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Watch out for the “Watchmen” Franklin Graham’s call to the Guillotine

Hey Christian, be prepared for the guillotine. It appears at the last “Watchmen on the Wall” conference Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, beckoned Christians to not be “cowards” and be ready to get one’s head chopped off, and the statement was met with laughter! Here’s a short clip, the full speech will be at the end of the post.

ChristianPost.com Excerpt:

Franklin Graham Calls on Pastors to Speak Out on Abortion, Homosexuality; Says’God Hates Cowards’

By Michael Gryboski , Christian Post Reporter
May 23, 2014|12:53 pm
Franklin Graham (Photo: The Christian Post / Sonny Hong)

Rev. Franklin Graham addressing pastors at the Watchmen on the Wall National Briefing, held at the Hyatt Regency on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC on Thursday, May 22, 2014.

WASHINGTON – The Rev. Franklin Graham told a large gathering of pastors on Thursday to address controversial issues from the pulpit, declaring that “God hates cowards.”

Graham, president and CEO of Samaritan’s Purse and the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, based his remarks on Revelation 21:8, wherein God lists eight groups of people who will be “in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Of groups like murderers, idolaters, unbelievers, and others, the first group of persons listed were the cowardly. It was this first group that Graham focused on for his speech, titled “Standing Strong on the Controversial Issues,” at the Thursday evening session for the 2014 Watchmen on the Wall National Briefing.

“The definition of a coward: a coward will not confront an issue that needs to be confronted due to fear. That is a coward,” said Graham.

“God hates cowards. And the cowards that the Lord is referring to are the men and women who know the truth but refuse to speak it.”

In his remarks at the dinner session, Graham spoke about the need for churches to speak out against abortion and homosexuality, declaring that “you’re not going to shut me up.”

“We have a responsibility to speak on the moral issues. Abortion, homosexuality, these are moral issues. This is a free country, you can do what you want to do but I want you to know it’s a sin against God. This is a sin,” said Graham.

Graham mentioned how he has “friends who are pastors” who say they want to preach the Gospel and not “become targets.”

“Well don’t you think the Lord Jesus Christ was a target?” asked Graham. “Could we get our heads chopped off? We could, maybe one day. So what? Chop it off!”

Source: http://www.christianpost.com/news/franklin-graham-calls-on-pastors-to-speak-out-on-abortion-homosexuality-says-god-hates-cowards-120265/

Franklin Graham’s Magazine: Decision Magazine Cover

decion magazine cover july aug 2014

Franklin Graham originally made this speech at the Watchmen on the Wall conference in Washington, D.C. in May 2014, he went on to continue his theme in his July/August Magazine. Both the FRC who sponsors the Watchmen on the Wall group and Billy Graham’s magazine feature prominent Jesuits within Evangelical circles.

Is Franklin Graham a Jesuit? I don’t know if he is one, I do know he promotes them, speaks with them, and endorses them on his website. Retried General Jerry Boykin is an open Jesuit and he was also at the Watchman on the Wall conference. Boykin is also currently the Vice President of FRC (Family Research Council). Boykin is close with CNP founder Timothy LaHaye and Skip Heitzig (Calvary Chapel).

Another blogger recently wrote about Skip Heitzig and Franklin Graham. It appears Heitzig was making comments about Franklin’s trip to a Catholic Church in Poland. You may read the full article here: Ephesians 511 Blog

The post referenced only seemed to add confirmation to my suspicions that Franklin Graham is acting as a Jesuit, leading the Christian to the guillotine. His comments are not just an exhortation to Pastors and to Christians to be more affirmative with their faith and to “not be cowards” what he’s really doing is double speak. He’s inciting Christians and thus provoking them to stand out to be beheaded. It’s not as obvious to the mundane observer, you have to know how these Jesuits behave and that what they say is always laced with deception.

The real question through all of this is Why would Franklin Graham be priming the Christian community for the guillotine? What gives him the right to instigate people to start a holy jihad? He’s been known for saying inflammable things before relating to Muslims in America. Just like his buddy, Ret. General Jerry Boykin, he’s called the Christian to get ready for “war” and to become “soldiers for Christ.” Is this God talk or is this Jesuit double speak? Jesuits swear oaths to the Pope, they pledge to lie and to mislead any and all denominations for the sake of their “mission.” Right now we have a Jesuit pope who has been meeting vigorously with Evangelicals (friends of Franklin Graham). Boykin is an avowed Jesuit himself, many on the Watchman on the Wall roster are friends with other Jesuits.

Franklin Graham was addressing Pastors and leaders at the Watchmen on the Wall conference, in his magazine he’s addressing Christians. Franklin is not exhorting us to being separate from false teachers or false doctrine, he’s implanting thoughts to stir people in regards to cultural mores that have befallen us. The world is not going to retreat and go back to shunning homosexuality, it’s not going to all of a sudden do a 180 degree turn and eliminate abortion. While Franklin Graham rubs shoulders with Mormons, Catholics, and Church of Christ Christian Cults he’s beckoning you to shout from the rooftops so that you will suffer persecution, but not persecution for holding to the Solid Foundation of Jesus Christ Only (no works, no idols, no pope, no regeneration via baptism for Salvation, no Joseph Smith was a liar and a false prophet). He and Boykin and others are militarizing Christians and getting some ready for persecution for all the wrong reasons. When their boss is the pope it’s no wonder, but you need to be aware of their tricks. Groups like Watchmen on the Wall appeal to a certain group of people who want righteous living, who are conservative, who wish America was back to the good ole’ days, but really what does the Bible tell us about these days? The days will wax worse and worse, there will be a great falling away. The Watchmen on the Wall on their very own website direct Pastors to reach across denominations, to be “bridges,” to connect with others whether or not they have sound doctrine. It’s more gathering together, widening the road to destruction, it’s not the NARROW GATE, it’s not the STRAIGHT PATH. Be warned Christian!

