controlled opposition

I’m gonna knock you out

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There are people who “warn” you about false doctrines and false Christs but with a slight of hand they are promoting false doctrines, covering for their friends, and for a  time make “frienemies” for a mutual cause serving their dual purposes. It’s not really that hard to find out who they are and who they support. Here are some tell tell signs of a double agent.

Identifiers of the Double-minded, fork tongued, fake discernment camps:

1) They write extensively on ONE topic while seemingly ignoring other topics.

example: Speaker A warns exclusively on “Emergent” but never on the corrupt churches they speak at for their conferences.

2) They write extensively on ONE topic while seemingly ignoring other topics.

example: Site that warns on New Age Movement but never addresses the New Age Movement’s influence on the churches they speak at or sell their books at.

3) They warn on a number of false doctrines: Emergent, Purpose Driven, Influence of Rome, Islam, Post-Modernism; however they never disclose the role of the primary church they speak at in any of those areas. Miraculously the role of the very churches they attend to do their conferences are never mentioned in the same vast conspiracies that seem to encompass all of Christianity except the one they prefer to do their business with.

4) They may take on the golden goose on occasion and warn about favored and adored Pastors, however, they continue to work with those same people outside of the area that you are familiar with which may be but not limited to the following:

Movies, Books, international markets, exchanging fellow speakers, authors, experts into other denominations such as Baptists, Nazarene, Presbyterian, and other various forms of Non-Denominational churches.

5) They are members of “various boards” for various “ministries” and/or “churches” and/or “institutions” that are both in the US and/or other countries, however they NEVER fully disclose which boards they are members of for any of these.

6) They have various sites for one ministry, ghost sites, and/or they use various people and sources for their various sites but retain the impression that they are the “expert” and do not disclose that they are receiving their “information” from others who do their grunt work.

7) They have the same vague bio on every site they are on, for every book and/or film they’ve ever done. You can’t find out specific information and it appears they appear from nowhere but are suddenly experts and suddenly the “go to guy/girl” on the topic they are espoused to be an expert on.

8) They will “expose” their friends for certain mistakes but ignore the greater sins they are aware of because they have long loyalty ties to the person and/or their funds to their various ministries depend on whether or not they cover by saying nothing, or limiting what they say to only address vague concerns meanwhile turning the table on the person who brings up the suspicion.

9) They are part of a vast network of “volunteers” and people who seek to remain anonymous when in reality it’s only one or two people trolling the internet using other people’s material for their own gain.

10) LOOK AT THEIR LINKS PAGES, WHO COMMENTS, WHO LINKS TO THEM, WHO THEY SHARE PULPITS WITH, WHOM THEY’VE HAD EXTENSIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH, AND THAT WILL TELL YOU WHERE THEIR LOYALTIES LIE. They will send you an email saying “Check out this latest expose” and their own home page shows they are promoting the BFF of the person they just exposed!! That means it’s controlled opposition and meant to mislead and distract.

Wake up ppl.

**bonus qualifiers:

They are one person but they write volumes of books and/or movies and travel the WORLD on no other income outside of their love offering for having them over to speak!??

If it is a Church, and they are not successful and are often at risk of “going under” financially, however they seemingly have a wellspring of fund$ that comes to the rescue at every single “brink of destruction” moment, which is always dubbed as a “work of God.” Chances are they are getting money from a slush fund somewhere, or, they all have the same benevolent grand-pu-bah that sends money in emergencies.

They have Non-believer experts at their church speak from the pulpit whom they say they are “praying for” however after decades long relationships the unsaved is no more swayed for Christ than the day they first met, so maybe they’re both “birds of a feather.”

They have LLC’s, INC’s, 501c’s, lawyers, and advisers, extensive lawsuit trails, change addresses and phone numbers more often than Tammy Fae changed her fake eyelashes.

They have counterintelligence training.

They are a “Pastor” with absolutely no formal training and/or theological knowledge.

They are a “Pastor” with many degrees, honorary doctorates, Master’s of Divinity, however they know nothing nor teach any doctrinal truths from the pulpit.

They have Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, Linkedin, blogs, podcasts, and video libraries of all their expert sermons, advice, topical speeches, however you have to pay for them.

