Repost: WOE. revisited three years later

“…Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.”Luke 12:1-3

The original Post of “Woe.” was on August 25, 2009. Edits and additional comments are explained at the end of the original post.

**Update: this post has been previously attached to a site that claims I am a CC ‘member.’
When I wrote this post I was attending a CC and had for years, this is no longer true as of June 2010.**

The Shift has Begun. The time for secrets and whispered alliances has become publicly known. The object of grievance for many who love Calvary Chapel and all that it once stood for has been affirmed. For all those who were called “Head Hunters, Heresy Sniffers, Contentious, and slanderers” they may now have some level of confirmation that their discernment wasn’t wrong; however, a true child of God who has the “gift” of discernment takes no pleasure in seeing what was once ‘the warning’ come to pass. Many people who are in the camp that believe Rick Warren is doing a work of God think that all of us are simply fanatic and fearful to ‘change.’ No. I accept Change. What I do not accept is heresy, lies, and false teachers. I will start in the order of the men that are in the picture above.

Greg Laurie.Greg is the Senior Pastor of Harvest Church in Riverside California. For those of you who don’t know the relationship of Greg Laurie and Rick Warren has stemmed over twenty years. According to Rick Warren himself, in a short clip taken backstage at the Harvest Crusade 2009, they have had a cyclical relationship with each others flock {see video below} . Greg Laurie has taught classes at Saddleback church and has done other projects in conjunction with Rick Warren. Greg’s relationship with Rick Warren has not been a secret in the Calvary Chapel circles. Many pastors have approached Greg Laurie over the years and attempted to rebuke him in love about his unequally yoked partnership to Rick Warren. Each time Greg asserted himself as someone who had been ‘sent to minister’ to Rick Warren. Over the same amount of years pastors have attempted to rebuke Rick Warren in love and to warn him about his own unequally yoked fellowship with those in the Emergent Church Movement and many other false gospels. Rick Warren too has justified himself and refused to repent of the heresies he has taught. I know that many people are going to be hurt by this news of Pastor Chuck Smith, Greg Laurie and Rick Warren appearing together on the same platform in “one accord.” For many who have called Calvary Chapel their home church the possibility of such once sound men of God (Laurie & Smith) appearing with an obvious wolf in sheep’s clothing (Warren) seems absolutely inconceivable. However, the truth of the matter is that is exactly what has happened. I have done many posts on this blog and my other blog related to the Heresy and Leaven that Rick Warren has introduced into the Evangelical, Christian, movement. This post is not so much to warn you of Rick Warren as it is to warn you about the dangers occurring inside Calvary Chapel. Rick Warren’s leaven has infiltrated Harvest church for years, it has filtered into smaller Calvary Chapels, and with the stamp of approval that Chuck Smith has now given it, the Leaven and Heresy that is Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Life has come to roost in Harvest and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.

Chuck Smith.Chuck is the Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and known as one of the key persons of influence of the Jesus People Movement. Honesty I know very little about the ‘Jesus people movement.’ I have attended Calvary Chapel the length of my entire walk with Jesus Christ and never once cared to look into when or why this ‘movement’ started. When I had entered in to this ‘fold’ I had felt I was getting clear biblical teaching of God’s word. And I was. The Calvary Chapel of the past has changed dramatically. What Pastor Chuck started all those years ago has become an extended family that has grown up generations of Christ loving, God fearing people. Today however, with the acceptance of one of the most dangerous false teachers, Rick Warren, Calvary Chapel has much to lose and little to gain from yoking itself with Purpose Driven heresy. As I stated before, Rick’s relationship with Greg has not been kept in isolation, many people have known of this, however the fear that the ‘leadership’ from the top…ie, Pastor Chuck Smith, to accept Rick Warren’s heresy and to condone it has tipped the scale. Many people in the Emergent Church movement have been waiting for the day that Chuck would ‘accept’ Emergent and Purpose Driven as a movement that not even Chuck could deny it’s power to move people. However, simply because people are moved emotionally and spiritually deceived into a spiritual ‘experience’ does not make that a move of God. In 2006 Chuck Smith himself released a positional paper that denounced the Emergent Church, however today he is by his actions denouncing the very stand he took only some three years ago. Today the rebuke doesn’t seem to come, however I trust the Lord is working out His perfect will even as it appears that evil is prospering. It must be said that today Chuck is only expressing publicly what he has held as true privately for a long time. I can say that because many sheep have been stumbled by his actions to shield and protect Greg Laurie and Greg’s relationship with Rick Warren. There have been events that have caused people to stumble that have been hosted by CCCM, and other “Calvary Chapel Pastors” over the years. It has been years. This didn’t happen over night. Senior Pastors from the biggest to the smallest Calvary Chapel on the Directory KNOW what has been going on. They have had overt warnings, they’ve had whispered concerns expressed by critically hurt sheep and have denied to address the problem of the leaven that is Rick Warren and his blasphemous counterfeit gospel.

