Things have gotten to a whole new level of weirdness. Without having the time to explain, I simply ask you to not believe Glenn Beck and his new level of insanity. Reader, please be careful. Test all things.
Here’s an update on why I posted this latest warning on Glenn Beck. I saw several tweets this afternoon by BeckBots (my term for those who follow Glenn Beck blindly and defend him vehemently) that Glenn Beck is Warning Barack Obama to tell the truth to the public or ‘he’ (Glenn Beck) will. There is a WND (World Net Daily) article that is helping in this propaganda. I just viewed this YouTube video posted by Right Wing Media:
I don’t know exactly what Glenn Beck is trying to do, but he has a lot of followers who follow everything he says without any consideration for whom Glenn Beck really serves. I’ve warned extensively about Glenn Beck and that Christians should stop listening to him. Glenn Beck is a liar and a deceiver and he’s been leading Christians away from the truth. Beck is serving Mammon, he worships a false christ, and he is deceiving many for an even greater evil than his belly. If Glenn is being used to stir the American people into a frenzy of false information he would certainly qualify as a useful idiot for the role. He’s revered enough to instigate a civil disruption, of which would only serve Obama’s purposes. I don’t for a second believe Glenn Beck is on the side of “Truth” or the “American Way.” Here is the WND article: click here. I do not endorse WND, the founders of WND are connected to CNP and Jesuits. Beck has hosted Jesuit, Ret. General William Gerry Boykin. There appears to be a severe spiritual purpose behind these latest actions. I caution those who claim to be born again Christians who follow Glenn Beck to test him and his motives. We are not to believe every spirit but we should be testing them to see if they are truly followers of Christ. One key consideration, who is the author of Confusion? Is Glenn Beck causing confusion and hysteria? He keeps his readers and listeners in a constant state of frenzy and hopelessness as though impending doom lurks around every corner, is that Christ-like?
While most of the Catholic world is waiting with abated breath for a new Pope to be chosen the Non-Denominational Ecumenical world still has their “Papa” (Pope); that is, Chuck Smith Sr of Calvary Chapel. Calvary Chapel spawned a blend of Charismatic Conservative type church movement after its stint as an Ecumenical playground for lost hippies during the 70′s. Chuck Smith Sr. dubbed as the founder of the hippie church, aka, “Jesus People Movement.” Although, Chuck was not the source of the growth it was rather his protegee, active homosexual, Lonnie Frisbee. Years later Calvary Chapel Movement cast off it’s more hyper-charismatic days in return for a yuppie style church that aimed to minister to it’s booming youth driven and modern centered style of worship. Chuck Smith Sr, a former Four-Square church pastor and child of a four-square pastor, found himself surrounded by young men who would continue to grow his movement. One notable young pastor was Greg Laurie. Greg was mentored by Lonnie Frisbee for a time and then later assumed a close relationship to another young up and coming soon-to-be mega pastor, Rick Warren. How do I know that Rick Warren has known Greg Laurie for decades? Rick Warren said so in an interview backstage of the Harvest Crusade in 2009.
What’s Wrong with Rick Warren he’s a philanthropist, a Pastor, a humanitarian!?
Rick Warren has notoriously misrepresented the bible, the actual scriptures. All this hoopla against Rick Warren started (as far as I personally remember) back in the early 2000′s with his book “The Purpose Driven Life.” When I was in CA attending a CC the women’s bible study group was going through the very book by Rick Warren. We never completed the study, which I was happy to end, because a certain man named Roger Oakland had warned “Papa” Chuck Smith about the many errors in the book and showed Rick Warren to be highly ecumenical in his theology. Oakland and others who make a living off of warning church goers against doctrinally unsound teachers all rallied with Oakland against Rick Warren, eventually “Papa” Chuck had no place to go but heed the warning and issue a Papal decree letter to all Calvary Chapel Pastors that the theology of Rick Warren was not biblical and his type of Christianity would not could not be endorsed at that time. This letter was issued in 2006 and was called, Parsons to Parsons, good like finding it. I didn’t need “Roger Oakland” to tell me that Rick Warren was off the mark scripturally. I could see Rick Warren’s misuse of scripture for myself when we (the ladies of the CC in CA) were doing that study. He misused scriptures, he took them out of context and distorted them to get his point across. It wasn’t until years later that I learned more about his “purpose” to redesign churches and move them away from teaching biblically sound doctrine to a quasi-motto-feel good don’t preach real doctrinal truths about God’s law and my sin, type of churches. [I've written extensively on Rick Warren and Chuck Smith use the search bar to the right.]
Today’s non Breaking News, the latest conglomeration of Smith and Warren has to do with this appearance on Pastor’s Perspective:
On a strange side note I found this post at Light House Trails: click image to enlarge
This post was not a “Statement” against the pairing, it was only a letter to the editor that was posted and then all of Roger Oakland’s posts related to his withdrawal from Calvary Chapel were listed with it. So officially it does not look like Light House Trails has said anything against Chuck Smith Sr for continuing to minister along side Rick Warren. They (LHT) are simply acknowledging that they know by showing this photo of the two. What do Roger Oakland’s posts have to do with Rick Warren and Chuck Smith continuing to work together? Roger Oakland never came out after the Embrace of 2009 and said, “Chuck Smith Senior, stop hanging out with Rick Warren!” or “Church, Look, Rick Warren The Compromised is imbedded into Calvary Chapel, get out now!” Roger Oakland never said anything of the sort in 2009, nor did any of his then compatriots of the Prophecy Speaking Circuit.
But N4TM, Didn’t Lighthouse Trails publish your post, “Woe,” on Chuck Smith and Rick Warren joining up in 2009?
Yes. Back in those days just after the Embrace of 2009 I waited patiently for all the famous “Men of God” who had warned me against Rick Warren to take to their bully pulpits and say something, anything, about Chuck Smith Sr. endorsing Rick Warren at the Harvest Crusade of 2009. No one spoke up, not one. I read nothing from Herescope, LHT, Hope for Today, Be Alert, UTT, etc. I waited for the respected “elders” of the group to say something and no one did. I was outraged at the silence so I spoke up. I had literally no one frequenting my blog at the time and it was only because I had a friend who knew the editors at LHT that my article got the small attention it did back then. It was quickly buried into the back of the closet, the article title changed, and more attention was given to a friend of Chuck’s who wrote a more politically correct “letter of concern” after my letter that was much more forward. It’s easy to erase history in the digital world of blogging.