Slight of hand: False Prophet Chuck Missler still on Speaker Schedule with other Calvary Chapel “Discerners”

Chuck Missler a False Prophet

Chuck Missler has been exposed for his myriad, some might say quantum leap, into full fledged apostasy. He’s been exposed over the years and more recently for endorsing a book by his friend and board member Steve Berger on Necromancy, “Have Heart.” Chuck Missler has also been exposed to having ties with a New Age believer, William Welty, and for perpetuating a centralized form of currency in Africa called the “Auric;” see here for article.  Chuck Missler continues to have ties to Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and speaks for the Creation Science Fellowship; see here for article. Chuck Missler has also direct ties to the Vatican via “Father Justo Lacunza Balda” an advisor to Chuck Missler (Google it). All this mounting evidence that Chuck Missler is amiss and yet people whom you’ve been led to believe are great “Discerners” of  Apostasy, Heresy, Emergent Church, and New Age continue to take the platform with Chuck Missler, who is really a proponent of all that the other speakers say they are against.  Is it because they don’t know about Chuck Missler? Certainly they know? I know there is one man on the above speaker schedule whom I directly contacted with my concerns about Chuck Missler. I did get a reply when I asked why he was speaking with Chuck Missler in (was formerly) February 2012, “I WILL NOT GO THERE,” was the answer I got, referring to the topic of Missler. Well, don’t be fooled when you go to the Link for this Conference and you see the portraits of the speakers with one man missing, because he’s still on the schedule as of today, January 20, 2012. There’s still time I guess for these “Discerners” to come forward and separate themselves from a False prophet who teaches and endorses heresy, but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting.

**Above links DO NOT constitute as an endorsement of the site. N4TM provides links for information and reference and does not agree with all content or opinions voiced on other “blogs.”

**UPDATE** Miraculously overnight something happened. Two names on the above “Scheduled Speakers,” David Hocking (Hope for Today), and Roger Oakland (Understand the Times, Intl.) are not on the PDF Brochure for Titus213 Red River Prophecy Conference. Although as of 60 seconds ago the above schedule is still on the website. I have been told these two “Discerners” are no longer on the docket to speak. This is unofficial news and the site seems a little misleading to say the least, deceptive at best, but maybe that is for my benefit. Would Roger Oakland and David Hocking make any official statement about “Pulling out” of this Missler Conference? I doubt it because they have more to answer for beside Missler. Missler’s connections go far deeper and wider than this silly conference. Their relationship with Missler extenuates past Red River Bible Conference and Missler’s cohorts reach back around to both Oakland and Hocking. Hocking has many unsavory ties and these gentleman aren’t about to forfeit their livelihoods for the sake of standing on pure doctrinal truth. They’ve had ample time and opportunity until now and I don’t see it happening anytime soon. Take the information for what it’s worth.The trickery will continue and perhaps someone will attempt to slander me for bringing attention to this conference; or better yet they can continue to ignore me and my posts since I’m so ineffective anyway. Bravo, Roger and David, and those organizers of the Red River Bible Conference.

**Update** I see that Titus213hope.com has set up a whole new site to advertise for their 2012 conference that at one time had Roger Oakland speaking alongside False Prophet Heretic Chuck Missler. Rather than drop Chuck Missler, some speakers dropped out over the controversy: David Hocking, Roger Oakland and Ray Yungen. These speakers as well as the website I linked to that advertised for this have moved to this site: http://www.titus213hope.com/page1.php

November 10,2011 Screenshot of speakers

2 Corinthians 6:13-18

13 Now for a recompense in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

**See my most recent post on Chuck Missler, Posted 8.13.12 Chuck Missler is Amiss.”

Update. I just saw this on YouTube, it’s for a “Discernment Conference” in 2011. Notice all the “Discerners.” The Network that Discerns together stays together…

*Caryl Matrisciana *Roger Oakland *Ray Yungen *Warren Smith *Sandy Simpson

Just in case you were wondering where did Roger Oakland go? He really didn’t go anywhere, he’s still here: http://www.rogeroakland.com/ still getting advertising and speaking spots. The rest of the lot are still yammering about too. They are the network, too much invested to disappear.

Jesuits beget Jesuits: Norman Geisler Veritas & Calvary Chapel Bible College

Veritas Evangelical Seminary

Affiliation
Veritas Evangelical Seminary is a free standing inter-denominational institution with its own Board of Directors, without affiliation to any particular church or denomination.

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Board of Directors

  • Luman R. (Roger) Wing (San Diego, CA)—Research Scientist [Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa Board Member, former UTT Board Member, Pastor Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa]
  • Don Stewart (Laguna Niguel, CA)—Author/Speaker [Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa Board Member, Pastor's Perspective co-host, His Channel]
  • David Shirley (Murrieta, CA)—Pastor/Educator [Calvary Chapel Pastor Westminster London,England]
  • Joseph M. Holden (Winchester, CA)—President [Calvary Chapel Bible College Academic Adviser & Teacher]
  • Brian Brodersen (Costa Mesa, CA)—Pastor/Chairman [Calvary Chapel Bible College Vice President, Assistant Pastor Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa]