We are given a warning, and an exhortation, by our beloved Savior and Lord Jesus Christ on exactly why and how we will be persecuted. Is this the same warning given by Franklin Graham?

Matthew 10:22 Jesus speaking

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

21And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

24The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

Discernment is not…

Discernment is NOT research.

Discernment is NOT playing a role trying to deceive someone to give you information to fill in a “post” that in its declarative nature is to “warn,” but ends up being gossip and backbiting.

Discernment is NOT in a group of people who agree on a particular hot topic of the day to give the appearance that they are looking out for the flock, when in reality it’s self serving and self seeking to perpetuate the “appearance” of good when it is often really double handed and more misdirection.

Discernment is NOT transferred from one believer to another like a “mantle.”

Discernment is NOT reporting on the obvious.

Discernment is NOT finger pointing.

Discernment is NOT airing dirty laundry.

Discernment is NOT begrudging.

Discernment is NOT blasting away at people and their loved ones for the sake of having hits to a website.

Discernment does NOT cost anything and should not be followed by a “Donate” button.

Discernment does NOT have blogs, does NOT speak at churches all year long, does NOT collect frequent travel miles, does NOT receive “love offerings,” and does NOT have a reputation.

Discernment is NOT in a place or a person, it is NOT limited to a select group or network of people.

Discernment is NOT limited to human understanding.

Discernment is NOT knowing about secret societies and vast conspiracies.

Discernment is NOT a learned technique or one that can be taught.

Discernment is NOT a feeling, not a mystical experience, it’s not an “energy” or an “aura.”

Discernment does NOT gather or heap unto itself teachers and/or followers.

Discernment. It’s the blood that runs through the vein of many blogs lately. I understand the desire and burden to share and want to warn my fellow brethren about the dangers that abound out there in the church today. I grieve over the sorry state of the Church, God’s people, who have fallen away. I can get caught up in the hype just as easily as the next person to butter the term “Discernment” over something that is done in the flesh. I apologize to my readers, and ask you to forgive me for fleshing out and speaking in emotion rather than using a more spiritual method of exhortation. I’m referring to my previous post. The Lord has led me to a place of repentance and I know I went about it the wrong way. I cannot be used of God when my heart spews out anger and bitterness towards my former “Church” (Calvary Chapel). I’ve spent the weeks since my last post seeking His face and His direction. I love my LORD! He’s so forgiving and patient with me. His grace is unyielding and I know HE loves me. I know He loves me when He answers prayer only I know I’ve asked. Like Nathanial whom He saw under the tree, there have been things God pointed to and answered questions that I only asked in my heart. I’ve had questions about this blog, about His people, about my brethren, and His very word and how it applies to me; and lo He answered.

I recently told a friend that every time in the past when I’ve wanted to abandon my blog it was always over the same single reason, I would get in the flesh and get in the way of the work God was doing. I would begin to think the failure of the people to discern was my ineptitude to convey the tragedy and the error of others ways. I became the “acting” Holy Spirit and this is always wrong to do. I’ve never claimed to be a “Discernment” website. I don’t believe there is such a thing. I’m not a “Watchman (woman).” I’m just a geek. I’m a nerd, a dumb sheep, bleating my way through this world as a pilgrim trying to stay focused on my Savior and Lord and wishing things weren’t as bad as they appear, because they do look really bad sometimes from my perspective.

My life isn’t bad. I am truly blessed. I have a beautiful marriage, family, home, and yes, this grubby girl even gets to fellowship with other believers in a strong bible believing church. What do I have to complain about? Nothing. I have good health. My children have good health. I’m not in want of anything! Glory to God! He alone is Good and is the provider of all. So, why revisit such a nasty and painful past as my time in CC, and why revisit what they are up to these days? I have been given that answer. God delivered me out of that place, and I need to let it go completely. I need to stop picking up the topic and giving it credence in my life. My God is big enough, bigger than, the problems in CC; and, my perspective is NOT needed to make a dent in that arena. Yes, there are false teachers there. Yes, there are false ‘discerners’ who give the appearance that they are working to warn others about CC when they really work ‘for‘ CC. It’s not my job to warn you of all that. The Holy Spirit can sort it out without me. Thank God!!! Lol, you may be laughing at me right about now and saying, “wow N4TM is very self-absorbed if she thought she was at all responsible to be the movement’s sole “Warner,” and yes, it is pretty pathetic I agree! I never said I wasn’t pigheaded. I have an ego the size of my insecurities I guess. I would like to move on with my life and although I KNOW there are people who are going to revisit and poke around this website looking through all my previous Calvary Chapel posts to poke holes in my credibility, or some who are on a quest to find out the error of CC; whatever the reason for the concentrated hits to my CC posts, I will not pick the thing up and “go there.” I’m finished with the CC topic. I don’t know what that means for the future of this blog. Do I continue to post on other things? Do I walk away entirely? I don’t have answers for those yet. I know when I started this several years ago I wanted to be led by the Holy Spirit to do whatever He asked of me. Whether that is writing here or doing things in real life for His Kingdom than so be it. I’d love to be a sow-and-so. Meaning, to “sow” God’s word and not be known for doing it (so-and-so). We’ll see how the Lord leads. For now, I would like to tell you as far as I know:

Discernment IS knowing God’s word.

