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Chuck Missler is Amiss.

*Disclaimer: Videos presented on this post are for Examining what Missler is teaching and what/whom he has learned from they are not to be considered endorsements!

Stop at 0:24 seconds! Who is Rabbi “Moses” Cordevaro? Google Results were for Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, a Kabbalist. Here are some hits:

• The renowned Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, head of the Rabbinical Court of Tzfat, wrote a book called Pardes Rimonim in 1549. On page 68, he writes that the secrets of the Torah are revealed in its letters through many means, including “skipping of letters”. Source: http://www.glazerson.com/torahcodeskeptics.htm (emphasis mine link not an endorsement)

•   “One of the greatest of all Kabbalists was Rabbi Moshe Cordovero. He was born in 1522 in Safed, the city that was soon to become famed as a center of Kabbalah. At a young age, he already gained a reputation as an extroardinary genius. Besides his knowledge in Kabbalah, he was a Talmudic scholar and philosopher of the highest rank, and was widely respected in these fields. He was even one of the four to receive the special semichah-ordination from Rabbi Yaakov Beirav in 1538, along with Rabbis Yosef Caro (Cordovero’s teacher in Jewish Law), Moshe of Trani and Yosef Sagis, all of whom were much older and better known than the young prodigy.” Source: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/83771/jewish/Rabbi-Moshe-Cordovero.htm (link not an endorsement)

•   Decoding the Dogma Within the Enigma: The Life, Works, Mystical Piety and SystematicThought of Rabbi Moses Cordoeiro (aka Cordovero;Safed, Israel, 1522-1570) Book by Kabalist Rabbi Moses Cordeiro (Cordevaro) 

•   Rabbi Moses Cordovero’s Introduction to Kabbalah (Or Ne’erav) Book sold on this site: http://www.mysefer.com/product.asp?cookiecheck=yes&P_ID=3993&strPageHistory=related (link not an endorsement)

Chuck Missler and Lambert Dolphin (pictured).

Missler’s video above is on the topic of “Bible Codes” and more specifically “EQUIDISTANT LETTER SEQUENCES.” When I Googled just “Equidistant Letter Sequences” an article written by Lambert Dolphin, Chuck Missler’s old time friend, popped up. Coincidentally the entire article sounds like what Chuck Missler gave in his short video; more importantly Lambert’s article pointed me in the right direction, finding out where Dolphin and Missler get their “ideas” from! Below is an excerpt from one of Mr. Dolphin’s posts:

“Hidden Scientific Codes in Genesis”

“It has become fashionable for contemporary Bible teachers to claim that Genesis is not intended to give a scientific, detailed account of how God created the universe, but that rather it is often said that the Hebrew prose of the opening book of the Bible is painted in broad brush strokes only. However, when one looks at a level below the obvious translation of the text into meaningful words understood as human language, the text of Genesis actually contains an encrypted code revealing the geometry of time and space, patterns for all living things, and the roots of all every alphabet and every language known to man!

Some years ago a Jewish scholar, Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation noticed that the ordered arrangement of the Hebrew letters of Genesis 1:1 was not random. If 27 letters of the Hebrew alphabet were assigned a numerical value from 1 to 27 (with Aleph being counted as a “0”) then Genesis 1:1 (and all the subsequent text thus far examined) can be easily decoded into patterns using a counting base of 3. (emphasis added)

It should be noted that Tenen’s work is not the same thing as Biblical numerology—where numbers occurring in the text of the Bible (such as 3, 4, 6, 12, 40, etc.) can be seen to have symbolic meaning. Likewise Tenen is not dealing with what is usually thought of as esoteric Jewish Kabalistic mysticism, or Christian mysticism, in his analysis. What he has discovered is that the text of the Bible is actually an incredible computer code with built-in error correction features and levels of complexity. These findings taken all by themselves apart from faith or religious belief system immediately suggest the Bible is indeed much more than the inspired words of religious writers, but must in fact be the very Word of God.

Much wild and fanciful material has been written on the so called “Bible codes” in recent years–and most of it is either erroneous or at best useless. However the actual hidden structures in the Bible are really there and attest eloquently to the Divine Authorship of our Bibles. The definitive book on this subject is The Cosmic Codes, by Chuck Missler. It is extremely thorough and carefully written.” Source: Lambert Dolphin http://www.ldolphin.org/Introgen.html (not an endorsement. Dolphin’s article links to K-House)

N4TM- In the above excerpt Dolphin is misleading the reader. He says “Jewish Scholar” Stan Tenen, Stan Tenen is a Kabbalist fair and square. I have posted below Stan Tenen’s own video where he gives the exact explanation for ELS’s and it sounds exactly like what Missler explained. Another aspect where Dolphin distorts the truth is when he states that Tenen is “not” dealing with Kabbalistic mysticism, but according to Tenen’s own words that is exactly what he’s done. Make sure to watch the whole  3 parts of Tenen’s videos, it’s thirty minutes but if you watch and listen with discernment it explains a lot about him, and he is who Lambert and Missler are getting their information from! Picture of Lambert Dolphin “at his computerized Ouija board” was taken from his own site! Below is one more excerpt from another one of Dolphin’s posts:

“Editors Note: I have long been interested in the possibility of hidden codes in the Hebrew and Greek texts of the Bible. Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation has been doing remarkable, and I believe meaningful, computer analysis of Genesis from which he has gleaned what would appear to be some amazing geometrical properties of the universe. Recently interest in Torah Codes has mushroomed both among Christians such as Grant Jeffrey, numerous groups of Torah scholars in Israel, and others, for instance The Official Torah Codes Page .

I welcome Uri Marcus’ article which helps bring balance and reason to this discussion since many extravagant claims are being made. Lambert Dolphin, February 22, 1997. Thanks to Grant Jeffrey and Yacob Rambsel also for their response at the end of this article.” Source: Lambert Dolphin http://www.ldolphin.org/torahcodes.html (not an endorsement, the links were hypertext in his original post and are also not endorsed by N4TM)

Missler’s Video above has more details in it that are red flags but I am not going to expound on everything in this post.

Stan Tenen of the Meru Foundation:

Stan Tenen read what? Kabbalah books. He also read every other type of Mystical literature. In this video he doesn’t mention reading the New Testament. I don’t want to waste too much time researching Mr. Tenen, but you get the point with this thirty minute video don’t you? Do you know, or can you see the vanity, the divination being practiced? Can you discern the symbols he uses, and that he ultimately says that all religions are true (part 3 video)?

Stan Tenen is just one Kabbalist where Missler and Lambert are getting their information. They are basing their “biblical” knowledge and discernment based of mystics, rabbi’s who are not converted to believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah, and yet they are “using” their bible decoding system? What is the purpose here? Is Missler trying to encode the listener and students he has? I never heard of Kabbalah until I listened to a Chuck Missler CD on “exposing Kabbalah.” I never paid any attention to Quantum physics until I heard Mr. Missler allude to it at nausea in his teachings.

Someone asked me in the comment section on a previous post, Slight of hand: False Prophet Chuck Missler still on Speaker Schedule with other Calvary Chapel Discerners, “You failed to say what the heresy was. He s the best Bible scholar l know on tv or internet. In fact possibly one of the very few l would call a scholar on tv. Please do let me know what heresy you re talking about.” I told this commenter that I was not ignoring her comment but rather I was praying about whether or not to do a separate post on Missler’s heresy.