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(Veritas Evangelical Seminary) Adjunct Teachers/Guest Lecturers

Ergun Caner (Missler/Compass, ISCA/Geisler)
Arnold Fruchtenbaum ( Radio Free Church/John Higgins, Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism/Billy Graham (UN))
Ed Hindson (Missler/Compass)
Thomas Ice (Missler/Compass)
J. Randall Price (Missler/Compass)
Brian Nixon (Calvary Chapel of Albuquerque Pastoral Staff/Skip Heitzig, Publishing staff CCCM/Chuck Smith, Word for Today/Don Stewart&Chuck Smith)
Ron Rhodes (Missler/Compass)
William E. Nix (
Jay H. Smith (

Calvary Chapel Bible College: Guest Teachers/Lecturers

Dr. Richard Bennett, Cheryl Brodersen, Joey Buran, Charlie Campbell John Chubik

Dr. Paul Copan, John Courson, Dr. Ed Bulkley, Dr. Norman Geisler, Ken Graves,

Skip Heitzig, Jack Hibbs, Bob Hoekstra, Sean Housman, Poncho Juarez, Todd Kent

David Guzik, Wayne Taylor, Rafael Manzanares, Don McClure, John Millhouse

Norman Geisler Author of the Chicago Statement of 1978, formulated post PhD. from Jesuit School, Loyola University; is the Founder of Veritas Evangelical Seminary, and founder of International Society of Christian Apologetics (ISCA). Geisler is a part of Calvary Chapel Bible College, a frequent speaker at Calvary Chapel Churches, and conversely all of his Board Members of Veritas are Calvary Chapel related Pastors and/or Speakers and/or CC Board Members of other Calvary Chapels. The Chicago Statement of 1978 was signed by over 300 Evangelicals, including David Hocking and Josh McDowell to name a few.

Now some would have you to believe these people are not one in the same. What do you think now that you see the evidence?

Geisler, Missler, Smith, Graham

Chuck Missler admits he was a co-laborer with Chuck Smith at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa for over 25 years, it’s in his bio on every site Chuck admits to running. Some would have you to believe Chuck Missler and Chuck Smith have little to do with one another now, in spite of the obvious facts that Chuck Missler speaks at Calvary Chapels and his organization: Compass.org/Steeling the Mind propagates the same roll call of speakers at various Calvary Chapels across America and abroad. Maybe we need to see a  more recent connection. How about this:

This is from a site called “Darwin is dead” site address is:

http://www.darwinisdead.com/Creation%20Science%20Fellowship%20of%20Calvary%20Chapel.htm

“Creation Science Fellowship of Calvary Chapel meets 7:30 P.M. the first and third  Saturday of each month at 3000 West MacArthur Blvd in Santa Ana, California. The six-story LOGOS Building is located just west of Fairview Rd and MacArthur Blvd, and is adjacent to the main campus of Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa.  Admission is free.  Parking is free.  We are open to the public.” Source: darwinisdead.com (not an endorsement)

If you view the page you will see that is related to CCCM and you’ll see the speakers they have.

February 12, 2011 – Special extra meeting on the 2nd Saturday of February – Chuck Missler, Ph.D. (Biblical Studies) spoke on the topic, “Cosmic Electricity: A Billion, Billion, Billion, Billion Times Stronger Than Gravity!”

Chuck Missler appears to still be close to Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Chuck Missler provides CC’s with their list of “Speakers” constantly. Norman Geisler is a Jesuit trained PHD(not an endorsement of the site). Geisler has stated along the same lines of Chuck Missler that he believes UFO’s are really demonic Nephelim. Geisler wrote a couple “Covenants” in his lifetime that gained the “Speakers/Pastors” that are involved in Calvary Chapel. All of Norman Geisler’s board members are related to Calvary Chapel. Norman Geisler may be a subversive Jesuit who is begetting further Jesuits by his involvement in CC Bible College and Veritas. Chuck Missler, CNP member shares his men with CC and Geisler. They are one in the same. There is no “discernment” there are no “watchman” this is a highly designed well oiled machine. I pray you research all that I’ve presented here.

The Building where Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa holds their “Creation Science Fellowship” meetings is in the same building that Samaritan’s Purse (Franklin Graham) has an office.

Click on picture for enlarged version. I’m sure the use of Samaritan’s Purse and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa has nothing to do with each other. Just like Skip Heitzig and Greg Laurie being on the Billy Graham Evangelical Association board has nothing to do with Calvary Chapel. I’m sure Arnold Frauchtenbaum’s attendance and signature of Lausanne Covenant (LCJE- Lausanne Consultation of Jewish Evangelicalism run by Billy Graham) has nothing to do with anything either. The Lausanne Covenant is part of the United Nations and World Council of Churches, but that has nothing to do with a one-world-apostate-ecumenical-interdenominational-false church. Billy Graham’s Masonic ties and work with the Vatican has nothing to do with Veritas, Calvary Chapel Bible College, shared board members, man issued and signed covenants. I’m sure it’s all nothing.