Discernment IS knowing the difference between good and evil by using God’s Word, His Doctrine ,as the guideline.

Discernment IS the work of the Holy Spirit in us given to us by the Holy Spirit alone and points back to God’s commandments, statutes, and His wonderful hand of Mercy and Love, that cannot be imitated by anyone else!

1 Cor 12

10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Proverbs 9:10

Colossians 2

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:12-14

Church of Christ joins Calvary Chapel via Duck Commander & Greg Laurie this past Harvest 2013

Duck Commander at Harvest Crusade 2013 tweet picMany of my readers know that I’ve written my fair share of warnings against Calvary Chapel and specifically Greg Laurie’s compromised crusade, Harvest Crusade. What I didn’t know, because I do not stalk the Christian Cult I left once I left it I stay far removed from their shenanigans, is that the Duck Commander was at Greg’s “show” this past August 2013.

I was checking my stats and saw a ‘reference’ site and clicked on it. This particular blog posted a video of Greg Laurie interviewing the “Duck Commander” (that’s not patriarchal at all). Once I clicked the YouTube video it opened up a can of worms and I sat through and watched the presentation Phil Robertson, elder at White’s Ferry Road Church, gave at the Harvest Crusade in California. I watched all 26+ minutes of it and I am going to post it here for your discerning viewing.

First things first; I have to stress this because there are some people who don’t understand my lingo or my style of writing, recently I learned that Mr. Robertson is presenting a FALSE gospel. Mr. Robertson is of the flair, Church of Christ, and they teach and preach “Baptismal Regeneration” as –essential– for salvation. Thank God someone tipped me off to this fact. I hope that the majority of my readers know by now to differentiate between truth and those who are false yet are correctly quoting God’s word.

I am posting the video of Phil Robertson today, not to endorse him or say he’s saying truth, but rather in light of learning what Baptismal Regeneration is, he clearly presents his false doctrine at the Harvest Crusade. He also presents another false doctrine in the middle of his “evangelism;” and that is, he says that ‘we’ are born “sinless.” I will give my notes following the YouTube video.

Phil Robertson is an Elder at White’s Ferry Road Church, it is a Church of Christ denomination (Christian Cult). A Christian Cult is a church/denomination/movement that proclaims Christ Jesus as their savior, however, they twist the scripture and then either add works based salvation, and/or misrepresent Doctrinal Truths. (I’m not a theologian. I’m not versed in all things Church of Christ. I am presenting to you what I’ve learned so far and sharing with you that Mr. Robertson is being embraced by the Christian community as a “brother” in Christ however he is clearly teaching against God’s word. You must use your God given discernment, and check his doctrinal statements against the Bible.)

Here is a link to a Church of Christ church that addresses WHY they believe that all men are born SINLESS. *not an endorsement http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2006/12-17.htm

Phil Robertson’s church also advocates that Baptism is ESSENTIAL for regeneration. This is adding works to the work of Faith alone. I’ve addressed this in my previous post on the recent fiasco of Phil Robertson’s GQ interview that led to a nationwide anger towards Christians who believe that God’s Word declares homosexuality as a sin. You can review the information I provided there for sources on White’s Ferry Road Church teaching this false doctrine.

Within the first few minutes Phil Robertson alludes to his belief in Baptismal Regeneration, Minute 4:50- a few minutes. He also ends with his stress of Baptism around 22 minute marker for a few minutes before his ending prayer.

If you don’t know what “Baptismal Regeneration” is then you’d easily miss his comment. Look it up.

As I mentioned in the text above Phil Robertson in the middle of his presentation falsely teaches that all men are born SINLESS. This is against God’s word that states we are born sinners. This is part of Adam’s curse on us that we are all born apart from Christ. The Mormon Christian Cult also likes to teach that we are born sinless and thus they introduce further doctrinal false teachings. Minute marker 14:20 through 15:04 give or take a second, Phil Robertson states the following:

“You came from your mother, you are sinless. You know why? You didn’t know what the law said. You didn’t know what lying was & stealing, immorality, your this long out of your mother (wahhh) you want a lil milk, you say, ‘to young to know what the law said.’ However; you got a lil toddler–no problem, a lil kid–no problem, but you came to a point and you found out the same thing I did, “I know this isn’t right,” but what did you do, the same thing I did, you made a mistake, you broke God’s Law.”– Phil Robertson, the Duck Commander, at Harvest 2013

Why is Phil Robertson’s comments at Greg Laurie’s Harvest 2013 important?