*As a tip to readers who are truly trying to find the truth and have to muddle their way through various “Discernment” blogs always look for who the site endorses not just who they warn against and see if they are not compromised themselves. It is very possible to have ACME Discernment crew warning the church about Post-Modern, Emergent, New Age, Jewish Mysticism, and then by the same token they are endorsing their “authors” or “speakers” who go to churches who endorse the very doctrines they are supposedly warning you about. It’s a catch 22, no doubt and very confusing if you don’t know what/whom you are dealing with. As in the world, the compromised body of Christ also has a soft spot for Mammon. Mammon gets their speaker’s books and dvds sold, it gets them hits (visits to their sites), it gets them advertising, and not saying anything disparaging about the “leaders” who are estranged with the Apostate Church always buys them more time to sell more of their junk. It’s easy to figure out, it’s just horribly sad and discouraging. I know I’ve been there. In the end all of this is good news, because it draws our eyes to the Lord, the author and finisher of our faith. It reminds me (us) that there is only One Good Shepherd and that is Christ Jesus and no one man or two men can distract us from the truth of who God is when we put our faith, hope, and trust back on the one-the only one- who deserves it.
John 10:13-15 (KJV)
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Some people who are already deceived by Glenn Beck and who listen to everything this false prophet heretic has to say will tweet anything Beck says and does. This is a dangerous enterprise when following man. Mindless repeating of information may cause a sheep to stumble, especially when one is encouraging an ignorant Christian to listen to the Doctrines of Demons by A) Glenn Beck, then B) those guests of Glenn Beck, in this case it was Raymond Kurzweil. He is anti-Christ, a denier of the God who created him and he seeks to defy God by living forever and resurrecting his dead father. Raymond Kurzweil may continue to say he is using his technology and theories to “help” humanity, but he’s attempting to destroy and replace humanity. He is anti-humanity because he is Anti-Christ. This is not the type of people you need to put stock in and begin to hang on their every word.
The Bible is very clear about people like Kurzweil. There is nothing new under the sun. Charlatans and mediums have been around since the beginning. Satan tries in every era to beat God and he fails. Satan wants to be like God, he wants to be seated high above. Kurzweil has been at this objective for years…
and Glenn Beck has hearted this man for years.
Transcendent Man, Prepare to Evolve, a documentary movie about Raymond Kurzweil. A featured critic in the movie was non other than Chuck Missler. However, Chuck Missler shares many of the very same ideologies and theories as Kurzweil. Missler targets the “Evangelical” and Baptist circles, while Kurzweil targets the Mormons (Glenn Beck’s show) and those already deceived by people like Chuck Missler, the Evangelical Neo-non-denominational (formerly known as “Ecumenical”) base. Is all the world a stage and Beck, Kurzweil, and Missler simply its players? Am I the only one that sees a problem here?
Ray Kurzweil’s wildest dream is to be turned into a cyborg—a flesh-and-blood human enhanced with tiny embedded computers, a man-machine hybrid with billions of microscopic nanobots coursing through his bloodstream. And there’s a moment, halfway through a conversation in his office in Wellesley, Mass., when I start to think that Kurzweil’s transformation has already begun. It’s the way he talks—in a flat, robotic monotone. Maybe it’s just because he’s been giving the same spiel, over and over, for years now. He does 70 speeches annually at $30,000 a pop, and draws crowds of adoring fans who worship him as a kind of prophet. Kurzweil is a legend in the world of computer geeks, an inventor, author and computer scientist who bills himself as a futurist. The ideas he’s espousing are as radical as anything you’ve ever heard. But the strangest thing about Ray Kurzweil is that when you sit down for a one-on-one chat with him, he’s absolutely boring.
Listen closely, though, and you may be slightly terrified. Kurzweil believes computer intelligence is advancing so rapidly that in a couple of decades, machines will be as intelligent as humans. Soon after that they will surpass humans and start creating even smarter technology. By the middle of this century, the only way for us to keep up will be to merge with the machines so that their superior intelligence can boost our weak little brains and beef up our pitiful, illness-prone bodies. Some of Kurzweil’s fellow futurists believe these superhuman computers will want nothing to do with us—that we will become either their pets or, worse yet, their food. Always an optimist, Kurzweil takes a more upbeat view. He swears these superhuman computers will love us, and honor us, since we’ll be their ancestors. He also thinks we’ll be able to embed our consciousness into silicon, which means we can live on, inside machines, forever and ever, amen.
Kurzweil calls this moment “The Singularity,” and says it represents the next great leap in human evolution, when humans will transcend biology by merging with technology. Kurzweil truly believes this is going to happen—and he can’t wait to be part of it. All he has to do is stay alive until 2045, when he believes the necessary technologies will be available. So he lives on a strict diet, and every day he swallows 150 dietary supplements in order to “reprogram” his body’s biochemistry. Today he is 61 years old and in very good health. In 2045 he will be 97. In other words, it’s doable.
Still, a lot of people think Kurzweil is completely bonkers and/or full of a certain messy byproduct of ordinary biological functions. They include P. Z. Myers, a biologist at the University of Minnesota, Morris, who has used his blog to poke fun at Kurzweil and other armchair futurists who, according to Myers, rely on junk science and don’t understand basic biology. “I am completely baffled by Kurzweil’s popularity, and in particular the respect he gets in some circles, since his claims simply do not hold up to even casually critical examination,” writes Myers. He says Kurzweil’s Singularity theories are closer to a deluded religious movement than they are to science. “It’s a New Age spiritualism—that’s all it is,” Myers says. “Even geeks want to find God somewhere, and Kurzweil provides it for them.” click source link for full article. End of Excerpt.
Left, a younger Raymond Kurzweil. For someone who is trying to stay alive until 2045, looks like he’s aged exponentially since making false claims, and leading people to his new age theology.
Kurzweil has been popular for sometime it appears…
He assigns himself a problem before he dreams then awakens and tries to use the time between dream state and fully cognitive to interpret.
“If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.” Deut. 13:1-5
There is a push in the Media to “prime” the public for an inevitability of Cyborgs and Utopian Societies. Here is an article I saw today that justifies my assertion:
Of course it’s on Russia Today and it’s concerning NIC’s (National Intelligence Council; which is a department of the US government) “prediction” that the New Liberal Order will emerge and create a “better” life for everyone. Never mind it’s implications are that complete Big Brother is necessary for this utopia.