Hindsight is 20/20

It was not until I completely left Calvary Chapel that I recognized the error that seems so clear to me now. Missler’s air of expertise and his vast vocabulary of areas we the common people have little knowledge of can be impressive and also deceptive. Since I don’t know the first thing about “M-theory” when Missler spoke of it and I had only known him from Calvary Chapel and Prophesy Conferences held in Churches or sponsored by churches held in conference centers, one assumed it was biblical or at least that Missler knew what he is talking about. I sought to explain how Missler is Amiss, and for me it doesn’t take much to come to this conclusion. This video is not how I learned about Missler being false it’s a demonstration and an example of his false teachings. Start examining what he’s teaching. I watch a video, such as the one at the beginning of this post, I stop and ask a question, Who is Missler referring to? I looked him up (Rabbi Moshe Cordovero), the guy is a Kabbalist! Then I continue to hear the rest of the video, he’s talking about ELS’s; What is that I ask myself, and I Googled it. I see Lambert Dolphin has written on the topic. From previous research on Missler I have come to know how lengthy Dolphin’s relationship with Missler is. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dolphin is one of Missler’s ghost writers. I read Dolphin’s article, he keeps referring to Stan Tenen, who’s that guy? Stan Tenen is a Kabbalist. Once I watched the full 30 minute video “Frist light” by Stan Tenen it sounded exactly like what Chuck Missler spoke on in the video on ELS’s. It doesn’t take much more than that for me to realize that Mr. Missler is learning from Kabbalists and he’s rewriting their teachings and putting a “Christianese” flair on it and selling it off as though he has some inside tract on decoding the bible. I could go a step further and ask is Missler encoding his subjects while he’s presumably teaching about ‘decoding’ the Bible? On another video I’ve seen of Missler, with Sid Roth on “It’s Supernatural,”  Missler is spewing his “Aliens are Demons, fallen Angels, ie, Nephilim,” (Not an Endorsement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54DRUR57Oos) I discerned that he’s taking scripture out of context and putting his own “theory” on it. Or is it his theory? Maybe his theory on Demons being UFO’s came from his friends Grant Jeffery and/or Tom Horn who study the paranormal. I’ve reported on Missler’s CNP connections, his ties to Tim LaHaye, his SwanSat business, attempting to create a single currency for Africa via the Auric, not to mention his false prophesy of the Y2K computer malfunction that never happened that is public knowledge. If you look at Chuck Missler and test his teachings against scripture and not the other way around it will not be long before Scripture tells you his teaching are false. What he’s doing by quoting Enoch (Apocrypha & non-canonized) and quoting Kabbalah and trying to use Mystical and Extra-Biblical teachings to “illuminate” the scriptures is backwards and it’s called Divination.

divination

DIVINATION, n. L., to foretell. See Divine.

1. The act of divining; a foretelling future events, or discovering things secret or obscure, by the aid of superior beings, or by other than human means. The ancient heathen philosophers divided divination into two kinds, natural and artificial. Natural divination was supposed to be effected by a kind of inspiration or divine afflatus; artificial divination was effected by certain rites, experiments or observations, as by sacrifices, cakes, flour, wine, observation of entrails, flight of birds, lots, verses, omens, position of the stars, &c.

2. Conjectural presage; prediction.

Leviticus 19: 31

31 ‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.

Deuteronomy 18:10

10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,

2 Kings 17:17

17 And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger.

Leviticus 20:6-7

‘And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God.

My most favorite scripture that helps me with this sort of discernment:

“If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage, to entice you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall put away the evil from your midst.” Deuteronomy 13:1-5

Advocates for Faith and Freedom Defend “Pastor’s” civil liberties

A story broke last week over a “Pastor” who was arrested for reading the Bible aloud at a Department of Motor Vehicles building in California. The video snippets were played on the national media outlets like, Fox News Channel, and distributed throughout “Christian” “News” organizations as well. The headline of  a “Pastor” being “Arrested” is sensational news, especially when Right Wing Christian Conservatives are hot and heavy for a “persecution” story. I came across this “Breaking News” a week late, however, I thought it noteworthy to do my own background investigating. Here is what I found concerning this grave civil liberties issue.

The “Pastor” arrested is not a Pastor.

The story everyone is told, or dare I say ‘sold,’ is that Mark Mackey is a “Pastor” at “Calvary Chapel Hemet.” Truth be told, Mark Allen Mackey is not a Pastor at Calvary Chapel Hemet. The Senior Pastor at Calvary Chapel Hemet is Gary Johnson and he’s been the senior pastor “for over 30 years.” Another man “arrested” in conjunction to this story is, Brett Coronado. Brett Coronado states on the video below that he, “is  the Assistant Pastor of Calvary Chapel Hemet.”  You would be hard pressed to find any evidence of Brett Coronado listed as an Assistant Pastor at CC Hemet,although I did find old video of him preaching there where he’s referred to as “Pastor Brett Coronado.” However, Mark Mackey is NOT a Pastor at Calvary Chapel Hemet, nor was he ever, as far as I can ascertain from my research. I did find that both Mark Allen Mackey and Brett Coronado have started their own church called, Reconciled Christian Fellowship.

According to the Press Enterprise who quoted Gary Johnson, the real senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Hemet, Gary had this to say about his two “former” brothers;

CHP Officer Darren Meyer, who made the arrest, said the group was warned repeatedly that they needed a permit leading up to the day they were arrested without warning.

Coronado and Mackey are no longer part of Calvary Chapel Church in Hemet. They have formed their own church, Reconciled Fellowship, said Calvary Chapel Pastor Gary Johnson.

Johnson said in an email that the men had almost been arrested several times prior to the incident and knew they needed a permit prior to going to the DMV.

“I had been attempting to temper their style of evangelism,” Johnson said. “They revolted at the idea that they were wrong and eventually left the church …”

Coronado and Mackey are set to return to court April 11 to be arraigned on the misdemeanor charge. Tyler said they may file an emergency appeal before entering a plea or going to trial.

Mackey and Coronado are no longer a part of “Calvary Chapel Hemet” however, this is NOT reflected in the endless articles you can find when searching this story. Pastor Gary Johnson is on record as stating that they were constantly at risk for arrest when they went out “Evangelizing” and it appears the two “brothers” (Mackey and Coronado) knew an arrest was looming.  Maybe they wanted the arrest to happen, and they conveniently filmed the whole event. In the video I posted above Brett Coronado himself suggests that the video appears staged: (1:13 min marker) “It almost seems unreal, like it was staged, but it wasn’t.”  It does seem staged, especially when cohort Mark Mackey initially states that they are gathered there “Today at the courthouse, I’m sorry the DMV.” (1:25 min marker) It is as though he was outside of his usual element, the courthouse, and forgot that they were there to record their arrest. They had been warned previously according to the article from Press Enterprise above that they needed a permit to preach outside the DMV, so it was not a shock to them that they could be arrested. Since their misdemeanor charge they have since sought counsel, via the Advocates for Faith and Freedom organization, a “not-for-profit,” that defends civil liberties (and coincidentally has represented for Calvary Chapel College  Murrietta.)