My Appeal to Pastor Chuck Smith, with all due respect to what you’ve done in the past, what you are doing now and what’s been happening for some time is stumbling and scattering the flock that God entrusted to you and countless other Calvary Chapel Pastors.

8. The great confusion that exists in the divergent positions of the Emergent Church results from their challenging the final authority of the Scriptures. When you no longer have a final authority, then everyone’s ideas become as valid as the next person’s, and it cannot help but end in total confusion and contradictions.

There are those who say that Emergent movement has some good points, but so does a porcupine. You are better off if you don’t get too close!-Chuck Smith, 2006

Rick Warren. I’ve said enough.

“Thank you Greg for preaching at 4 of the 6 services at Saddleback.” Rick Warren.

Articles from my blogs on Rick Warren:

Rick Warren & Tony Blair ♦ Warren’s New Social Gospel bible ♦ Rick Warren catapults Obama among ‘Evangelicals’ by hosting a ‘conversation’ with Obama and McCain at Saddleback Church ♦ Rick Warren’s Flip Flop Morality; is he For Marriage or Gay Unions? He can’t decide ♦ Did you know Warren is a Southern Baptist? Even they speak out against his false teaching! ♦ Rick Warren’s Interfaith Prayer at Inauguration called on the name of Isa, Jesus of Islam! ♦

Articles on Rick Warren from Other Sites:

Olive Tree Ministries, Understanding the Times, Slice of Laodicea , Crosstalk, Prophesy News Watch, Joel’s Trumpet, Eric Barger, Lighthousetrails, OneNewsNow

References to Warren at Laurie’s Harvest Crusade:

[The following sites are not an endorsement nor am I in agreement with the sites cited.]

Christian Post August 13, 2009 ♦ ANS August 19, 2009 ♦ Greg’s Images Twittered live from Harvest 2009 ♦ ♦ RT (re-tweet) of Rick Warren’s comment about Greg Laurie speaking at Saddleback ♦ Official Harvest Crusade 2009 Video Sunday, Chuck Smith introduces Rick Warren @ 10:47 min ♦ National Worship Leaders Conference 2009, Greg Laurie [the sites listed are reference points they do not represent sites that I endorse but are merely used to provide further information]

NWLC 2009 Reggie M. Kidd did a segment entitled: “Showing the Story with the Ancient Church” the main topics included:

In this seminar, we take up the biblical basis for the unity of Word and Table in worship that emerged in the early church. We introduce four important texts
for understanding ancient future worship.
We look at three, practical legacies of ancient worship:
• the reading of Scripture,
• the Eucharistic prayer,
• the chanting of the psalms

National Worship Leader Conference 2008, Skip Heitzig Calvary Chapel Albuquerque

You must understand who the speakers are at these events (Research Leonard Sweet), what they believe, and teach to understand the implications. There are people who become stumbled because they believe some on the ticket to be ‘men of God.’ Some of these ‘men of God’ have taught on other types of heresy, or false doctrine, yet still are unequally yoked and keeping company with darkness.

The Answer to the Question. You may be asking yourself right about now, “What does this all mean?” What am ‘I’ implying by voicing all the things that have been said in this post? Am ‘I’ calling Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith, heretics, false teachers, false prophets…? God’s word answers that for you.

2 Peter 2

¹But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

²Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;

³and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

1 Peter 5

The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:² Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

³ Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.