We can’t end 2012 without addressing the End of the World.
If the re-eclection of Obama didn’t cause the heavens to fall from their place perhaps the fiscal cliff will.
It appears the “Church” has also abandoned their faith in the Mayan Calendar predictions as most of those Bible “scholars” who piggy backed off the Mayan’s false prophecies published their books and dvd’s in 2010, well ahead of the impending date so as to capitalize without looking silly. (Link NOT an endorsement)
The US, the very same US that was “Hanging by a shred!” is still very much in power (for now), the economy is on life support but has been for a few decades, shhh, everyone thinks black Friday and cyber Monday saved us.
So, what happens when the world continues to perpetuate itself? Do you who counted on not existing fall into a deep depression? Were you counting on being a crispy speck of dust? Are your converse still tied to your feet and your Ipad still pumping out the latest pins? I mean does the whole world implode because it didn’t explode? Does your faith waver? Do you doubt God’s word because the preacher man told you not to buy green bananas or renew your subscription to Runner’s World? Can your faith stand?
Did you make plans for 2013? Some people literally do not live for the future because each and every day is filled with an all consuming preoccupation with “leaving.” I beg you to put your faith, hope and trust in the Lord and to focus on what His word really says and although any day here could be your last, live!
There is a natural desire for life to perpetuate itself. Most people, and animals as well, seek to live and try to sustain life. Hence, procreation. There’s no greater oxymoron to me than the Pro-lifer who is adamant about saving the unborn and in the same breath speaks of blowing up people in other countries (for their own self-preservation) knowing that should God take them they’d go to heaven as believers in Christ Jesus, but those in the other countries the same could not be said. But, I digress. There have been many false teachers, false prophesies out there for a very long time. Here are but a few of those failed pieces of propaganda, for those who like vintage art: (Click on images to enlarge)
The End of the World will come, eventually. Don’t worry, if you want to be here that bad to see it you may get your wish. There are people who truly are seeing and understanding the last day of their loved ones here on earth. There is real loss out there, real pain, and you who are healthy and whom grace has abound in your life should be grateful and stop pining and whining for thee last day. Be ready, to live for Christ. Have the gospel on your lips.
“I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” Galatians 2:20
“According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. 21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: 24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; 26 That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again. 27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel; 28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God. 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; 30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.” Philippians 1:20-30
**Update**
For those of you reading this post because December 21, 2012 is near I am including this full length video. I DO NOT endorse these people on this video, I’m posting it to illustrate to you that these false preachers have been saying “The End is Near” for a long time. In the Eighties it was the Ozone Layer that was going to suck us out of the earth, today it’s Climate Change, Solar Flares and Mayan Aliens. There will be an END, no doubt, but there is a clear and definitive path that we are on and ‘the end is not yet.’ Your end may be near, you may die being hit by a car, you may lose someone close to you and their end will have come, we all who are alive are destined to die. I will die and I know where I’m going to go, hence no anxiety over it, but I rather live as long as I can and do what God has called me to do on this earth for as long as He will allow me.
Here’s the Saturday Night Feature Presentation of a Retro End of Days movie, these old guys are still around selling the same can of doomsday in a new package…
What does the Bible have to say about “Moses’ seat?”
Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.” Matt.23:1-13
From Calvary Chapel Distinctives:
WE BELIEVE that the church government should be simplistic rather than a complex bureaucracy, and we depend on the Holy Spirit to lead, rather than on fleshly promotion. We recognize there are various biblical models for governing a local church body; however, we follow the biblical model of a pastor-led church as demonstrated by God’s leading the nation of Israel through Moses, and by Christ leading His flock through pastors of the early church. Source: here not an endorsement
I left CC and I’m happy that I am no longer in that “Movement.” (That was me being kind) They still meet: 2012 Pastors Convention (click here), they still have their circuit speakers and “experts” defining the end of the world and who’s Apostate (Rick Warren-but not BFF Greg Laurie or ancient Jedi night Chuck Smith who mentored them) and who’s not: Greg Laurie, Skip Heitzig, Bob Coy, Gayle Erwin and Chuck Smith. I’ve said so much on CC already it feels like a moot point to report on them any further. There are people, beside myself, who have survived the throws of such a cult and to my fellow survivors I say, “Praise the Lord! You are free!” To those who are still engulfed in the “CC Movement” I pass no judgement on you (unless you know how deep and seedy things are there and continue to sit under such falsity) one day you may find yourself seeking the whole truth about this “Movement” and you’ll find your way back to this website and others who’ve trudged the road less traveled and tried to shed light on the darkness within CC.
In the meantime CC continues to grow (wide is the gate). It’s not unusual that a “Movement” such as this has yet to cease from existence. Jesus warned us there would be false teachers, false Christs, and so it has been since before and since Jesus walked this earth. The truth does always win out~ the men who are sitting on the seat exalted of their own accord will be made known and it’ll be God’s doing not N4TM. The further and longer it has been since I left CC I am less aware of what CC is up to, and I like it that way!
David Barton is a known and exposed False teacher. He is one of the biggest cons to surface in recent years. Barton is backed by Calvary Chapel, Chuck Missler, Glenn Beck, John Hagee, just to name a few other false teachers.
I can only pray that my brothers and sisters in the Lord would cease from their ear tickling long enough, step away from lifting up America as an idol of worship, and return to the True Word of God for direction in all things. The simple fact that there is an audience and a market for David Barton, Missler, Beck, et. al is sad, however it is a fulfillment of prophecy, the great falling away is apparent. Cling to the Words of Jesus and not some charlatan who’s out to make a buck and a name for himself.
Barton is not the only one who’s written his own version of the Bible or published a Bible Commentary book to promote his own twisted interpretation of the Scripture. Another Pastor, Rick Warren wrote one for Barack Obama called the Poverty and Justice Bible. It was promoted by the likes of Tony Campolo and Bono. Same hat trick, different mad hatter.