More Facts on this Story

We now know that Mark Mackey is not, nor ever has been, in a capacity as a “Pastor” for Calvary Chapel Hemet. We now know that Brett Coronado, former “Assistant Pastor” at CCH, is now lead Pastor at Reconciled Christian Fellowship where his cohort Mark Mackey also teaches. Let us also pay attention to the fact that the video shown repeatedly across media outlets is ONE YEAR old. The original date of the incident was February 2, of 2011. The video is now being released, why? I suggest the video is released now to generate heat, political fire, sensation, and skew public opinion. The charges against these two men have been taken down to a misdemeanor yet their “counsel, Advocates for Faith and Freedom” are seeking counter suits to the Federal level stating that they were wrongfully charged and arrested.

“Advocates for Faith & Freedom has filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of these three men for violation of their right to free speech and for unlawful arrest, but that case has been stayed pending the resolution of the state court prosecution. A copy of our federal complaint can be found [here].” Source: Advocates for Faith and Freedom. (See also full disclosure of “Demurrer to the Criminal Complaint” filed by Mackey and Coronado’s attorney/representation Advocates for Faith and Freedom Robert H. Tyler and Jennifer L. Monk, on 12.22.11)

It seems as though, these two men who had been warned amply enough sought purposefully to get arrested and since being arrested are now trying to make a mockery of the system and a name for themselves as “persecuted” when in fact they are acting like fools. They appear to be Media hungry, and seeking to make a name for themselves. It’s all highly political when you consider those who work for Advocates for Faith and Freedom (also known as Tyler & Monk, LLP) and what their intentions truly are. I would not put it past these two and whomever they are taking their “legal” advice from to have staged the whole show.

Similarly, another “Calvary Chapel” affiliate, nephew to Chuck Smith Sr., Chuck Fromm, was in the news last year for holding a “bible study” in his home and coming under “persecution” for it. However, when I looked further into that story I found that he had been warned also due to the large volume of people attending his “Church” in his home as it’s listed online as, not just a “home bible study.” Clearly Chuck Fromm who runs several other financially stable ministries could afford to rent space, it was his choice to bait the law and continue to hold his weekly church services at his home, thus in my opinion not a ‘true’ victim of civil liberties affliction, but rather of sheer stupidity, or more sinister an attempt to sway public opinion as though he were a “victim” of religious freedom. In this case his representation was ‘Pacific Justice Institute’ a highly prominent advocator of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa/Murrieta College. See here for post on Chuck Fromm

Another notable tidbit, Brett Coronado and Mark Mackey list Ambassador’s Alliance on their “links” page for Reconciled Christian Fellowship. This organization is another front of “Living Waters” ministry. Both Mackey and Coronado credit their education and preaching skills from the same style derived at Living Waters, better known to you as, “Way of the Master,” a ministry with Kirk Cameron (Glenn Beck’s new friend) and Ray Comfort. Let’s pretend we don’t know about Cameron and Comfort’s links to Chuck Missler (false prophet) or Tim LaHaye (CNP founder, false teacher) or Brannon Howse (Worldview Weekend and Code blue Rally founder). The fact that all these men serve each other and seek to have the glory of men will go without saying. Also, the countless articles I’ve done as well as other bloggers on these false prophets will go without mention as well.

The Real Story are the News Agencies behind the Breaking News

On a whole other note, not to be fully diagnosed here because the matter deserves its own separate post; there is another part of this story and it’s the issue of the “News” agencies that are releasing the onslaught of faked “persecution” to the masses.  The same people who are crying foul have set up for themselves their own News Organizations and also have embedded their own operatives within main stream and alternative media to skew the public opinion toward their own gain. This may be difficult for some of you to comprehend, that the Religious Right, “Conservative Christian/Evangelical churches” would in fact seek to gain public opinion by releasing stories that gives the appearance of them being persecuted when they are not, but in fact that is exactly what I am suggesting. Don’t mistakenly trust the term “Christian” with the stories you are typically fed via some of these organizations. Some organizations are connected to one another in their own varying forms via shared,  Board of Director$, supporter$, and contributor$. Some are front$ for political gain, while others are simply there to breed the type of imagery they desire to portray for whatever sick and demented reasons they may have. Unfortunately they can, and do, hijack an occasional true story of persecution or infringement on civil liberty but these are truly minor when considering all the other spin stories. WallBuilders, One News Now, Canada Press, Christian News Wire, Christianity Today, World Net Daily, Glenn Beck, and many many others are on the payroll to disseminate stories like the one above. I wish they were truly seeking to defend our religious liberty here in America, but sadly there are those who are willfully deceptive and create stories for political gain. I can’t stress to you enough that I understand this may be difficult to believe but if you check into whose money starts most of these publications and what people they share in common it will slowly begin to unravel. It’s the story no one reports on, the misuse of the Christian right, and the one that most on the ‘Right’ don’t want to know about. Always check the sources, see what is motivating them and then as always, follow the money.

See:

Hearing Postponed for Evangelists Accused of Preaching Without Permit

Below are excerpts from “City Launches defense in DMV Demonstration” (Press Enterprise Online)

Hemet city officials and a church tried to distance themselves Thursday from two preachers who are challenging their arrest at a Department of Motor Vehicles office there last year.

The Hemet city manager’s office issued a pair of statements in response to a Fox News report after the city received angry phone calls and emails from across the country.

About 15 emails were sent to the Hemet Police Department from Virginia, Idaho, Texas and California. Some emails urged, “Why don’t we arrest kids selling lemonade?” Hemet police management assistant Tracy Palmer said.

CHP Officer Darren Meyer, who made the arrest, said the group was warned repeatedly that they needed a permit leading up to the day they were arrested without warning.

**Update**

Here is a follow up to this story, the men were found NOT GUILTY on August 13, 2013. Here is the newest post:

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/fake-pastor-arrested-for-preaching-not-guilty-of-misdemeanor-charge-hemetca-calvary-chap/

Chuck’s Convergence; Catholics are Christians Too

Clip One October 11, 2011:

http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2011_10_11.m4a   (Start at 48:10 mark; also see the transcript below.)

Transcript:

Don Stewart: Alright back we go to the phones to Orange, California with Ben on the line. Ben welcome to Pastors Perspective, Hi!

Ben: Hi how are you?

Don Stewart: Fine thank you!

Ben: I uh, I am a loyal listener, I um love going to uh your men’s conferences [Don Stewart: “Good!”] and I fellowship with a bunch of people at Calvary Chapel’s, um I visit Greg Laurie’s Harvest, and I have a question because I sometimes I have a hard time understanding um how I um, communicate with people um of the Protestant faith because I am Catholic, and sometimes we um have communication issues and, they want to get into apologetics and um, you know I love the worship and the fellowship with those – with the different people but um I’m going to hang onto my faith as well, and I am just curious what you think about it.

Don Stewart: OK, good question there Ben in fact were glad your going to these events we’re glad you listen to this program. OK Chuck what about that?