Because Greg Laurie is now defending Phil Robertson over the GQ interview statements.

http://blog.pe.com/multicultural-empire/2013/12/20/duck-dynasty-greg-laurie-weighs-in-on-controversy/

Rev. Greg Laurie, senior pastor of Riverside’s Harvest Christian Fellowship, wrote a blog defending Phil Robertson, the patriarch of the hit reality-TV show “Duck Dynasty” who was suspended for comments he made about gays and lesbians.

“A plain-spoken follower of Jesus is now ‘in trouble’ for speaking his mind, and more specifically, for holding to a position that is taught in Scripture…,” Laurie wrote. “What is being asked of us is not tolerance, but acceptance and endorsement of sin. We cannot do that. We believe in God, the Creator and designer of the world and all of its creatures. We believe He has provided, as the Bible teaches, an intended design for sex and marriage. We choose to hold to that, while being tolerant of those who choose to disregard it. We stand with Scripture on the topic of homosexuality and every other sin the Bible speaks of.”

Robertson, who called homosexual behavior sinful and compared it to bestiality, appeared with Laurie at the August Harvest Crusades in Anaheim. Laurie’s blog includes an interview he had with Robertson.” Source Press Enterprise

From Greg’s Blog Post:

“I don’t know how stressed Phil is about this. He’s probably out duck hunting.

It seems to me that some people who talk the most about tolerance are the most intolerant toward anyone who dares to disagree with their views.

As Christians, we are not wanting to force our views on anyone. The fact is, we are, as a whole, tolerant of other people’s choices, even if we don’t agree with them. But what is being asked of us is not tolerance, but acceptance and endorsement of sin.

We cannot do that.

We believe in God, the Creator and designer of the world and all of its creatures. We believe He has provided, as the Bible teaches, an intended design for sex and marriage. We choose to hold to that, while being tolerant of those who choose to disregard it.
We stand with Scripture on the topic of homosexuality and every other sin the Bible speaks of.

And we will continue to tolerate and even love those that disagree with us. It would be nice if that were a two-way street.” End of Quote

Link *not an endorsement http://blog.greglaurie.com/?p=9371&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+greglaurie+%28Greg%27s+Blog%29

Greg Laurie is notorious for having ZERO discernment. He yokes with the worst of them, so his company with Phil Robertson of the Church of Christ and the blanket support he offers from Calvary Chapel of which Greg’s Harvest Church is affiliated doesn’t surprise me. It is not a shock; however, although it feels like I’m beating a dead horse with the same old news that Greg and this type of false teaching goes out in full force via the Calvary Chapel Pyramidal clan of churches, it still needs to be said. Obviously the market for lifting up men instead of God’s REAL Word hasn’t waned; and as long as God leads me to share (warn) about this stuff, I will continue to be obedient to Him. If none else, learn more about Phil Robertson’s false gospel and warn those closest to you that this man is presenting a false gospel and teaching false doctrine. What those people do with the information is their own issue.


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The New CC “Moses” is…

brian-brodersen taking Chuck Smith Sr place at Cc

Brian Brodersen Officially Takes Senior Pastor Role at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa; Position Held by Chuck Smith- via Christian Post

Calvary Chapel governs with “The Moses’ Model,” and yes, you’re correct that’s not biblical.

http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/13146667/Moses-Principle

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/calvary-chapels-ungodly-seat-of-moses-government-continues-unabated/

WE BELIEVE that the church government should be simplistic rather than a complex bureaucracy, and we depend on the Holy Spirit to lead, rather than on fleshly promotion. We recognize there are various biblical models for governing a local church body; however, we follow the biblical model of a pastor-led church as demonstrated by God’s leading the nation of Israel through Moses, and by Christ leading His flock through pastors of the early church.” Source Calvary Chapel Distinctives

http://www.cccary.org/index.php/our-beliefs/distinctives

7And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:7-12

 

 

 

Billy Graham’s final Sermon: The Cross **not an Endorsement of Billy Graham

Let me start by saying:

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:”

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15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 16And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.” i John 4:2 and 15

I do not have a bit of admiration for Billy Graham. I  have never watched him preach on tv or elsewhere. I’ve never listened to his old sermons. I know who he is; he is a registered Democrat, a liberal pastor who has preached to millions of people and several US presidents. I know that Billy Graham once stated that there were/are many paths to God and in doing so pluralized God and widened the Ecumenical road to hell. I know that there is high speculation that Billy Graham is/was a Mason. I know that Billy Graham has revered a few Pontiffs which is again in my view heretical and ecumenical. Billy Graham is highly influential in Crusade evangelism and hence grew close to the Calvary Chapel movement and many pastors in Calvary Chapel. I know that every time I hear “Billy Graham” referenced in church (and it’s happened at every church (and one women’s retreat) I’ve ever attended, often if not every time in a positive) I cringe and can only think of the detriment he’s caused. Stating all this, admitting my bias against Billy Graham, I still wanted to watch this ‘show’ to hear what he had to say for his last public sermon. I am after all a wannabe journalist, someone who seeks to provide the news story whether I agree or not, but I’m also a very biased blogger and I have the right to also state my perspective.

Thus I set out and I watched the above Youtube video. I did not watch the show that aired on who knows what channel so if this thing was longer I am unaware.