Matthew 18

⁷ Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

⁸ Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

⁹ And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

¹⁰ Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

¹¹ For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

1 Timothy 4

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;² Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

³ Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

⁴ For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

⁵ For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

⁶ If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.

Test all things. Test the Spirit. Test what is being preached and taught in your church against the WORD of God. I recently commented to a friend if people tested all ‘Pastors, Speakers, Authors, etc’ against the true Word of God then there wouldn’t be a need for ‘Discernment Ministries.’ There has been volumes of warnings out on Rick Warren, Purpose Driven Life, Emergent/Emerging Church, Dominionist Theology, Mysticism, Ancient Future Worship, etc. The hour is late and there is little time to go through all that is now masquerading itself as ‘light’ in this world…but by all means try to do your own homework. Do not take anything of what I’ve said in this post or any other for that matter without holding it up to see if it’s true.

2 Corinthians 6

¹⁶ And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

¹⁷ Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

¹⁸ And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

One last answer to the broken-hearted out there who is grieving and mourning for the truth in matters….

All this has shown me is that there is no one righteous, no not one, especially myself! I make no claims to be more holy than the next person. I know that nothing good dwells in me and that I am a chief sinner. One thing I do know is that God is doing a continuing sanctification and by the Blood of the Lamb alone am I saved! Rejoice brother and sister in the Lord, for the time is near and the times are proving themselves to be the last days that our Lord Jesus Christ has spoken of. I know there is a remnant out there. I know there are people who love Jesus Christ Messiah and seek to do His will. Let us focus our eyes on the Lord Jesus Christ, SON of the Living God! Our faith is bound up in Jesus Christ and none other!

Ezekiel 33

⁶ But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.

**Update** 4-27- 2010

Finally a ministry with tons of connections comes out with a warning on what I’ve already expressed in this article and many countless others have been trying to express for years now~ better late than never:

Calvary Chapel Alert: Calvary Chapel Albuquerque (Skip Heitzig) Hosting New Age Mystic Leonard Sweet

(but let’s be clear this isn’t the first year he’s invited Leonard Sweet! AND it’s not that Chuck Smith doesn’t know about it or other CC Pastors…)

Post Primary Commentary: Below are my thoughts now in 2012, three years after the infamous embrace at Harvest August, 17th 2009.

The site above with a line through was Moriel, they disabled that link so it’s useless to have it up; and they never warned about Rick Warren’s connections to Greg Laurie or his visit in 2009 and embrace with Chuck Smith Sr.Further above in this post was a group of links to articles outside of my own blog posts who have written about Rick Warren; those sites I disabled the links to because I DO NOT support, endorse, or agree with those sites any longer. It has come to my attention over the years that those who placate and remain silent on truly exposing those within Calvary Chapel, who’ve enjoyed decades long employment and ministerial support, are just as guilty as perpetuating the lie within Calvary as the ones they claim to “expose;” namely Rick Warren.

Since this post in 2009 not one major discernment site reported on this union (Warren/Smith/Laurie). In fact since the Harvest 2009 20th Anniversary there has been much more leaven within Calvary Chapel and since then the failure of the major Discernment Sites and “Discernment Ministries” to expose the true and very real deception inside of Calvary Chapel has become over abundantly clear and pervasive. Those who expose Calvary Chapel and their fake discernment ministries that keep them afloat giving the appearance of a discerning church are the ones who are laboring and getting attacked from the CC machine. There is a vast and broad network within the Calvary Chapel “Movement” that crosses denominational divides. The Baptist Churches are involved too and I would venture to say that many of the “Emergent Churches” who have been declared the Devil incarnate by the organized controlled Discernment Ministries were really birthed out of the CC movement and the early hippies who saw CC moving toward Yuppeidom rather than staying “true” to their “emerging” styles in the early 70′s. This article “Woe” cost me nothing to post; I was an unknown blogger who had to send out mass emails to my friends and family to get readers. Now I don’t bother anyone with when I post a new article; however, I do have some more readers today than I did in 2009, but I am still very much an unknown. I do not have “secret” information; I do not know the upper echelons of Calvary Chapel. I do not work with anyone within Calvary Chapel or their subsidiaries. I am one person, with a heart for the body of Christ and I pray that those who are entrapped by the snare of the false teachings of CC and their organized discernment ministries will make their way out.