Chuck Smith: Ben I have a cousin who was a mother superior in the Catholic Church, and uh, she was just a wonderful Christian, loved her and we had great conversations together, and I didn’t try to convert her from Catholicism nor did she try to convert me uh into becoming a Catholic, its just we both recognize that uh you know we have, we had the same Lord, and the same uh faith ya know and so uh we just uh you know on those things we agreed upon we just agreed upon and we didn’t really bring up the things where there were disagreements.

Not included in the video:

Don Stewart [Minute 49:42]: Ya um again the question is Ben if you love the Lord Jesus, if you’re trusting Him and Him alone for your salvation that’s the key, what are you trusting in, what’s going to get you to heaven is it Jesus and something else or Jesus and Jesus alone and that’s the question that needs to be answered, and of course the Bible said its Jesus alone by grace through faith we’re saved, it’s not of ourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast, cause Chuck it wouldn’t be heaven would it if people were walking around bragging what they’ve done…and uh no peacocks strutin’ around, na na it’d be real miserable we’re not going to see that in heaven. Alright let’s go now to Aurora, Colorado and talk to Jay on Pastors Perspective, Jay welcome to welcome to the program [Minute 50:20].

Listen for Yourself:

Pastors Perspective 10-11-11 (Caller Ben from Orange at 48:15 min mark)

and 11-23-11 (Caller Beverly from Ontario)

Clip two November 23, 2011

Transcript below:

Host- Alrighty we’re going to Ontario California we’re going to talk to Beverly

Host-Beverly you’re on Pastors Perspective you have about a minute left so if you can state your question?

(Beverly) Caller- Yes I have a question is it right for a Catholic woman to marry a Christian man even if she’s pregnant with his child?

Chuck Smith Sr.- Well, I don’t ah see that, ah, well ah there’s going to be difficulty, uh ya know, but if you can resolve the differences, I don’t think they’re that great, and I think that you probably, ah if you’re pregnant with his child you should marry him, and of course ah I think that uh, it’s um it’s alright you can resolve the differences. and I think that uh I , ah, I know of many of that ya know.. You know Catholics are basically Christians too and uh so uh I think that uh, you know what the differences are less than much less than what a lot of people face and are overcoming in their mariages.

Chuck Jr- I think the more important questions are is he a “good” man and do they love each other.

Chuck Sr. – uh huh.

Fade to video of Chuck Smith at Harvest 2009. “Fasten Your Seat belts…”

convergence

noun meeting, junction, intersection, confluence, concentration, blending, merging, coincidence, conjunction, mingling, concurrence, conflux Hindon lies at the convergence of eight roads.

**Update: A reader sent me a link to his post dated 11-10-11 in reference to yet Another Ecumenical comment by Chuck Smith:

11/10/11

Another Voice (Rev.18:4) Click here to read full post

Calvary Chapel’s Chuck Smith Bows To Mormon God; Tells 10-yr Old Girl “Good Mormons…Will Be In Heaven”

This is quoted from the 11-9-11 “Pastor’s Perspective” call-in radio program at 36:10 min. The audio recording is: here
***
36:10 Don Stewart: To Cheyenne Wyoming…we have Alexa on the line….10 yr. old Alexa: My aunt Valerie(?) doesn’t really know the book of Mormon…so will she still go to hell?Don Stewart: Ok good question…Alexa’s got an aunt, Chuck, who is a mormon and wants to know if the mormon will go to heaven…Chuck Smith: It all depends on their relationship with Jesus Christ…and there are a lot of good Mormons who do believe in Jesus and I believe they will be in heaven, but you know we can’t do it on own righteousness or own works you know we have to depend on Jesus for our entrance into heaven…[end]

13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.  
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:13-20

Resist

“Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” James 4:7

re·sist [ri-zist]

verb (used with object)

1. to withstand, strive against, or oppose: to resist infection; to resist temptation.
2. to withstand the action or effect of: to resist spoilage.
3. to refrain or abstain from, especially with difficulty or reluctance.

Discernment vs Discernment

Why is it so difficult to understand that we are supposed to ‘Resist’ the Devil? Is it that we have not yet learned how to? Are we too lazy? Do we depend on those who are supposed to be our “Shepherds” or on those who have “Discernment?” Do we trust in others more so than the leading of the Holy Spirit and learning the Word of God? Have we become so vain, so “rich and need of nothing” that we don’t recognize our own poverty and nakedness?

In the past few days there has been an interesting “Expose” of a false prophet. This false prophet has been exposed for being a false prophet in the past, however this latest ‘expose’ simply put a more direct link to a greater evil than just being a fool and an ignoramus. Although the information is sensational it seems to have not even caused a minor ripple throughout the “Discernment” world. In particular all those who have been labeled as ‘pillars of truth’ and ‘purveyors of God’s Word’ charged with the duty to protect the sheep from wolves seem to have fallen asleep on this one. Asleep, or willfully complicit with the powers that be to seek to suppress this story? To be perfectly clear; There are those in the world of “Discernment” that are purposely withholding the truth and avoiding a whole segment of False Teaching, False Teachers, Heresy, False Prophets and the like. Do not count on anyone in particular to lead you to the truth, save the Holy Spirit. If you want to know what is going on in the realm of Apostasy you cannot rely on the old “usual suspects” to “reveal” anything to you. You have to do your own testing and research!

It’s not you, it’s me.

I’ve warned about Rick Warren and Chuck Smith. I’ve warned about Billy Graham and Bill Bright. I’ve warned about Jerry Boykin and his Jesuit ties. I’ve warned about Glenn Beck, the Conservative Right links to NAR, Seven Mountains (Dominionist dogma), the Pope and much more. I’ve researched and exposed the early beginnings of Calvary Chapel Movement and it’s ties to Jesuit Nelson Bunker Hunt, CNP Tim LaHaye, Leonard Sweet, Chuck Fromm, and more. It seems to fall on deaf ears. It’s not you, it’s me. It’s obviously something in my delivery or simple vanity to try and reveal that there are WOLVES in Christendom that are liars seeking to keep you lulled asleep and distracted with the wide road. I’ve sent out emails detailing Chuck Missler’s connections and his heresy to “Discernment” sites that get hundreds of thousands of hits a day whereas I get 1/100th of that! And to no avail. The information on Chuck Missler, Chuck Smith, Calvary Chapel, Jesuits, ties to Rome are paramount, even far beyond what I’ve explained here on my measly little blog. How is it that bible scholars, world travelers, vetted career researchers who have exposed countless false teachers seem to be completely and utterly blind to those whom they’ve co-ministered with for decades? Their compatriots and their links to the very same evil backers they have sought to expose go on unchallenged. Apparently some have excused those “Discernment” sites stating that YOU, the average Sheep, cannot “digest” the weightier things of Apostasy and heresy and thus have succumbed to alerting you ‘piecemeal’ the dangers that await you. I submit to you this day that there is a deep and seedy agenda taking place and the warnings that have been sent out, although heard but not heeded, will only lead to a deepening delusion. I submit as well,that those with ministries set up who travel the world and say they are speaking/teaching of prophesy and alerting you are doing something else entirely. A narrative is being propagated. A universal narrative that is not limited to the US but truly reaches globally and its vainglory is to entrap you to follow the most diabolical and evil plan yet. Lastly, I am intentionally not leading you to the conclusion, because the majority say that you are too dumb to understand; however I must have faith God can and will call out His own.
I will only, and can only, pray that you do your utmost to seek to find out what is truth and what is not.