Setting the obvious aside Billy Graham presented the Gospel of Jesus Christ without deviation and both of the personal testimonies did as well. (not yet getting to the gritty bits and pieces of where some of these people hang their hats–wait for it people)

I’ve gotten a lot of comments condemning me for exposing things about Calvary Chapel and Chuck Smith et.al., and I’ve been wanting to write a piece in response to that issue; however, I’m still thinking about it. For now some of what I would have said in regards to Mr. Smith can be applied to Mr. Graham as well. Is Billy Graham my brother in Christ? Is he a false prophet, a false professor, a heretic? I bid you revisit 1 John 4:2 and 15. I’ll let you think about that one. If he is my brother I’m told I must love him as a brother in Christ:

20If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. 1 John 4:20

I do love God. I do not hate my brother(n) or my sisters in Christ.  I love those who are completely and totally saved-born again-regenerate people but don’t look like me or fit the mold I think they should. I love even those who are in Christian cults (like Calvary Chapel) where Christ is preached and the Gospel proclaimed; and although some are saved, they are then fed false doctrines, teachings, and teachers . Prayerfully as they grow in Christ and read His word they will see and hear and get discernment and leave. I love my brothers and sisters at Calvary Chapels all across this planet. Is that clear enough?

I will go a step further than that, and say, “I also love my enemies.” Yes, I love my enemies. My God also commands me, beside loving my brothers and sisters in Christ, I must also love my enemies who seek to destroy me.

38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” Matthew 5:38-48

If Billy Graham, Lecrae, and Lacey Sturm (Flyleaf lead singer) are all not saved and they are lost, then I must love them anyway.

I watched the video, knowing a few things about Billy Graham (and a tiny bit about Lecrae’s background); although I didn’t know who “Lacey Sturm” was at first I know a little about ‘Flyleaf'; and as I watched the video, I tried to focus on what they were saying instead of my preconceived judgment calls. I could identify with both personal testimonies. I was saved from a lot, delivered from many of the same sins, and my growing up was not safe and cushy in a church culture it was the street of hard knocks, a dark place that God rescued me from. I could empathize with their testimonies. I heard clearly sinners who were saved by recognizing that they are sinners and they sounded like repentance was present, praise God. What I don’t understand is how someone can meet a great and Holy God and continue to look so dark and continue to stay in that dark lifestyle, propping up images of death and symbols reserved for Satan’s minions. Despite my coming from a “liberal, evangelical, non-denominational” church at my beginnings, I was still impressed that yes, God makes all things new and the old man (in my case the old chick who sinned without conviction) is now a new creature; and I put off the old things, and that included my dress, my music, and my paraphernalia. Perhaps I was pendulum swinging, and I went full throttle into being a “Christian” both on the inside and on the outside, but that’s what God did in my life. Over the years I’ve learned to let go of my Pharisaical ways but now I’m just old and dogmatic about things because I’m older and dogmatic about things.

For instance, how do you justify this:

Lacey Strum Flyleaf concert with whosoevers 2012lacey Strum with the Whosoevers

whosoevers junk

A picture is worth 1,000 words they say, so I’ll let these images do their own speaking.

I get that not everyone can receive the message of Christ from a pew, in a clean sterilized “sin-free” zone. I mean really, there is no such place. I trust that God can call His own in unique ways and when He does it’s always a miracle. I heard the gospel at Calvary Chapel for goodness sakes, my salvation is true and real, I didn’t lose my salvation when I walked out of the dove laden doors. I didn’t have to get saved again; because as I grew in Christ I grew up to an understanding that there were deep rooted false teachers in the system that is Calvary (Chapel), and I most certainly don’t think that everyone who gets saved has to look like me, or talk like me. I’m not better than any of my fellow Christians.

I do think however that Satan likes to keep people chained to darkness although they have had encounters with the light. I do believe children (state of maturity in Christ) need to grow up and get out of feeling the need to prop up pop culture within the church body and show the next generation how to become mature Christians. Getting tattoos and wearing Satanic symbols is not going to preach the Gospel of Christ to the heathen, it only encourages them to stay as they are. Calvary Chapel used a mantra back in the day, I’m not sure if they still say this, “Come as you are,” but that was never a license to stay in a permanent state of defilement!

That young lady Lacey had a beautiful story of redemption. I was impressed by her 180 degree turn to a loving God and recognizing that she was “so not good.” Then as I pieced together that this was the same head singer of fly leaf I was thinking, why does she continue to look so dark and sad and stuck in bondage? Why put on the cloak of all the emotional baggage she claims God delivered her from? I don’t get it, but maybe that’s good.

I scrolled through images of her and noticed that her tattoos change and appear and disappear in different photos. Is it merely an image, a facade, acting? Certainly she was dramatic in the Billy Graham video and she apparently is very often emotional. (fruit of self control?) The hanging of the hat with elk like “The Whosoevers?” I think there’s a verse about bad company corrupting good morals. The Whosoevers emblems are down right demonic and another blogger has written sufficient enough about them that I don’t have to reinvent the wheel.

See here. http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-whosoevers-christian-band-and-their.html (and there are much more on the same site)

If this is Billy Graham’s last sermon, extracting what his company said and who they are, the message of what Christ did for us on the Cross is true. It’s a shame that you have to muck through all this other stuff. The unsaved person wouldn’t know a lick about Flyleaf, or Lacey Sturm, or understand or question Lecrae’s emblem on his shirt in this piece. The lost person won’t understand why a supposed Christian Pastor who proclaims Jesus Christ alone is shown shaking hands with the Pope (Paul ll now deceased), or ever heard that Billy Graham once stated “All roads lead to Heaven.”