John 10: ²⁷ My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: ²⁸ And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Why They Do Not Warn- part 1 Chuck Smith and Tim LaHaye Connection

Woe to the Scribes and Pharisees

“Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, ² saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. ³ Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. ⁴ For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. ⁵ But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. ⁶ They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, ⁷ greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ ⁸ But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. ⁹ Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. ¹⁰ And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. ¹¹ But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. ¹² And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” Matt.23:1-12

The last time I addressed a post with Matthew 23 was with my article “Woe” in September 2009. I had wrestled with whether or not to post anything about the Harvest Crusade that had just transpired in August 2009 where Rick Warren (America’s favorite Pastor/and all time heretic) had appeared on stage with Chuck Smith (Calvary Chapel’s Founder and Mega Pastor that transformed the hippies back into yuppies). I waited at that time to see if any of the “Discernment” ministries would address the issue, after all it was them who had warned me about Rick Warren and all his evilness. Where were the flocks of “Watchmen” who were supposed to hold up the mirror to Chuck Smith and say, “Why did you do that, “brother?”" There were “experts” on Emergent church infiltration who had linked Rick Warren’s mega church Seeker driven management style to the likes of C.Peter Wagner and Bill Hybels and the list went on and on, Rick Warren is a “Globalist,” so I heard from these speakers and authors who traveled the globe, yet found time to come to the local Calvary Chapel and sell their books and Cd’s. All the men were silent and the women as well. So, although I knew only ten people might even read my blog at the time I would have to say something because I had sent out warnings about Rick Warren too, I had passed along much of the information I had gathered from those “Discernment” ministries, and I too had been known to say, “I will lift up no one above my God, principal before personalities…” And I wrote my article, “Woe.” Some came, many more than I had anticipated came to read, some objected and chastised me, some even condemned me for “attacking” “God’s anointed.” But the folks who had seen the hand writing on the wall were appreciative, and I got many messages of confirmation and solidarity when they shared their own experiences at being hushed up, pushed out, and black listed for trying to sound their own warnings in their own way at their own Calvary Chapels.

An Apology

This is an apology, not to address anything I’ve said in the past, but failure for not being more discerning then as I feel I am now. When Rick Warren appeared “on stage” with Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith, it wasn’t a shock so much as it was confirmation of the long history they’ve shared and suspicions that there was a close working relationship between them. They finally had displayed outwardly what many had suspicions of inwardly for a long time. What I am about to disclose in the series of posts that follow is information I’ve had for maybe a few weeks, some information again that simply needed confirmation to suspicions, but for the most part none of what I’m going to share has been hidden from view. Often times these types of double minded people do things in plain view, it’s a joke to them, to keep everyone’s eyes preoccupied on the ‘right’ hand so we don’t see what they are doing with their ‘left’ hand, but both are always moving and both always working together. My apology is, “I’m sorry I didn’t see all this sooner and could have warned you of more earlier, but this is what I have found. I don’t want to harm my brethren by not sharing what I have. Other “ministries” I believe have known of this and probably know much more than I do since they’ve been around for much longer, but many of them are a part of this “Network” and have made the choice to suppress information. I am not a part of any “Discernment Ministry.” I’m not working for anyone. I don’t know these people personally and what I am about to share is not a “personal” attack on any one person individually but it is highly suspect that these people who make a living off of “warning” you of false shepherds and false prophets have failed significantly; in this respect their failure to truly warn leads me to believe their failure is not accidental.

“Breaking News”

In 2009 while most of us (including myself) were distracted and appalled (or not) by Chuck Smith embracing Rick Warren, “a friend,” on stage at Harvest 2009 in August; we missed what happened in November 2009. Although this is going back, it’s breaking News to me, and may or may not mean something significant to you. For my first part of the series I will provide information that CNP’s Founder and Moonie supporter, Timothy LaHaye, has had an extensive and long career with Calvary Chapel, so much so that in 2009 the Founder of Calvary Chapel appeared at Tim LaHaye’s Pre-Trib Study Group Conference.

Click on picture to enlarge. Some of you may still think of Tim LaHaye as, “just the guy who wrote Left Behind,” but he’s more than that and his empire wasn’t built overnight.