Another Jesuit for Another Gospel

What do Bill Bright (Campus Crusade for Christ), Billy Graham (Billy Graham Evangelistic Association), Tim LaHaye (CNP founder, Left Behind co-author), and Chuck Smith have in common? They have all benefited financially from Nelson Bunker Hunt. Nelson Bunker Hunt is a business tycoon famous for trying to make a run on Silver (see here), an Equestrian, and something I’ve learned recently, a Jesuit for the Order of Saint Lazarus of Jerusalem. The following information is an attempt to show the relationship between Nelson Bunker Hunt and “another gospel.” The “Evangelical” Non-Denomination movement was and is funded by Socialists, Nazi-Sympathizers, Anti-Communists, Jesuits, and all in all evil people. There is a saying, “An enemy of my enemy is my friend.” This thinking leads to ‘frenemies’ and an enemy who’s a temporary friend ultimately will return to their natural state of being your enemy. God does not work this way. God’s word tells us not to yoke with unbelievers. This group of Elitists believe it’s okay to work with the enemy, to join hands, to make Covenants and oaths together for a common cause. Jesus did not have a separate gospel for Global Elites like some of the “Family” members would like to believe. I understand that all this information takes a turn down the shadowy world of conspiracy theories that the “New World Order” has Jesuits working for the return to Rome, but oddly enough, they really do have evil plans and they are increasingly revealing it themselves as though we should be grateful for their great ideas. You don’t have to believe one thing in this post. It’s not up to me to convince you that what we have been told and sold as an “Act of God” via a “Jesus Movement” is truly a conceived fabrication of men leading men and deceiving generations of Jesus Christs’ sheep. The good news is, if you’re truly called of God He can reveal the truth to you (the truth is Christian Society has chosen to follow men and not Christ and has conversely allowed idol worship, blindness, and delusion to take root).

Today’s CRU Yesterday’s Orchestrated Movement

Dr. William (Bill) Rohl Bright (1921-2003) – CNP Board of Governors (1982). Formerly fancy foods salesman. For 11 years, Bill and Vonette Bright were groomed for leadership and trained in ecumenical doctrine living in the home of Henrietta Mears,

Billy Graham (left) Bill Bright (right)

who with Charles Fuller, Harold Ockenga, J. Edwin Orr of Oxford University and Armand Gesswein worked together to establish ecumenical campus movements. President and Founder of Campus Crusade for Christ, member of the National Honorary Committee of the RHA (Religious Heritage of America), and a leading participant at the founding of the STEP Program and Foundation.

In 1951, Nelson Bunker Hunt, heir of the Hunt Oil Company fortune, and Wallace Johnson, founder of Holiday Inns, worked with and $$ funded $$ Bill Bright’s Campus Crusade for Christ to the tune of $15.5 million. In 1967, formed Christian World Liberation Front (CWLF) as a covert front for Campus Crusade, which split off and became a leading ministry in the Jesus People movement. Bunker Hunt arranged a retreat for more than 500 millionaires who pledged $20 to Campus Crusade. [Media Spotlight 22:1, p.8; Saloma 53; Diamond 51-56] SOURCE: http://www.ministers-best-friend.com/Council-for-National-Policy.html *this is not an endorsement of the site.

Inception

On the Sunset Strip, evangelist Arthur Blessitt opened the His Place nightclub and coffeehouse as a 24 hour way station for youth. At the University of California at Berkeley, Dr. Jack Sparks and some other members of Campus Crusade decided to begin a counter-cultural outreach program called the Christian World Liberation Front (CWLF) directed towards reaching campus radicals.

The ensuing groundswell of activity spawned a number of other developments as well. Realizing the need to open their churches to the hippie generation Realizing the manufactured ‘counter culture’ of drugged out hippies could also be used to further Ecumenical purposes (changes mine), many conservative pastors recruited hippie liaisons to their ministerial staff. Both Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel (in Santa Ana, California) with the recruitment of Lonnie Frisbee, and Lyle Steenis of Bethel Tabernacle (in Redondo Beach) with the recruitment of Breck Stevens found their churches radically transformed in the wake of their decisions. SOURCE: Click Here *this is not an endorsement of the site.

Campus Crusade was the organization responsible for the “evangelistic blitz” at Berkeley in 1967, when six hundred volunteers arrived at the California flagship school. About this time, the organization began to expand its domestic and international outreach to other segments of the population. Five years later its Christian convention brought out a crowd of more than eighty thousand at the Dallas Cotton Bowl, and more than one hundred thousand more attendees arrived later for a Christian rock concert. This event, Explo ’72, made Campus Crusade a pioneer force in *CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC. (LOVE SONG a famous Calvary Chapel Hippie band (still circuit singing at CC’s) was catapulted at Explo ’72) SOURCE: Here this is not an endorsement of the site.

Nelson Bunker Hunt

Nelson Bunker Hunt is on the Council for National Policy (CNP) President Executive Committee (1983); CNP Senior Executive Committee (1983-84); CNP Executive Committee (1988). Heir of the Hunt Oil Company fortune.

Financial backer of CNP, CBN, JBS.

In 1951, Bunker Hunt and Wallace Johnson, founder of Holiday Inns, worked with and funded Bill Bright’s Campus Crusade for Christ donating $15.5 million.

In 1967, Hunt formed the Christian World Liberation Front (CWLF) as a covert front for Campus Crusade, which split off and became a leading ministry in the Jesus People movement. Bunker Hunt arranged a retreat for more than 500 millionaires who pledged $20 to Campus Crusade. He once organized a paramilitary force called “Americans Volunteer Group” which he intended to use as a “death squad” against political opponents. [Hougan 55-56; Saloma 53; Diamond 51-56, 250]

Shady Dealings, from Financing Moves of God to Covert Ops

In 1967, Nelson Bunker Hunt provided Cameron Townsend, founder of the Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and the Wycliffe Bible Translators, property in Dallas for a new international translation center. Thy Will Be Done, by Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett, documents the business and political connections between Wycliffe Bible Translators, the Rockefeller family, and the CIA. The result of the dealings was the genocide of indigenous tribes in the Amazon basin, although Cam Townsend denied the deaths.

Hunt funded Ed McAteer, “the Colgate-Palmolive salesman who was the organizing force behind the politicized Fundamentalist movement… The sheer human energy amassed by wealthy SIL backers like North Carolina’s James A. Jones, one of the largest contractors for military bases in Vietnam, and oilman Nelson Bunker Hunt of Texas. ‘Bunker Hunt had helped me considerable,’ McAteer freely offered…Wycliffe Associates’ ‘500 Club’ was designed to offer the richer members a way out of service through cash; $500 or more each year was all it took to get a special certificate of membership. Some gave much more. Texas’s corporate leaders were prominent in helping Cam build SIL’s International Linguistics Center near Dallas; the Linguistics Center’s board meeting was one of those special occasions where a Rockefeller business partner like Trammel Crow could rub shoulders with an ultra rightist like Nelson Bunker Hunt. But they were the old core of supporters.” [Colby & Dennett 570, 805]

Bill Bright persuaded Nelson Bunker Hunt to underwrite the $6 million cost to produce the ‘Jesus’ movie in the 1970s.

