click here

²⁶ “And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:

²⁷ they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.

²⁸ “It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;

²⁹ but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. ³⁰ “It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.

³¹ “On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back.

³² “Remember Lot’s wife. ³³ “Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. ³⁴ “I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. ³⁵ “There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left.  ^{36 “}Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.” ³⁷ And answering they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.”

Liberal’s in Love with Cindy’s move:

Alan Colmes of FoxNews Headlines Cindy on ‘Liberal Land’ (his blog)

Huffington Post –liberal’s love this site! don’t even click it! just know it’s there