If this is all the sinner saw and heard, I pray they heard the Gospel, the Word of God that was strategically interwoven through the mud and that God’s two edged sword, His word, His love penetrated through the marrow and the despair and saved a soul. Jesus Christ does want to save the Lost, to redeem the cold hearted sinner and give new life to people who are dead in their trespasses. Get to the Cross of Calvary, meet Jesus, know that he died for you, but he’s not dead; He’s ALIVE! He’s risen! He makes intercession for you. He wants to change all of you in a dramatic way and He can if you allow Him. All this other stuff, the crazy tatt’d up Christians the ones who continue to cry in misery, don’t look to them, look to a victorious Lord and Savior. Learn about who He is from His word.

Articles of interest:

Billy Graham Is No Longer Saying Mormonism Is a Cult For Some Reason- source Slate.com

Billy Graham’s Website Removes Mormons from Cult Page, After Graham Endorses Mitt Romney- source Opposing Views.com

Billy Graham Magazine: Mormons Aren’t Christians- Source Talk to Action

Loving the sinner, the lost, and the misdirected saved born again Christian is not the same as saying the lost unregenerate Christ denier can get to heaven. Saying I love my brothers and sisters in Christ doesn’t translate to me endeavoring with them in their false teachings. Love is not license to love them to hell, which is what we do if we do not tell them that there is Only One Way to God the Father and that is through Jesus Christ LORD and Savior. So then, this message of Billy Graham above is not the same as what he’s said in the past:

http://youtu.be/-gtR8rp4ozw  Billy Graham says all roads lead to Heaven, even non-believers. That is not the gospel message that is ecumenical at best heretical at worst. It’s a lie from the pit of hell. Did Billy Graham change his tune, back toward a solid gospel?  Or is he merely trying to redeem his missteps and false teachings? I don’t have the answer to that.

I do know that Christ warned us of false teachers, rising from among ‘us.’ We are to know them, to recognize them, and know our Bible enough to rebuke false teachings when we hear them.

The More Things Change, The More They Stay the Same.

I left a cult called Calvary Chapel. I know many people who attend Calvary Chapel and don’t see it as a cult and rightly so, they probably don’t invest much time at church or serve or know the ins and outs of the creation of the church, its church history, or care to know more than what they hear on Sunday morning. And to those who stay ignorant, more power to you, that’s how to stay solely focused on Christ and not let church politics, liars, and false teaching get in the way of your “relationship” with Christ. Although, there has been a lot to be said about knowing the actual Word of God versus depending on what men from the pulpit teach, but I digress.

I wanted to be done with the “Calvary Chapel” topic! Oh so bad, you have no idea how many times I’ve cremated the past and yet there it is before my eyes, regenerated and lurking about my mind! It doesn’t help when my past ‘adventures’ in CC and learning all the things I did there come back to life in another church I’m attending. Hence, the title of this blog post, “The more things change (attending a completely different type of church than CC), The More They Stay The Same (undiscerning people, holding up men, using false teachers as a source, etc!!).” In many respects the church I’ve been attending for the past year is very much like the CC church. They are both “Movements,” they both are dispensationalist, pre-trib, “Conservative,” Bible believing, Bible teaching, churches. One is more extremely antiquated; they are KJV only, they would prefer women to wear burqas, and there will never be a drum beat, bass guitar, or rhythm in the worship-ever.

Boykin don JesuitSo, what’s got me in an exegetical conniption fit this morning?  Jesuit, retired general William “Gerry” Boykin, was used as a source this past mid-week service. I guess I should have known when the assistant pastor the first time I was there quoted St. Francis of Assisi that this subject matter was bound to come up! But Boykin? Really? Boykin makes no apologies appearing on Morning Star (Rick Joyner–another open Jesuit/Christian) or the Oak Initiative. Boykin is EMBRACED by Calvary Chapel, a “cult” clearly identifiable to the current church I’m attending. How is it that this flaming liar of a man is quoted? Because men love men; and I don’t mean in a homosexual way here, I’m saying “men,” ie Human nature, love “men,” to lift up other men of renown as if it makes them sound more knowledgeable or important. It was the folly of Calvary Chapel and it appears to be a hazard everywhere. When I first started attending the current church I’m attending I saw its mentality for all things holy and pure to be appealing. The longer I am there the more the reality of what is really going on there shows and it’s ok, I get it, people are people, and the church is not perfect, the people at the church are not perfect, and I know I will never be perfect and hence I brought all my issues with me when I began attending there, so if it was the perfect church a year prior, because of my presence alone it is now tainted. I’m not ignorant or delusional that there is a church without its issues. I really truly wanted to settle down, invest in a place for my children to grow up hearing the word of God. I cannot imagine what moving churches has already done to my kids. We’ve moved out of two Calvary Chapels, then one other non-Calvary Chapel, before this one that we are currently attending.

I did what any pig headed recovering Calvary Chapel person would do, I let the pastor know that “General William Boykin is a Jesuit.”