Above is Pamela Gellar. In the blogosphere she’s knows as “Atlas Shrugs.” She has mushroomed into an entity and an enterprise since the days I first learned of her. When I discovered this lady it was through Front Page Magazine, David Horowitz. I learned of Front Page Mag from, Discover the Networks. I learned about Discover the Networks from Jihad Watch, Robert Spencer. Robert Spencer I learned of from Jerome Corsi of World Net Daily. I learned of World Net Daily, Joseph Farah from Calvary Chapel Prophesy Conferences (Featuring: Chuck Missler, David Hocking, Roger Oakland, Jack Hibbs, Bridgette Gabriele, Walid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem, Avi Lipkin and the list goes on and on.) All these people are interwoven they all have a purpose and that is to disseminate the ‘divide and rule’ ideology. They use the Word of God and twist it to play off the fears of persecution, they angle it so that you are spoon fed the lie that if you don’t annihilate the Muslim countries first, they will come and kill you in your sleep. There are more names and they all work together. Think of those that do speaking engagements just alongside of the ones I’ve mentioned so far. Imagine if you would for one moment that a corrupt Mass Media system would not be complete if it did not have every “Christian” media organization in it’s pocket as well. I know for most of you out there what I’m saying sounds like crazy talk. “How can the church be the ones responsible for spreading lies and hate and division; all they’re doing is sounding the warning, blowing the trumpet, protecting liberty and freedom and supporting Israel!” Right. Said the little sheep who bleats and does not test the spirit. These people have entourages, detail, body guards when they show up at churches. That’s stuff of the CIA and controlled op, not a “brother/sister” in the Lord who’s putting their “life” on the line to sound a trumpet call. They hang out after the speech and sign autographs, sell their books, DVD’s, Mp3′s; and you sign up for their “free” newsletter. I hate to sound old, ugly, tired, and jaded; all of which I know and admit I am when it comes to trying to educate the brethren of the deep rooted and very WIDE deception that encompasses the Church of America, but I guess I’m guilty as charged.
This ad that Pamela Gellar is going to run in New York on MTA within days is her free speech. I accept it as free speech. I believe she has every right to be bigoted as her counterpart Terry Jones and Nakoula Basseley Nakoula (the Producer/Director of “Innocence of Muslims). People have the right to be opinionated, obnoxious, wrong, right, left, straight, gay, Christian, Muslim, Idiot, savage and civilized, absolutely. However,
“There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Proverbs 16:25.
Just because we can be and have the “right” to be that doesn’t mean it is profitable. In my opinion what Gellar is doing is not fruitful. The ad does not bear witness of God the Father and absolutely not of Jesus Christ’s works.
The media and the church at times instigate fear and rhetoric into our everyday life, so much so that we don’t realize how much and to what extent we are being primed and brainwashed.
At one time I liked Pam Gellar, I thought she had spunk, then once I began to test the fruit I saw little to no fruit of the Spirit. There is no peaceableness with these people because their very existence is based on instilling fear and running you ragged with propaganda of hate. Bringing in an intelligence operative of over 25 years, having a retired General who is a blatant Jesuit Knight who’s sworn an oath to the Pope into the church to teach the body about Islam is not the work of Christ, this is blatant programing. If you can’t see it, if you have never once wondered or pondered why some churches are so heavily politicized and attempt to inoculate the body to accept War and death and annihilation to a whole populace (yes that’s you being controlled and manipulated to accept war and killing “them” those “evil Muslims”) and stopped to see what Jesus had to say about how to treat your enemies, and how to react when you are condemned and persecuted for His namesake, well then, I have nothing to say.
“…Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.”Luke 12:1-3
The original Post of “Woe.” was on August 25, 2009. Edits and additional comments are explained at the end of the original post.
**Update: this post has been previously attached to a site that claims I am a CC ‘member.’
When I wrote this post I was attending a CC and had for years, this is no longer true as of June 2010.**
The Shift has Begun. The time for secrets and whispered alliances has become publicly known. The object of grievance for many who love Calvary Chapel and all that it once stood for has been affirmed. For all those who were called “Head Hunters, Heresy Sniffers, Contentious, and slanderers” they may now have some level of confirmation that their discernment wasn’t wrong; however, a true child of God who has the “gift” of discernment takes no pleasure in seeing what was once ‘the warning’ come to pass. Many people who are in the camp that believe Rick Warren is doing a work of God think that all of us are simply fanatic and fearful to ‘change.’ No. I accept Change. What I do not accept is heresy, lies, and false teachers. I will start in the order of the men that are in the picture above.
Greg Laurie.Greg is the Senior Pastor of Harvest Church in Riverside California. For those of you who don’t know the relationship of Greg Laurie and Rick Warren has stemmed over twenty years. According to Rick Warren himself, in a short clip taken backstage at the Harvest Crusade 2009, they have had a cyclical relationship with each others flock {see video below} . Greg Laurie has taught classes at Saddleback church and has done other projects in conjunction with Rick Warren. Greg’s relationship with Rick Warren has not been a secret in the Calvary Chapel circles. Many pastors have approached Greg Laurie over the years and attempted to rebuke him in love about his unequally yoked partnership to Rick Warren. Each time Greg asserted himself as someone who had been ‘sent to minister’ to Rick Warren. Over the same amount of years pastors have attempted to rebuke Rick Warren in love and to warn him about his own unequally yoked fellowship with those in the Emergent Church Movement and many other false gospels. Rick Warren too has justified himself and refused to repent of the heresies he has taught. I know that many people are going to be hurt by this news of Pastor Chuck Smith, Greg Laurie and Rick Warren appearing together on the same platform in “one accord.” For many who have called Calvary Chapel their home church the possibility of such once sound men of God (Laurie & Smith) appearing with an obvious wolf in sheep’s clothing (Warren) seems absolutely inconceivable. However, the truth of the matter is that is exactly what has happened. I have done many posts on this blog and my other blog related to the Heresy and Leaven that Rick Warren has introduced into the Evangelical, Christian, movement. This post is not so much to warn you of Rick Warren as it is to warn you about the dangers occurring inside Calvary Chapel. Rick Warren’s leaven has infiltrated Harvest church for years, it has filtered into smaller Calvary Chapels, and with the stamp of approval that Chuck Smith has now given it, the Leaven and Heresy that is Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Life has come to roost in Harvest and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.