You will not find a “Discernment” ministry that has anything to do with book deals or conference speakers related to Calvary Chapel truly exposing what is going on within Calvary Chapel. Do not expect any “Researcher” or “Speaker” who shows up at a Calvary Chapel to tell you who is on whose board or who is on the “pass go” list. Some discernment sites and “speakers” may give the appearance of warning about Calvary Chapel’s heresy but they may be playing you for a fool to keep you preoccupied with some exposure while they are busy covering up for their friends.

jesuits beget jesuits

Resist

“Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” James 4:7

re·sist [ri-zist]

verb (used with object)

1. to withstand, strive against, or oppose: to resist infection; to resist temptation.
2. to withstand the action or effect of: to resist spoilage.
3. to refrain or abstain from, especially with difficulty or reluctance.

Discernment vs Discernment

Why is it so difficult to understand that we are supposed to ‘Resist’ the Devil? Is it that we have not yet learned how to? Are we too lazy? Do we depend on those who are supposed to be our “Shepherds” or on those who have “Discernment?” Do we trust in others more so than the leading of the Holy Spirit and learning the Word of God? Have we become so vain, so “rich and need of nothing” that we don’t recognize our own poverty and nakedness?

In the past few days there has been an interesting “Expose” of a false prophet. This false prophet has been exposed for being a false prophet in the past, however this latest ‘expose’ simply put a more direct link to a greater evil than just being a fool and an ignoramus. Although the information is sensational it seems to have not even caused a minor ripple throughout the “Discernment” world. In particular all those who have been labeled as ‘pillars of truth’ and ‘purveyors of God’s Word’ charged with the duty to protect the sheep from wolves seem to have fallen asleep on this one. Asleep, or willfully complicit with the powers that be to seek to suppress this story? To be perfectly clear; There are those in the world of “Discernment” that are purposely withholding the truth and avoiding a whole segment of False Teaching, False Teachers, Heresy, False Prophets and the like. Do not count on anyone in particular to lead you to the truth, save the Holy Spirit. If you want to know what is going on in the realm of Apostasy you cannot rely on the old “usual suspects” to “reveal” anything to you. You have to do your own testing and research!

It’s not you, it’s me.

I’ve warned about Rick Warren and Chuck Smith. I’ve warned about Billy Graham and Bill Bright. I’ve warned about Jerry Boykin and his Jesuit ties. I’ve warned about Glenn Beck, the Conservative Right links to NAR, Seven Mountains (Dominionist dogma), the Pope and much more. I’ve researched and exposed the early beginnings of Calvary Chapel Movement and it’s ties to Jesuit Nelson Bunker Hunt, CNP Tim LaHaye, Leonard Sweet, Chuck Fromm, and more. It seems to fall on deaf ears. It’s not you, it’s me. It’s obviously something in my delivery or simple vanity to try and reveal that there are WOLVES in Christendom that are liars seeking to keep you lulled asleep and distracted with the wide road. I’ve sent out emails detailing Chuck Missler’s connections and his heresy to “Discernment” sites that get hundreds of thousands of hits a day whereas I get 1/100th of that! And to no avail. The information on Chuck Missler, Chuck Smith, Calvary Chapel, Jesuits, ties to Rome are paramount, even far beyond what I’ve explained here on my measly little blog. How is it that bible scholars, world travelers, vetted career researchers who have exposed countless false teachers seem to be completely and utterly blind to those whom they’ve co-ministered with for decades? Their compatriots and their links to the very same evil backers they have sought to expose go on unchallenged. Apparently some have excused those “Discernment” sites stating that YOU, the average Sheep, cannot “digest” the weightier things of Apostasy and heresy and thus have succumbed to alerting you ‘piecemeal’ the dangers that await you. I submit to you this day that there is a deep and seedy agenda taking place and the warnings that have been sent out, although heard but not heeded, will only lead to a deepening delusion. I submit as well,that those with ministries set up who travel the world and say they are speaking/teaching of prophesy and alerting you are doing something else entirely. A narrative is being propagated. A universal narrative that is not limited to the US but truly reaches globally and its vainglory is to entrap you to follow the most diabolical and evil plan yet. Lastly, I am intentionally not leading you to the conclusion, because the majority say that you are too dumb to understand; however I must have faith God can and will call out His own.
I will only, and can only, pray that you do your utmost to seek to find out what is truth and what is not.