I know, wrong move, I should have just shut my trap and nodded and said an amen or something but I couldn’t! I have seen too much, I know too much. This lil church should be spared from the infiltration of this Jesuit Psy-op false teacher!!! But you know what, the more things change, the more they stay the same. I will tell you that I don not think the information I gave was received, (it was read and replied to but it was not “received”) or appreciated. I believe it fell on deaf ears and that my meddling was not fruitful.

What do I do now? Once again I’m made aware that false teachers are to a degree “accepted” and that my big mouth hasn’t learned to let things be. I have once again tried to warn the pastor to be met with obstinence. I don’t want to abandon corporate worship. I don’t want to be hunkered down alone with my family and not interacting with other Christians. Maybe Jesuits are ok when they are Christians? Maybe Jesuits are ok when they are decorated war veterans, generals, businessmen, government employees, Senators, presidential candidates? Jesuits make an oath to the Pope and the “Mother Church” (Catholicism) correct? I guess it’s no matter if the person taking the oath is a supposed “Christian,” right? Why are some Jesuits like the Pope not okay, but others are? I must be dumb as a rock to not understand the absolute double mindedness of this? So, if Jesuits are ok, what’s wrong with a stringed instrument? huh?

Posts by N4TM on Boykin and his Jesuitism, and others’ Jesuitism…

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/jesuits-are-good-christians-are-evil/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/politricks/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-craft/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/jesuits-begt-jesuits-norman-geisler-veritas-calvary-chapel-bible-college/

** this most recent article addressed by N4TM and why I believe Boykin to be a liar and a conspirator: http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2013/06/14/jesuit-general-william-jerry-boykin-outs-his-fellow-conspirators-brigitte-gabriel-and-allen-west/

Outside N4TM:

The Holy Warrior- CBS covers Boykin’s remarks and new employment speaking at Christian Churches in uniform.

US general ‘censured’ for remarks- BBC covers Boykin’s remarks

read-save- the Department Of Ddefence report of General William Boykin: http://www.dodig.mil/FOIA/ERR/h03l89967206.pdf

screenshot boykin dod report 08.05.2004The DOD once found Lt. General William “Gerry” Boykin guilty of misconduct but I submit that it has been to the government’s advantage to have a psy-op commander in the churches disseminating “news” that serves their agenda. When one door closed for Boykin, another opened very widely.

“I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.” 1 John 2:21

For the record, there is another Retired General, Peter Pace, who is also a Jesuit.

Gen Peter Pace retired Jesuit

Marine Gen. Peter Pace (Ret.) began his military service as a platoon leader in Vietnam and ended as principal military advisor to the president of the United States before retiring from the Marine Corps in 2007. Born in Brooklyn and raised in Teaneck, N.J., he earned his commission at the U.S. Naval Academy, later serving as deputy commander of Joint Task Force Somalia and commander in chief of the U.S. Southern Command. He served as vice chairman and then as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the first Marine to serve in either position. In June 2008, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor the president of the United States can bestow.

Gen. Pace holds an M.B.A. from George Washington University and serves on the advisory council for Fordham’s Graduate School of Business Administration. He supports charities including serving as chairman of the board for Wall Street Warfighters Foundation, an organization that provides training, support and job placement services for disabled veterans interested in careers in financial services.

Founded in 1841, Fordham is the Jesuit University of New York, offering exceptional education distinguished bythe Jesuit tradition to approximately 14,700 students in its four undergraduate colleges and its sixgraduate and professional schools. It has residential campuses in the Bronx and Manhattan, a campus in Westchester, the Louis Calder Center Biological Field Station in Armonk, N.Y., and the London Centre at Heythrop College in the United Kingdom.
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Source: http://www.fordham.edu/Campus_Resources/eNewsroom/topstories_2111.asp

Also: The link that was here has been removed thanks to a reader who alerted me that the blogger who posted the link of a list of Jesuit trained people is a little “off” to say the least. You don’t need his link to discover who’s a Jesuit. You can do your own google search if you suspect someone of being a Jesuit and find plenty of site sources for yourself.  Any cached link of this post will have the removed link, or if you have an email alert of posts it’ll be there-Disregard such a link as “proof.” Also, since I haven’t stated Emphatically Enough–NO LINK IS EVER AN ENDORSEMENT BY N4TM even 100% verifiable links like Reuters-AP-etc of “news” but more especially blog links. once again– LINKS ARE NEVER AN ENDORSEMENT. thanks, N4TM

!!:-) praise report!
God is so awesome. He is even though I thought this was one more time things were dismissed. I just got a second reply from the pastor; because of course I had to reply to the first reply. Here is the latest update: I replied with clarification that Mr. Boykin is a professing Christian (not a Catholic which he was under the impression of upon my disclosure that he is a Jesuit) and he expressed concern and shock. He encouraged me to not “be sorry” (which I stated I was for bringing up the topic) and stated this (Boykin’s ties to Baptist churches and non denominations) are troublesome and point to the days we are living in. :-) Glory to God! I had hoped for at least that much that the message would be in the least received and considered and it sounds like it has. Good news. I’m sure there will be more opportunities as that is inevitable because Satan never stops trying to stumble people. For today at least I can report that this situation shows promise. I know only the Holy Spirit can reveal and today’s lesson has encouraged me, that maybe the Lord is using me :-)

 

**UPDATE**

Rick Joyner, fellow Jesuit, co laborer with Ret. General William Gerry Boykin, has recently stated that the US (White house government under Obama) needs to be taken over militarily.