Chuck Smith.Chuck is the Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and known as one of the key persons of influence of the Jesus People Movement. Honesty I know very little about the ‘Jesus people movement.’ I have attended Calvary Chapel the length of my entire walk with Jesus Christ and never once cared to look into when or why this ‘movement’ started. When I had entered in to this ‘fold’ I had felt I was getting clear biblical teaching of God’s word. And I was. The Calvary Chapel of the past has changed dramatically. What Pastor Chuck started all those years ago has become an extended family that has grown up generations of Christ loving, God fearing people. Today however, with the acceptance of one of the most dangerous false teachers, Rick Warren, Calvary Chapel has much to lose and little to gain from yoking itself with Purpose Driven heresy. As I stated before, Rick’s relationship with Greg has not been kept in isolation, many people have known of this, however the fear that the ‘leadership’ from the top…ie, Pastor Chuck Smith, to accept Rick Warren’s heresy and to condone it has tipped the scale. Many people in the Emergent Church movement have been waiting for the day that Chuck would ‘accept’ Emergent and Purpose Driven as a movement that not even Chuck could deny it’s power to move people. However, simply because people are moved emotionally and spiritually deceived into a spiritual ‘experience’ does not make that a move of God. In 2006 Chuck Smith himself released a positional paper that denounced the Emergent Church, however today he is by his actions denouncing the very stand he took only some three years ago. Today the rebuke doesn’t seem to come, however I trust the Lord is working out His perfect will even as it appears that evil is prospering. It must be said that today Chuck is only expressing publicly what he has held as true privately for a long time. I can say that because many sheep have been stumbled by his actions to shield and protect Greg Laurie and Greg’s relationship with Rick Warren. There have been events that have caused people to stumble that have been hosted by CCCM, and other “Calvary Chapel Pastors” over the years. It has been years. This didn’t happen over night. Senior Pastors from the biggest to the smallest Calvary Chapel on the Directory KNOW what has been going on. They have had overt warnings, they’ve had whispered concerns expressed by critically hurt sheep and have denied to address the problem of the leaven that is Rick Warren and his blasphemous counterfeit gospel.
My Appeal to Pastor Chuck Smith, with all due respect to what you’ve done in the past, what you are doing now and what’s been happening for some time is stumbling and scattering the flock that God entrusted to you and countless other Calvary Chapel Pastors.
8. The great confusion that exists in the divergent positions of the Emergent Church results from their challenging the final authority of the Scriptures. When you no longer have a final authority, then everyone’s ideas become as valid as the next person’s, and it cannot help but end in total confusion and contradictions.
There are those who say that Emergent movement has some good points, but so does a porcupine. You are better off if you don’t get too close!-Chuck Smith, 2006
Rick Warren. I’ve said enough.
“Thank you Greg for preaching at 4 of the 6 services at Saddleback.” Rick Warren.
Olive Tree Ministries, Understanding the Times, Slice of Laodicea , Crosstalk, Prophesy News Watch, Joel’s Trumpet, Eric Barger, Lighthousetrails, OneNewsNow
References to Warren at Laurie’s Harvest Crusade:
[The following sites are not an endorsement nor am I in agreement with the sites cited.]
In this seminar, we take up the biblical basis for the unity of Word and Table in worship that emerged in the early church. We introduce four important texts
for understanding ancient future worship.
We look at three, practical legacies of ancient worship:
• the reading of Scripture,
• the Eucharistic prayer,
• the chanting of the psalms
You must understand who the speakers are at these events (Research Leonard Sweet), what they believe, and teach to understand the implications. There are people who become stumbled because they believe some on the ticket to be ‘men of God.’ Some of these ‘men of God’ have taught on other types of heresy, or false doctrine, yet still are unequally yoked and keeping company with darkness.
The Answer to the Question. You may be asking yourself right about now, “What does this all mean?” What am ‘I’ implying by voicing all the things that have been said in this post? Am ‘I’ calling Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith, heretics, false teachers, false prophets…? God’s word answers that for you.
2 Peter 2
1But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
3and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
1 Peter 5
The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.
Matthew 18
7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
1 Timothy 4
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
Test all things. Test the Spirit. Test what is being preached and taught in your church against the WORD of God. I recently commented to a friend if people tested all ‘Pastors, Speakers, Authors, etc’ against the true Word of God then there wouldn’t be a need for ‘Discernment Ministries.’ There has been volumes of warnings out on Rick Warren, Purpose Driven Life, Emergent/Emerging Church, Dominionist Theology, Mysticism, Ancient Future Worship, etc. The hour is late and there is little time to go through all that is now masquerading itself as ‘light’ in this world…but by all means try to do your own homework. Do not take anything of what I’ve said in this post or any other for that matter without holding it up to see if it’s true.
2 Corinthians 6
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
One last answer to the broken-hearted out there who is grieving and mourning for the truth in matters….
All this has shown me is that there is no one righteous, no not one, especially myself! I make no claims to be more holy than the next person. I know that nothing good dwells in me and that I am a chief sinner. One thing I do know is that God is doing a continuing sanctification and by the Blood of the Lamb alone am I saved! Rejoice brother and sister in the Lord, for the time is near and the times are proving themselves to be the last days that our Lord Jesus Christ has spoken of. I know there is a remnant out there. I know there are people who love Jesus Christ Messiah and seek to do His will. Let us focus our eyes on the Lord Jesus Christ, SON of the Living God! Our faith is bound up in Jesus Christ and none other!
Ezekiel 33
6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.
**Update** 4-27- 2010
Finally a ministry with tons of connections comes out with a warning on what I’ve already expressed in this article and many countless others have been trying to express for years now~ better late than never:
Calvary Chapel Alert: Calvary Chapel Albuquerque (Skip Heitzig) Hosting New Age Mystic Leonard Sweet
(but let’s be clear this isn’t the first year he’s invited Leonard Sweet! AND it’s not that Chuck Smith doesn’t know about it or other CC Pastors…)
Post Primary Commentary: Below are my thoughts now in 2012, three years after the infamous embrace at Harvest August, 17th 2009.
The site above with a line through was Moriel, they disabled that link so it’s useless to have it up; and they never warned about Rick Warren’s connections to Greg Laurie or his visit in 2009 and embrace with Chuck Smith Sr.Further above in this post was a group of links to articles outside of my own blog posts who have written about Rick Warren; those sites I disabled the links to because I DO NOT support, endorse, or agree with those sites any longer. It has come to my attention over the years that those who placate and remain silent on truly exposing those within Calvary Chapel, who’ve enjoyed decades long employment and ministerial support, are just as guilty as perpetuating the lie within Calvary as the ones they claim to “expose;” namely Rick Warren.