Hunt, whose John Birch Society background is documented by Conway and Siegelman in Holy Terror, also made a contribution of $1 million to the Moral Majority in 1981, according to Perry Dean Young.” [Ominous Politics] Donated $10 million to Pat Robertson‘s Christian Broadcasters Network in 1970.

Another Jesuit

Recently Understand The Times exposed Ret. General Jerry Boykin as an active Jesuit of the Knights of Malta. Boykin has been circulating around Calvary Chapels for years. He circuit speaks at Calvary Conferences in the US and Israel. If Boykin is a Jesuit, and Nelson Bunker Hunt is a Jesuit, what are the odds that there are more inside Calvary Chapel?

Hunt is also a member of the Military and Hospitaller Order of Saint Lazarus of Jerusalem, a racist “brotherhood” modeled after the Hospitallers. “Its international membership is consisting of Roman-catholic, Anglican, Protestant, Orthodox, United, Old Catholic, New Apostolic and other Christians” 36
The Order of Saint Lazarus has been linked to Lady Malcolm Douglas Hamilton. Lord Hamilton was the host to Rudolph Hess, Hitler’s second in command, when – in 1940 – Hess made his secret flight to England. Hess was seeking to meet with the British aristocratic circle known as the “Cliveden Set.” 37 (Source: Click here -this is NOT an endorsement of the site).

Another Site states that Nelson Bunker Hunt is a “Knight for the Order of Malta” SOURCE: see site here scroll down for list of names and associations *this is not an endorsement of the site.

Members of the “Here’s Life, World” Intl Executive Committee (l980): Bill Bright, Nelson Bunker Hunt, Roy Rogers, W. Clement Stone, Dr. Jacob Malik (former pres of the United Nations General Assembly), Wallace E. Johnson.

Bunker Hunt funded the “STEP Program and Foundation”… the result of a meeting of some 200 …wealthy and powerful evangelical, religious, political and business leaders… 76. held on Dallas, Texas April 21st and 22nd 1982, at the behest of multimillionaires Clint Murchison, Jr. and Nelson Bunker Hunt! STEP, an acronym for “Strategies to Eliminate Poverty” was …formed to alleviate poverty through private sector funding and volunteerism…!  According to the Christian Inquirer, Nelson Bunker Hunt “kicked off” the STEP Program in November of 1981, with a $1 million contribution. It is most interesting to note that among Those attending the April 1982 meeting in Dallas, besides the previously mentioned Dr William Bill Bright, Murchison, and Hunt, were: Dallas Cowboy Coach Tom Landry, Television evangelists Jim Baker, [and CNP's]  James Robison and  Pat Robertson, (Holly) Coors;  Dallas businesswoman [Late] Mary C. Crowley, and the Rev. E.V. Hill  – keynote speaker at the meeting and president of STEP.  [Miller 4] SOURCE:http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Nelson_Bunker_Hunt

William H. Regnery was one of the founders of the American Security Council. He was later replaced by his son, Henry. Regnery and Nelson Bunker Hunt, son of the Texas oil tycoon, H.L. Hunt, funded the intelligence-gathering organization, Western Goals Foundation which provided intelligence on liberals and “communist subversives” to the John Birch Society in the ’60′s. The John Birch Society was bankrolled by Nelson Bunker Hunt.

If the Military-Industrial Complex had a mail stop, the American Security Council was it. They had direct ties to Nelson Bunker Hunt’s John Birch Society, Daniel Graham’s High Frontiers and the Western Goals Foundation. The ASC was also the major architect of the Cold War. Through their lobbying arms, the National Security Caucus and the Coalition for Peace Through Strength, the ASC produced innumerable articles and publications including their Guidelines for Cold War Victory and the National Strategy for Peace through Strength. They also had a profound influence on policy decisions during the Reagan Administration. Indeed, Ronald Reagan credited the organization with no less than “winning” the Cold War. **Source: http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/allposts/populist-review-fascism-in-america-roots-of-the-current-predicament **this is not an endorsement of the site.

CNP, Hunt, and Calvary Chapel Speakers

Herbert William Hunt- CNP Board of Governors (1982). Multimillionaire and brother to Nelson Bunker Hunt. In 1981, William Herbert and Nelson Bunker Hunt provided the start-up $$ money $$ for the Council for National Policy.SOURCE: Here *this is not an endorsement of the site. (Account from Tim LaHaye himself referring to Hunt at the foundation of CNP)

CNP founder Tim LaHaye CNP Financial Contributor Nelson Bunker Hunt

CNP foundation CNP was founded in 1981 as a 501(c)(3) non-profit educational organization by Rev. Tim LaHaye of the Religious Roundtable, who was also the first CNP president, 1981. LaHaye, the right-wing, evangelical political motivator and author of the Left Behind series. The original directors, as listed with CNP’s articles of incorporation filed with the Texas Secretary of State were Howard Phillips, a long-time conservative activist with plenty of conservative groups under his wing, and Bob J. Perry, a Texas businessman who has long donated vast amounts of money to conservative causes.SOURCE: Here *this is not an endorsement of the site.

Nelson Bunker Hunt is currently a member of Council of National Policy (CNP). Here is a list of other CNP members who are also close long time friends of Calvary Chapel:

  • Charles (Chuck) Missler (Koininia House, 66/40, Swansat)
  • Tony Perkins (Family Research Council; founded in 1983 has near identical logo to CNP) [FRC is parent to Watchman on the Wall, for pastors; where Jack Hibbs of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills is a member and avid promoter of FRC and Tony Perkins.]
  • Tim LaHaye &  (CNP founder, Writer of Left Behind Series, Avid Calvary Chapel Speaker, Compass Speaker, Pre-Trib Research Center, Tim LaHaye Ministries)Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women of America)
  • Pat Matrisciana (Citizens for Honest Government/Jeremiah Films, Husband of Caryl Matrisciana)

CNP, Nelson Bunker Hunt, and the “Tea Party”

The Council for National Policy was started allegedly to counter the workings of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), yet there were five CFR members on the early membership rosters of the CNP. The CNP was started in 1981 by Nelson Bunker Hunt, Pat Robertson, Tim LaHaye, (who accepted millions from Sun Myung Moon who claims he came to finish what Jesus started) and T. Cullen Davis who helped fund the CNP to get it off the ground. T. Cullen Davis was tried for murder not once, but twice. A book written about the trials is still available entitled, “Blood Will Tell: The Murder Trials of T. Cullen Davis” by Gary Cartwright. For a short synopsis click here.

Many of CNP’s highest-ranking members also belong to the Masonic Knights of Malta and are associated with Fabian socialism and the eugenics movement, not to mention cultists like Sun Myung Moon and Scientology as well as the heretical and cultic Dominionist/Reconstructionist movement. Oil baron and CNP member Nelson Bunker Hunt was a former member of the racist pro-eugenics group called the International Association for the Advancement of Ethnology and Eugenics. The group was heavily involved in the promotion of eugenics and segregation. I know two members who left the CNP stating it was in bed with the left from its inception. One of these former members writes for NewsWithViews.com. SOURCE: NewsWithViews.com *this is not an endorsement of the site.