I don’t want this first post to turn into who Tim LaHaye is, he’s been exposed for years and there is a plethora of information to be found out about him on line. I will not reinvent the wheel here, but I will share more about what I found regarding Tim’s friends.

Birds of a feather…flock together

Most of us who’ve tried to research Tim LaHaye know that it’s near impossible to find a complete and current list of his CNP members. LaHaye’s secrecy is not limited to CNP, he seems to be very selective about his level of transparency. It’s always offensive to me that these “men of God” refuse to be 100% transparent with their associations and with their finances. When asking myself, “Why don’t they (all discernment ministries you may believe are credible right now) warn?” The answer wasn’t hard to find once I saw this:

click on image to enlarge.

The image is a screen shot ‘of’ the member list in 2003, which is as far back as I could see on the website. You can search for yourself through the years of the members list at this site:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040405044332/http://www.pre-trib.org/about-members.php

Just know that on today’s website for Pre-Trib Research Center there is not a “Members list,” and now that I’ve drawn attention to it here the archive may not be around too long either.

Look closely at the names. While you are reviewing the list, think of who that particular person shares their ministry with, whom they speak alongside, books they promote, and who they warn you of, and whom they NEVER touch.

Some people may say, “Just because they are on this list means nothing,” “you can’t lump them all together!” To them I say this; when I received the newsletters, and the warnings in years past written by those on this list, they presented their material in like manner. I recall all the links and associations they made between Pagitt, Driscoll, Hybels, and McLaren, and then reported it as a vast conspiracy of Emergent Church infiltrating the Evangelical non-denominational “Bible believing” churches. The same method of association and working together on projects is exactly what I am employing here. Does the method always apply? Can one assume that because, let’s pick a name randomly from the list above…Mr.Bill Perkins, Bill Perkins of Compass International is on this list; he employes many of the same speakers on this list, he has had an extensive career writing for Chuck Missler at Koinonia House, and using Missler and others on the Steeling the Mind Conferences. Is it possible that Perkins, Missler, and Tim LaHaye have connections to one another that prohibit them from exposing one another when they find out that their “brother” is not behaving in a godly manner? Have you ever read an exposition by Missler on Tim LaHaye and his Moonie money? Have you ever read a Berean Call letter from Dave Hunt on Chuck Missler’s connection to William Welty the New Ager who’s Missler’s associate over at SwanSat? Have you read the latest book by Terry James where he goes into detail about the Religious Right’s Conservative political ties to infiltrate and sway the body of Christ to constantly approve of wars under the guise of “Conservatism and Americana Propaganda?” When was the last time Jimmy DeYoung, Brannon Howse’s dear friend, ever exposed Chuck Missler? Remember that time Thomas Ice exposed Norman Geisler’s teaching of Thomas Aqains? Oh, that’s right that never happened. Well, there was that time when Mark Hitchcock exposed Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s links to the Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism, oh oops, that never happened either.

Bedfellows of Tim LaHaye

Chuck Smith wasn’t the only shocking “guest” over at the Pre-Trib Study Group Conference that I found. Click on the thumbnails to enlarge:

For me, the information I gathered on those who speak and share the stage with Tim LaHaye is exactly, “Why They Do Not Warn,” about Tim LaHaye.

Why They Do Not Warn Part 2 click below:

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/why-they-do-not-warn-part-2-lonnie-frisbee/

David Hocking, Chuck Missler, Dave Hunt, Mike Gendron, Jimmy DeYoung, all those named above who participate with Tim LaHaye, none of them are going to Expose Tim LaHaye’s connection to Rev. Moon, or tell you about the secretive Council for National Policy, that is ecumenical, and buys off people in other countries, part of the dispose of one tyrant for another tyrant that the US can control modality. Click on the thumbnails…

A Time to Speak

Ecclesiastes 3

 ¹To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: ²A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; ³A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; ⁴A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; ⁵A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; ⁶A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; ⁷A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; ⁸A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. ⁹What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth? ¹⁰I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it. ¹¹He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. ¹²I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. ¹³And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. ¹⁴I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. ¹⁵That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. ¹⁶And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there. ¹⁷I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work. ¹⁸I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. ¹⁹For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. ²⁰All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. ²¹Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? ²²Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?

http://ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/roger-oakland-exposes-not-chuck-missler.html

Chuck Missler is Compass.org.