Since this post in 2009 not one major discernment site reported on this union (Warren/Smith/Laurie). In fact since the Harvest 2009 20th Anniversary there has been much more leaven within Calvary Chapel and since then the failure of the major Discernment Sites and “Discernment Ministries” to expose the true and very real deception inside of Calvary Chapel has become over abundantly clear and pervasive. Those who expose Calvary Chapel and their fake discernment ministries that keep them afloat giving the appearance of a discerning church are the ones who are laboring and getting attacked from the CC machine. There is a vast and broad network within the Calvary Chapel “Movement” that crosses denominational divides. The Baptist Churches are involved too and I would venture to say that many of the “Emergent Churches” who have been declared the Devil incarnate by the organized controlled Discernment Ministries were really birthed out of the CC movement and the early hippies who saw CC moving toward Yuppeidom rather than staying “true” to their “emerging” styles in the early 70′s. This article “Woe” cost me nothing to post; I was an unknown blogger who had to send out mass emails to my friends and family to get readers. Now I don’t bother anyone with when I post a new article; however, I do have some more readers today than I did in 2009, but I am still very much an unknown. I do not have “secret” information; I do not know the upper echelons of Calvary Chapel. I do not work with anyone within Calvary Chapel or their subsidiaries. I am one person, with a heart for the body of Christ and I pray that those who are entrapped by the snare of the false teachings of CC and their organized discernment ministries will make their way out.
John 10: 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
*Disclaimer:Videos presented on this post are for Examining what Missler is teaching and what/whom he has learned from they are not to be considered endorsements!
Stop at 0:24 seconds! Who is Rabbi “Moses” Cordevaro? Google Results were for Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, a Kabbalist. Here are some hits:
• The renowned Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, head of the Rabbinical Court of Tzfat, wrote a book called Pardes Rimonim in 1549. On page 68, he writes that the secrets of the Torah are revealed in its letters through many means, including “skipping of letters”. Source: http://www.glazerson.com/torahcodeskeptics.htm (emphasis mine link not an endorsement)
• “One of the greatest of all Kabbalists was Rabbi Moshe Cordovero. He was born in 1522 in Safed, the city that was soon to become famed as a center of Kabbalah. At a young age, he already gained a reputation as an extroardinary genius. Besides his knowledge in Kabbalah, he was a Talmudic scholar and philosopher of the highest rank, and was widely respected in these fields. He was even one of the four to receive the special semichah-ordination from Rabbi Yaakov Beirav in 1538, along with Rabbis Yosef Caro (Cordovero’s teacher in Jewish Law), Moshe of Trani and Yosef Sagis, all of whom were much older and better known than the young prodigy.” Source:http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/83771/jewish/Rabbi-Moshe-Cordovero.htm (link not an endorsement)
• Decoding the Dogma Within the Enigma: The Life, Works, Mystical Piety and SystematicThought of Rabbi Moses Cordoeiro (aka Cordovero;Safed, Israel, 1522-1570) Book by Kabalist Rabbi Moses Cordeiro (Cordevaro)
• Rabbi Moses Cordovero’s Introduction to Kabbalah (Or Ne’erav) Book sold on this site: http://www.mysefer.com/product.asp?cookiecheck=yes&P_ID=3993&strPageHistory=related (link not an endorsement)
Chuck Missler and Lambert Dolphin (pictured).
Missler’s video above is on the topic of “Bible Codes” and more specifically “EQUIDISTANT LETTER SEQUENCES.” When I Googled just “Equidistant Letter Sequences” an article written by Lambert Dolphin, Chuck Missler’s old time friend, popped up. Coincidentally the entire article sounds like what Chuck Missler gave in his short video; more importantly Lambert’s article pointed me in the right direction, finding out where Dolphin and Missler get their “ideas” from! Below is an excerpt from one of Mr. Dolphin’s posts:
“Hidden Scientific Codes in Genesis”
“It has become fashionable for contemporary Bible teachers to claim that Genesis is not intended to give a scientific, detailed account of how God created the universe, but that rather it is often said that the Hebrew prose of the opening book of the Bible is painted in broad brush strokes only. However, when one looks at a level below the obvious translation of the text into meaningful words understood as human language, the text of Genesis actually contains an encrypted code revealing the geometry of time and space, patterns for all living things, and the roots of all every alphabet and every language known to man!
Some years ago a Jewish scholar, Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation noticed that the ordered arrangement of the Hebrew letters of Genesis 1:1 was not random. If 27 letters of the Hebrew alphabet were assigned a numerical value from 1 to 27 (with Aleph being counted as a “0″) then Genesis 1:1 (and all the subsequent text thus far examined) can be easily decoded into patterns using a counting base of 3. (emphasis added)
It should be noted that Tenen’s work is not the same thing as Biblical numerology—where numbers occurring in the text of the Bible (such as 3, 4, 6, 12, 40, etc.) can be seen to have symbolic meaning. Likewise Tenen is not dealing with what is usually thought of as esoteric Jewish Kabalistic mysticism, or Christian mysticism, in his analysis. What he has discovered is that the text of the Bible is actually an incredible computer code with built-in error correction features and levels of complexity. These findings taken all by themselves apart from faith or religious belief system immediately suggest the Bible is indeed much more than the inspired words of religious writers, but must in fact be the very Word of God.
Much wild and fanciful material has been written on the so called “Bible codes” in recent years–and most of it is either erroneous or at best useless. However the actual hidden structures in the Bible are really there and attest eloquently to the Divine Authorship of our Bibles. The definitive book on this subject is The Cosmic Codes, by Chuck Missler. It is extremely thorough and carefully written.” Source: Lambert Dolphin http://www.ldolphin.org/Introgen.html (not an endorsement. Dolphin’s article links to K-House)
N4TM- In the above excerpt Dolphin is misleading the reader. He says “Jewish Scholar” Stan Tenen, Stan Tenen is a Kabbalist fair and square. I have posted below Stan Tenen’s own video where he gives the exact explanation for ELS’s and it sounds exactly like what Missler explained. Another aspect where Dolphin distorts the truth is when he states that Tenen is “not” dealing with Kabbalistic mysticism, but according to Tenen’s own words that is exactly what he’s done. Make sure to watch the whole 3 parts of Tenen’s videos, it’s thirty minutes but if you watch and listen with discernment it explains a lot about him, and he is who Lambert and Missler are getting their information from! Picture of Lambert Dolphin “at his computerized Ouija board” was taken from his own site!Below is one more excerpt from another one of Dolphin’s posts:
“Editors Note: I have long been interested in the possibility of hidden codes in the Hebrew and Greek texts of the Bible. Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation has been doing remarkable, and I believe meaningful, computer analysis of Genesis from which he has gleaned what would appear to be some amazing geometrical properties of the universe. Recently interest in Torah Codes has mushroomed both among Christians such as Grant Jeffrey, numerous groups of Torah scholars in Israel, and others, for instance The Official Torah Codes Page .