Skip Heitzig (BGEA)-general Jerry Boykin (SMOM)- Joel Rosenberg (Heirtage Foundation)-Greg Laurie (BGEA)- Tim LaHaye (CNP)- Youseff

I did not address Billy Graham and his Ecumenical movement known as Lausanne, because others have done better jobs at exposing it. I highly recommend you research Billy Graham. He has supplied much of the confirmation of his ecumenical heretical shenanigans on his own site: Wheaton Archive and Lausanne.Org. Billy Graham has an Evangelistic Center called, “The Cove,” where Skip Heitzig, Bob Coy, Erwin Lutzer, Chip Ingram, Alistair Begg and others are recurring guests. It doesn’t take much to draw conclusions and connect the dots. Greg Laurie has a long history of working closely with Billy Graham, Laurie sits on the board of BGEA and Samaritans Purse. Billy Graham was the Keynote Speaker at EXPLO ’72. Explo ’72 was funded in part by Nelson Bunker Hunt, organized by Campus Crusade for Christ (Bill Bright) and was in it’s purpose an Emergent Post-Modern Attempt of its time to target the young hippies. Explo ’72 put a stamp of approval on the “Jesus People Movement” by having Mega Star Evangelist Billy Graham there. The beginning of Billy Graham’s epic stardom can be traced to Masons and Ecumenical origins. Billy Graham has been exposed for years and has dealings with C. Peter Wagner (N.A.R (New Apostolic Reformation/Dominionist/Kingdom Now) infamy) and others (too many to name for this post). All one has to do is spend time on Graham’s sites and names will be revealed (esp. Wheaton Archive). This post is for informational purposes. It has been over two weeks of research and many hours of reading. I have inserted many links (none constitute an endorsement) I suggest you spend an equal amount or more time before you ignore all the information presented here. I can not emphasize enough that there has been a ongoing deception for so long that it’s near implausible to believe that these so called ‘great men of God’ could be doing this on purpose, but I will leave you with this:

2 Peter 2

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

Woe.

Front(Greg Laurie, Harvest Church Riverside,CA; Center Chuck Smith Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa CA, Right: Rick Warren Saddleback Church Lake Forest,CA

“…Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.”Luke 12:1-3

The original Post of “Woe.” was on August 25, 2009. Edits and additional comments are explained at the end of the original post.

**Update: this post has been previously attached to a site that claims I am a CC ‘member.’
When I wrote this post I was attending a CC and had for years, this is no longer true as of June 2010.**

The Shift has Begun. The time for secrets and whispered alliances has become publicly known. The object of grievance for many who love Calvary Chapel and all that it once stood for has been affirmed. For all those who were called “Head Hunters, Heresy Sniffers, Contentious, and slanderers” they may now have some level of confirmation that their discernment wasn’t wrong; however, a true child of God who has the “gift” of discernment takes no pleasure in seeing what was once ‘the warning’ come to pass. Many people who are in the camp that believe Rick Warren is doing a work of God think that all of us are simply fanatic and fearful to ‘change.’ No. I accept Change. What I do not accept is heresy, lies, and false teachers. I will start in the order of the men that are in the picture above.

Greg Laurie.Greg is the Senior Pastor of Harvest Church in Riverside California. For those of you who don’t know the relationship of Greg Laurie and Rick Warren has stemmed over twenty years. According to Rick Warren himself, in a short clip taken backstage at the Harvest Crusade 2009, they have had a cyclical relationship with each others flock {see video below} . Greg Laurie has taught classes at Saddleback church and has done other projects in conjunction with Rick Warren. Greg’s relationship with Rick Warren has not been a secret in the Calvary Chapel circles. Many pastors have approached Greg Laurie over the years and attempted to rebuke him in love about his unequally yolked partnership to Rick Warren. Each time Greg asserted himself as someone who had been ‘sent to minister’ to Rick Warren. Over the same amount of years pastors have attempted to rebuke Rick Warren in love and to warn him about his own unequally yolked fellowship with those in the Emergent Church Movement and many other false gospels. Rick Warren too has justified himself and refused to repent of the heresies he has taught. I know that many people are going to be hurt by this news of Pastor Chuck Smith, Greg Laurie and Rick Warren appearing together on the same platform in “one accord.” For many who have called Calvary Chapel their home church the possibility of such once sound men of God (Laurie & Smith) appearing with an obvious wolf in sheep’s clothing (Warren) seems absolutely inconceivable. However, the truth of the matter is that is exactly what has happened. I have done many posts on this blog and my other blog related to the Heresy and Leaven that Rick Warren has introduced into the Evangelical, Christian, movement. This post is not so much to warn you of Rick Warren as it is to warn you about the dangers occurring inside Calvary Chapel. Rick Warren’s leaven has infiltrated Harvest church for years, it has filtered into smaller Calvary Chapels, and with the stamp of approval that Chuck Smith has now given it, the Leaven and Heresy that is Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Life has come to roost in Harvest and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.

Chuck Smith.Chuck is the Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and known as one of the key persons of influence of the Jesus People Movement. Honesty I know very little about the ‘Jesus people movement.’ I have attended Calvary Chapel the length of my entire walk with Jesus Christ and never once cared to look into when or why this ‘movement’ started. When I had entered in to this ‘fold’ I had felt I was getting clear biblical teaching of God’s word. And I was. The Calvary Chapel of the past has changed dramatically. What Pastor Chuck started all those years ago has become an extended family that has grown up generations of Christ loving, God fearing people. Today however, with the acceptance of one of the most dangerous false teachers, Rick Warren, Calvary Chapel has much to loose and little to gain from yoking itself with Purpose Driven heresy. As I stated before, Rick’s relationship with Greg has not been kept in isolation, many people have known of this, however the fear that the ‘leadership’ from the top…ie, Pastor Chuck Smith, to accept Rick Warren’s heresy and to condone it has tipped the scale. Many people in the Emergent Church movement have been waiting for the day that Chuck would ‘accept’ Emergent and Purpose Driven as a movement that not even Chuck could deny it’s power to move people. However, simply because people are moved emotionally and spiritually deceived into a spiritual ‘experience’ does not make that a move of God. In 2006 Chuck Smith himself released a positional paper that denounced the Emergent Church, however today he is by his actions denouncing the very stand he took only some three years ago. Today the rebuke doesn’t seem to come, however I trust the Lord is working out His perfect will even as it appears that evil is prospering. It must be said that today Chuck is only expressing publicly what he has held as true privately for a long time. I can say that because many sheep have been stumbled by his actions to shield and protect Greg Laurie and Greg’s relationship with Rick Warren. There have been events that have caused people to stumble that have been hosted by CCCM, and other “Calvary Chapel Pastors” over the years. It has been years. This didn’t happen over night. Senior Pastors from the biggest to the smallest Calvary Chapel on the Directory KNOW what has been going on. They have had overt warnings, they’ve had whispered concerns expressed by critically hurt sheep and have denied to address the problem of the leaven that is Rick Warren and his blasphemous counterfeit gospel.