Click Here for the full Article and video of Rick Joyner making these statements of his own will: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/christian-tv-host-asks-god-military-takeover

I saw an article over at GalatiansFourblogspot which tipped me off: here is link to that post: http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2013/10/nwo-knights-of-malta-rick-joyner-our.html

Fake Pastor arrested for Preaching ‘Not Guilty’ of Misdemeanor charge Hemet,CA Calvary Chapel related

chp arrested mark mackeyI reported on this “Pastor” (preacher) who was arrested in Hemet, California for preaching to a group of people at the local DMV. Mark Allen Mackey and Brett Coronado are the two individuals who were “arrested” back in February of 2011. They were arrested because they had been forewarned that they needed to comply with the law and get a permit to preach at the DMV and the Courthouse (another spot they liked to hold their “Evangelism.”) Both refused to seek a permit and knew that every time they went to these places they were soon to be arrested for their actions. They were warned and knew arrest was a possibility so much so that they brought their camera to the preaching sessions so that they could capture their “arrest” video and cry foul.

“Not Guilty” says Judge.

“A judge acquitted two preachers of a misdemeanor criminal charge that was filed against them after their religious efforts at the Hemet DMV in 2011 ended in their arrest on suspicion of holding a demonstration on state property without a permit. Superior Court Judge Tim Freer found Brett Anthony Coronado and Mark Allen Mackey not guilty of the charge Tuesday, Aug. 13.” Source: Press Enterprise

My headline for this post correctly states, “Fake Pastor arrested,” because neither one of these men were pastors at the time of their arrest. Well, in Calvary Chapel circles they probably were considered a “Pastor” since they can deem anyone a Pastor. Semantics aside, only Brett Coronado had the position of Assistant Pastor at one time, the other, Mark Allen Mackey was never a “Pastor.” They both had been released by their senior pastor, Gary Johnson, the real senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Hemet who was not involved in this charade.

“According to the Press Enterprise who quoted Gary Johnson, the real senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Hemet, Gary had this to say about his two “former” brothers;

CHP Officer Darren Meyer, who made the arrest, said the group was warned repeatedly that they needed a permit leading up to the day they were arrested without warning.

Coronado and Mackey are no longer part of Calvary Chapel Church in Hemet. They have formed their own church, Reconciled Fellowship, said Calvary Chapel Pastor Gary Johnson.

Johnson said in an email that the men had almost been arrested several times prior to the incident and knew they needed a permit prior to going to the DMV.

“I had been attempting to temper their style of evangelism,” Johnson said. “They revolted at the idea that they were wrong and eventually left the church …” Source: N4TM original post on this story.

Persecution.org tweeting propagandaThe other day I saw this tweet by Persecution.org. They tweeted this story as if it happened yesterday. The arrests were in 2011. These men were not sitting in prison or even jail, they were charged with a misdemeanor and that was the end of it. They probably wanted to be persecuted, they perhaps wanted to have a greater story to tell, but the Judge did well in not obliging them with any more attention than they already sucked dry. *note the comments to that tweet, already 70 had RT’d it and others buying the lie that this is a persecution story! Sheesh, people, get a critical thinking cap.

In my opinion these men knew they would be arrested because they knew the consequences for preaching to a captive audience without a lawful permit. It is my opinion that they wanted to be arrested. They were trying to put a fledgling new church together called, Reconciled Christian Fellowship, they were just coming out of Calvary Chapel, and needed attention. I don’t know what happened to their strip mall church meeting. I’m sure if they’re not there, they are somewhere trying to start a church rather than get a job and make an honest living. Not all men who say they are Pastors are truly pastors. How do these men represent Christ by disobeying the law of the land, by conning people for money to handle their “legal fees” when they brought on the trouble to themselves? This is what gives people a distaste for Christianity and Christians. It’s sad when the gospel of Jesus Christ is treated like this.

If you’re not saved; if you’re not walking with the Lord as you read this post, I pray you don’t get swayed to think that all Christians are like Mackey and Coronado. Look to Jesus in His word and read how He taught others and brought them to the truth. Don’t let the sins and folly of these men keep you from truly knowing Jesus Christ.

To the brethren, we may be persecuted soon enough, we don’t need to lift these two guys up and claim they are suffering “religious persecution” when they are not. There is a real enemy out there who seeks to devour and our time of freedom to share the gospel may be coming to an end, and that should make us all the more diligent to represent Christ righteously not foolishly.

Murrieta Patch- http://murrieta.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/men-arrested-for-reading-bible-at-dmv-acquitted

Pandering to the Christians, Persecution.Org story- http://www.persecution.org/2013/08/09/california-pastor-prosecuted-for-reading-bible-in-public-goes-to-trial/

January 2012- Hearing postponed- Murrieta Patch- http://murrieta.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/hearing-postponed-for-evangelists-accused-of-preachinb5f9fe87af

March 2012 Article on these guys from Press Enterprise- http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/hemet/hemet-headlines-index/20120329-hemet-city-launches-defense-in-dmv-demonstration.ece

You can’t spell Faux without FOX! Here’s how the National Main Stream Media spread the fake story through Foxnews of course- http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/29/taking-liberties-arrested-for-reading-bible/