I welcome Uri Marcus’ article which helps bring balance and reason to this discussion since many extravagant claims are being made. Lambert Dolphin, February 22, 1997. Thanks to Grant Jeffrey and Yacob Rambsel also for their response at the end of this article.” Source: Lambert Dolphin http://www.ldolphin.org/torahcodes.html (not an endorsement, the links were hypertext in his original post and are also not endorsed by N4TM)
Missler’s Video above has more details in it that are red flags but I am not going to expound on everything in this post.
Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation:
Stan Tenen read what? Kabbalah books. He also read every other type of Mystical literature. In this video he doesn’t mention reading the New Testament. I don’t want to waste too much time researching Mr. Tenen, but you get the point with this thirty minute video don’t you? Do you know, or can you see the vanity, the divination being practiced? Can you discern the symbols he uses, and that he ultimately says that all religions are true (part 3 video)?
Stan Tenen is just one Kabbalist where Missler and Lambert are getting their information. They are basing their “biblical” knowledge and discernment based of mystics, rabbi’s who are not converted to believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah, and yet they are “using” their bible decoding system? What is the purpose here? Is Missler trying to encode the listener and students he has? I never heard of Kabbalah until I listened to a Chuck Missler CD on “exposing Kabbalah.” I never paid any attention to Quantum physics until I heard Mr. Missler allude to it at nausea in his teachings.
Someone asked me in the comment section on a previous post, Slight of hand: False Prophet Chuck Missler still on Speaker Schedule with other Calvary Chapel Discerners, “You failed to say what the heresy was. He s the best Bible scholar l know on tv or internet. In fact possibly one of the very few l would call a scholar on tv. Please do let me know what heresy you re talking about.” I told this commenter that I was not ignoring her comment but rather I was praying about whether or not to do a separate post on Missler’s heresy.
Hindsight is 20/20
It was not until I completely left Calvary Chapel that I recognized the error that seems so clear to me now. Missler’s air of expertise and his vast vocabulary of areas we the common people have little knowledge of can be impressive and also deceptive. Since I don’t know the first thing about “M-theory” when Missler spoke of it and I had only known him from Calvary Chapel and Prophesy Conferences held in Churches or sponsored by churches held in conference centers, one assumed it was biblical or at least that Missler knew what he is talking about. I sought to explain how Missler is Amiss, and for me it doesn’t take much to come to this conclusion. This video is not how I learned about Missler being false it’s a demonstration and an example of his false teachings. Start examining what he’s teaching. I watch a video, such as the one at the beginning of this post, I stop and ask a question, Who is Missler referring to? I looked him up (Rabbi Moshe Cordovero), the guy is a Kabbalist! Then I continue to hear the rest of the video, he’s talking about ELS’s; What is that I ask myself, and I Googled it. I see Lambert Dolphin has written on the topic. From previous research on Missler I have come to know how lengthy Dolphin’s relationship with Missler is. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dolphin is one of Missler’s ghost writers. I read Dolphin’s article, he keeps referring to Stan Tenen, who’s that guy? Stan Tenen is a Kabbalist. Once I watched the full 30 minute video “Frist light” by Stan Tenen it sounded exactly like what Chuck Missler spoke on in the video on ELS’s. It doesn’t take much more than that for me to realize that Mr. Missler is learning from Kabbalists and he’s rewriting their teachings and putting a “Christianese” flair on it and selling it off as though he has some inside tract on decoding the bible. I could go a step further and ask is Missler encoding his subjects while he’s presumably teaching about ‘decoding’ the Bible? On another video I’ve seen of Missler, with Sid Roth on “It’s Supernatural,” Missler is spewing his “Aliens are Demons, fallen Angels, ie, Nephilim,” (Not an Endorsement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54DRUR57Oos) I discerned that he’s taking scripture out of context and putting his own “theory” on it. Or is it his theory? Maybe his theory on Demons being UFO’s came from his friends Grant Jeffery and/or Tom Horn who study the paranormal. I’ve reported on Missler’s CNP connections, his ties to Tim LaHaye, his SwanSat business, attempting to create a single currency for Africa via the Auric, not to mention his false prophesy of the Y2K computer malfunction that never happened that is public knowledge. If you look at Chuck Missler and test his teachings against scripture and not the other way around it will not be long before Scripture tells you his teaching are false. What he’s doing by quoting Enoch (Apocrypha & non-canonized) and quoting Kabbalah and trying to use Mystical and Extra-Biblical teachings to “illuminate” the scriptures is backwards and it’s called Divination.
divination
DIVINATION, n. L., to foretell. See Divine.
1. The act of divining; a foretelling future events, or discovering things secret or obscure, by the aid of superior beings, or by other than human means. The ancient heathen philosophers divided divination into two kinds, natural and artificial. Natural divination was supposed to be effected by a kind of inspiration or divine afflatus; artificial divination was effected by certain rites, experiments or observations, as by sacrifices, cakes, flour, wine, observation of entrails, flight of birds, lots, verses, omens, position of the stars, &c.
2. Conjectural presage; prediction.
Leviticus 19: 31
31 ‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.
Deuteronomy 18:10
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
2 Kings 17:17
17 And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger.
Leviticus 20:6-7
6 ‘And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. 7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God.
My most favorite scripture that helps me with this sort of discernment:
“If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage, to entice you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall put away the evil from your midst.” Deuteronomy 13:1-5
“Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6 They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7 greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8 But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” Matt.23:1-12
The last time I addressed a post with Matthew 23 was with my article “Woe” in September 2009. I had wrestled with whether or not to post anything about the Harvest Crusade that had just transpired in August 2009 where Rick Warren (America’s favorite Pastor/and all time heretic) had appeared on stage with Chuck Smith (Calvary Chapel’s Founder and Mega Pastor that transformed the hippies back into yuppies). I waited at that time to see if any of the “Discernment” ministries would address the issue, after all it was them who had warned me about Rick Warren and all his evilness. Where were the flocks of “Watchmen” who were supposed to hold up the mirror to Chuck Smith and say, “Why did you do that, “brother?”" There were “experts” on Emergent church infiltration who had linked Rick Warren’s mega church Seeker driven management style to the likes of C.Peter Wagner and Bill Hybels and the list went on and on, Rick Warren is a “Globalist,” so I heard from these speakers and authors who traveled the globe, yet found time to come to the local Calvary Chapel and sell their books and Cd’s. All the men were silent and the women as well. So, although I knew only ten people might even read my blog at the time I would have to say something because I had sent out warnings about Rick Warren too, I had passed along much of the information I had gathered from those “Discernment” ministries, and I too had been known to say, “I will lift up no one above my God, principal before personalities…” And I wrote my article, “Woe.” Some came, many more than I had anticipated came to read, some objected and chastised me, some even condemned me for “attacking” “God’s anointed.” But the folks who had seen the hand writing on the wall were appreciative, and I got many messages of confirmation and solidarity when they shared their own experiences at being hushed up, pushed out, and black listed for trying to sound their own warnings in their own way at their own Calvary Chapels.