My Appeal to Pastor Chuck Smith, with all due respect to what you’ve done in the past, what you are doing now and what’s been happening for some time is stumbling and scattering the flock that God entrusted to you and countless other Calvary Chapel Pastors.

8. The great confusion that exists in the divergent positions of the Emergent Church results from their challenging the final authority of the Scriptures. When you no longer have a final authority, then everyone’s ideas become as valid as the next person’s, and it cannot help but end in total confusion and contradictions.

There are those who say that Emergent movement has some good points, but so does a porcupine. You are better off if you don’t get too close!-Chuck Smith, 2006

Rick Warren. I’ve said enough.

“Thank you Greg for preaching at 4 of the 6 services at Saddleback.” Rick Warren.

Articles from my blogs on Rick Warren:

Rick Warren & Tony BlairWarren’s New Social Gospel bibleRick Warren catapults Obama among ‘Evangelicals’ by hosting a ‘conversation’ with Obama and McCain at Saddleback ChurchRick Warren’s Flip Flop Morality; is he For Marriage or Gay Unions? He can’t decide Did you know Warren is a Southern Baptist? Even they speak out against his false teaching! ♦ Rick Warren’s Interfaith Prayer at Inauguration called on the name of Isa, Jesus of Islam! ♦

Articles on Rick Warren from Other Sites:

Olive Tree Ministries, Understanding the Times, Slice of Laodicea , Crosstalk, Prophesy News Watch, Joel’s Trumpet, Eric Barger, Lighthousetrails, OneNewsNow

References to Warren at Laurie’s Harvest Crusade:

[The following sites are not an endorsement nor am I in agreement with the sites cited.]

Christian Post August 13, 2009ANS August 19, 2009Greg’s Images Twittered live from Harvest 2009 ♦ ♦ RT (re-tweet) of Rick Warren’s comment about Greg Laurie speaking at SaddlebackOfficial Harvest Crusade 2009 Video Sunday, Chuck Smith introduces Rick Warren @ 10:47 minNational Worship Leaders Conference 2009, Greg Laurie [the sites listed are reference points they do not represent sites that I endorse but are merely used to provide further information]

NWLC 2009 Reggie M. Kidd did a segment entitled: “Showing the Story with the Ancient Church” the main topics included:

In this seminar, we take up the biblical basis for the unity of Word and Table in worship that emerged in the early church. We introduce four important texts
for understanding ancient future worship.
We look at three, practical legacies of ancient worship:
• the reading of Scripture,
• the Eucharistic prayer,
• the chanting of the psalms

National Worship Leader Conference 2008, Skip Heitzig Calvary Chapel Albuquerque

You must understand who the speakers are at these events (Research Leonard Sweet), what they believe, and teach to understand the implications. There are people who become stumbled because they believe some on the ticket to be ‘men of God.’ Some of these ‘men of God’ have taught on other types of heresy, or false doctrine, yet still are unequally yolked and keeping company with darkness.

The Answer to the Question. You may be asking yourself right about now, “What does this all mean?” What am ‘I’ implying by voicing all the things that have been said in this post? Am ‘I’ calling Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith, heretics, false teachers, false prophets…? God’s word answers that for you.

2 Peter 2

1But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

2Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;

3and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

1 Peter 5

The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.

Matthew 18

Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

1 Timothy 4

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.

Test all things. Test the Spirit. Test what is being preached and taught in your church against the WORD of God. I recently commented to a friend if people tested all ‘Pastors, Speakers, Authors, etc’ against the true Word of God then there wouldn’t be a need for ‘Discernment Ministries.’ There has been volumes of warnings out on Rick Warren, Purpose Driven Life, Emergent/Emerging Church, Dominionist Theology, Mysticism, Ancient Future Worship, etc. The hour is late and there is little time to go through all that is now masquerading itself as ‘light’ in this world…but by all means try to do your own homework. Do not take anything of what I’ve said in this post or any other for that matter without holding it up to see if it’s true.

2 Corinthians 6

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

One last answer to the broken hearted out there who is grieving and mourning for the truth in matters….

All this has shown me is that there is no one righteous, no not one, especially myself! I make no claims to be more holy than the next person. I know that nothing good dwells in me and that I am a chief sinner. One thing I do know is that God is doing a continuing sanctification and by the Blood of the Lamb alone am I saved! Rejoice brother and sister in the Lord, for the time is near and the times are proving themselves to be the last days that our Lord Jesus Christ has spoken of. I know there is a remnant out there. I know there are people who love Jesus Christ Messiah and seek to do His will. Let us focus our eyes on the Lord Jesus Christ, SON of the Living God! Our faith is bound up in Jesus Christ and none other!

Ezekiel 33

But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.

**Update** 4-27- 2010

Finally a ministry with tons of connections comes out with a warning on what I’ve already expressed in this article and many countless others have been trying to express for years now~ better late than never:

Calvary Chapel Alert: Calvary Chapel Albuqurque (Skip Heitzig) Hosting New Age Mystic Leonard Sweet

(but let’s be clear this isn’t the first year he’s invited Leonard Sweet! AND it’s not that Chuck Smith doesn’t know about it or other CC Pastors…)

Post Primary Commentary: Below are my thoughts now in 2012, three years after the infamous embrace at Harvest August, 17th 2009.

The site above with a line through was Moriel, they disabled that link so it’s useless to have it up; and they never warned about Rick Warren’s connections to Greg Laurie or his visit in 2009 and embrace with Chuck Smith Sr.Further above in this post was a group of links to articles outside of my own blog posts who have written about Rick Warren; those sites I disabled the links to because I DO NOT support, endorse, or agree with those sites any longer. It has come to my attention over the years that those who placate and remain silent on truly exposing those within Calvary Chapel, who’ve enjoyed decades long employment and ministerial support, are just as guilty as perpetuating the lie within Calvary as the ones they claim to “expose;” namely Rick Warren.

Since this post in 2009 not one major discernment site reported on this union (Warren/Smith/Laurie). In fact since the Harvest 2009 20th Anniversary there has been much more leaven within Calvary Chapel and since then the failure of the major Discernment Sites and “Discernment Ministries” to expose the true and very real deception inside of Calvary Chapel has become over abundantly clear and pervasive. Those who expose Calvary Chapel and their fake discernment ministries that keep them afloat giving the appearance of a discerning church are the ones who are laboring and getting attacked from the CC machine. There is a vast and broad network within the Calvary Chapel “Movement” that crosses denominational divides. The Baptist Churches are involved too and I would venture to say that many of the “Emergent Churches” who have been declared the Devil incarnate by the organized controlled Discernment Ministries were really birthed out of the CC movement and the early hippies who saw CC moving toward Yuppeidom rather than staying “true” to their “emerging” styles in the early 70’s. This article “Woe” cost me nothing to post; I was an unknown blogger who had to send out mass emails to my friends and family to get readers. Now I don’t bother anyone with when I post a new article; however, I do have some more readers today than I did in 2009, but I am still very much an unknown. I do not have “secret” information; I do not know the upper echelons of Calvary Chapel. I do not work with anyone within Calvary Chapel or their subsidiaries. I am one person, with a heart for the body of Christ and I pray that those who are entrapped by the snare of the false teachings of CC and their organized discernment ministries will make their way out.

John 10: 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.