An Apology
This is an apology, not to address anything I’ve said in the past, but failure for not being more discerning then as I feel I am now. When Rick Warren appeared “on stage” with Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith, it wasn’t a shock so much as it was confirmation of the long history they’ve shared and suspicions that there was a close working relationship between them. They finally had displayed outwardly what many had suspicions of inwardly for a long time. What I am about to disclose in the series of posts that follow is information I’ve had for maybe a few weeks, some information again that simply needed confirmation to suspicions, but for the most part none of what I’m going to share has been hidden from view. Often times these types of double minded people do things in plain view, it’s a joke to them, to keep everyone’s eyes preoccupied on the ‘right’ hand so we don’t see what they are doing with their ‘left’ hand, but both are always moving and both always working together. My apology is, “I’m sorry I didn’t see all this sooner and could have warned you of more earlier, but this is what I have found. I don’t want to harm my brethren by not sharing what I have. Other “ministries” I believe have known of this and probably know much more than I do since they’ve been around for much longer, but many of them are a part of this “Network” and have made the choice to suppress information. I am not a part of any “Discernment Ministry.” I’m not working for anyone. I don’t know these people personally and what I am about to share is not a “personal” attack on any one person individually but it is highly suspect that these people who make a living off of “warning” you of false shepherds and false prophets have failed significantly; in this respect their failure to truly warn leads me to believe their failure is not accidental.
“Breaking News”
In 2009 while most of us (including myself) were distracted and appalled (or not) by Chuck Smith embracing Rick Warren, “a friend,” on stage at Harvest 2009 in August; we missed what happened in November 2009. Although this is going back, it’s breaking News to me, and may or may not mean something significant to you. For my first part of the series I will provide information that CNP’s Founder and Moonie supporter, Timothy LaHaye, has had an extensive and long career with Calvary Chapel, so much so that in 2009 the Founder of Calvary Chapel appeared at Tim LaHaye’s Pre-Trib Study Group Conference.
Click on picture to enlarge. Some of you may still think of Tim LaHaye as, “just the guy who wrote Left Behind,” but he’s more than that and his empire wasn’t built overnight.
I don’t want this first post to turn into who Tim LaHaye is, he’s been exposed for years and there is a plethora of information to be found out about him on line. I will not reinvent the wheel here, but I will share more about what I found regarding Tim’s friends.
Birds of a feather…flock together
Most of us who’ve tried to research Tim LaHaye know that it’s near impossible to find a complete and current list of his CNP members. LaHaye’s secrecy is not limited to CNP, he seems to be very selective about his level of transparency. It’s always offensive to me that these “men of God” refuse to be 100% transparent with their associations and with their finances. When asking myself, “Why don’t they (all discernment ministries you may believe are credible right now) warn?” The answer wasn’t hard to find once I saw this:
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The image is a screen shot ‘of’ the member list in 2003, which is as far back as I could see on the website. You can search for yourself through the years of the members list at this site:
Just know that on today’s website for Pre-Trib Research Center there is not a “Members list,” and now that I’ve drawn attention to it here the archive may not be around too long either.
Look closely at the names. While you are reviewing the list, think of who that particular person shares their ministry with, whom they speak alongside, books they promote, and who they warn you of, and whom they NEVER touch.
Some people may say, “Just because they are on this list means nothing,” “you can’t lump them all together!” To them I say this; when I received the newsletters, and the warnings in years past written by those on this list, they presented their material in like manner. I recall all the links and associations they made between Pagitt, Driscoll, Hybels, and McLaren, and then reported it as a vast conspiracy of Emergent Church infiltrating the Evangelical non-denominational “Bible believing” churches. The same method of association and working together on projects is exactly what I am employing here. Does the method always apply? Can one assume that because, let’s pick a name randomly from the list above…Mr.Bill Perkins, Bill Perkins of Compass International is on this list; he employes many of the same speakers on this list, he has had an extensive career writing for Chuck Missler at Koinonia House, and using Missler and others on the Steeling the Mind Conferences. Is it possible that Perkins, Missler, and Tim LaHaye have connections to one another that prohibit them from exposing one another when they find out that their “brother” is not behaving in a godly manner? Have you ever read an exposition by Missler on Tim LaHaye and his Moonie money? Have you ever read a Berean Call letter from Dave Hunt on Chuck Missler’s connection to William Welty the New Ager who’s Missler’s associate over at SwanSat? Have you read the latest book by Terry James where he goes into detail about the Religious Right’s Conservative political ties to infiltrate and sway the body of Christ to constantly approve of wars under the guise of “Conservatism and Americana Propaganda?” When was the last time Jimmy DeYoung, Brannon Howse’s dear friend, ever exposed Chuck Missler? Remember that time Thomas Ice exposed Norman Geisler’s teaching of Thomas Aqains? Oh, that’s right that never happened. Well, there was that time when Mark Hitchcock exposed Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s links to the Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism, oh oops, that never happened either.
Bedfellows of Tim LaHaye
Chuck Smith wasn’t the only shocking “guest” over at the Pre-Trib Study Group Conference that I found. Click on the thumbnails to enlarge:
For me, the information I gathered on those who speak and share the stage with Tim LaHaye is exactly, “Why They Do Not Warn,” about Tim LaHaye.
David Hocking, Chuck Missler, Dave Hunt, Mike Gendron, Jimmy DeYoung, all those named above who participate with Tim LaHaye, none of them are going to Expose Tim LaHaye’s connection to Rev. Moon, or tell you about the secretive Council for National Policy, that is ecumenical, and buys off people in other countries, part of the dispose of one tyrant for another tyrant that the US can control modality. Click on the thumbnails…