Chuck Missler is Sowing Circle.

Chuck Missler is Koinonia House.

Chuck Missler is Blue Letter Bible.

Chuck Missler is SwanSat.

Chuck Missler is Steeling the Mind Conference.

Chuck Missler is off Doctrinally. Chuck Missler is a promoter of false teachers, prophesies falsely, and profits from the sheep he is deceiving.

**A Link Does Not Constitute as an endorsement of the site. Please use your own God given Discernment.

Back story: “Why is Roger Oakland sharing the pulpit with Chuck Missler when we all seem to know Chuck Missler is off doctrinally and is a promoter of false teaching, teachers, and is connected  to the UN and Rome?”

In the summer I was asked by an unnamed source to “Look into Missler.” So I did. What I found was a conglomerate of information on a slew of false teachers Chuck Missler endorses and works with steadily. Missler is a CNP member, Tim LaHaye is the founder of Council on National Policy. The CNP acts like a Conservative Right Wing version of CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) and is highly secretive about its membership. The CNP does however like to brag and hold conferences and “Fundraisers” so occasionally we do find out who are CNP members. Chuck Missler is a CNP member. He also is the founder of Blue Letter Bible. Blue Letter Bible is naturally a part of every Calvary Chapel website. Blue Letter Bible says it was created by Sowing Circle. Sowing Circle is also Chuck Missler. Chuck Missler is also Koinonia House and Koinonia Institute. KI (Koinonia Institute) has on its Board of Regents: Roger Oakland, David Hocking, Tim LaHaye, Ron Matsen (also a UTT Board Memeber), Skip Heitzig (friend of Billy Graham and Jesuit General Boykin), William Welty (Co-Founder of SwanSat, and ISV with Missler), Bill Koenig (Washington “Correspondent”), Joseph Farah (Editor and founder of World Net Daily and a CNP member).

Chuck Missler is consumed with Numerology and Kabala (Jewish Mysticism). He claims he’s warning ‘you’ the Christian about all this; however I believe his obsession in talking about Trans-humanism, Nephilim/Aliens, and Quantum Physics is really his way to form a narrative in the mind of the Christian. He’s involved in government plans in Africa to create a central form of currency, he’s supposedly sending up satellites to create a means of Global Communication, he’s at the helm of the most widely used bible tool on the internet –Blue Letter Bible, altering the word of God via the ISV, and he’s propagating false prophesies (Y2K, Nephilim will return, etc.). In the Book that Chuck Missler co-wrote with his wife Nancy Missler it is stated that lukewarm Christians will be in outer darkness, a sort of purgatory. This is a paraphrase from what I remember of reading obviously, but I thought that it was highly unusual for such a renown “Bible Scholar” who runs an Institute on how to read the bible to get that so blatantly wrong. Missler was handing out his book for free like candy at a prophesy conference a few years back. A friend of mine read the book; it was so disturbing that she approached her then senior Pastor with her concerns when it was later revealed that the pastor was going to host a Steeling the Mind conference at their particular Calvary Chapel. The senior pastor knowing that Chuck Missler is the origin of Steeling Mind the Conferences, via Compass.org heard the evidence and did nothing. The Steeling Mind conference was still held. Chuck Missler is part of the original group at the birth of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. He worked at various Government installations while he was “teaching the Bible at Calvary Costa Mesa.” His money is tied to Calvary Chapel. His Compass.org organizes Israel trips that many other Senior CC pastors can utilize. Missler’s Compass works as an “agent” for all those popular “Teachers, Watchers, and Discernment Elite” who are on the list as available to come to your church. Money is not the root of all evil, the LOVE OF MONEY, is. When money that comes from such a blatant Wolf is what is funding your ministry or missions comes before the Gospel there is a problem. I truly believe there are those with hearts for children and the lost, but if you know the funds are coming from an evil source it’s greater to stand on the Gospel and Christ’s Righteousness than worry about where the money is going to come from. God is able to care for His children. There was an article that attempted to ‘cover’ for “good guys” who get snickered into speaking on the same platform with “bad guys” to form “bridges.” Sorry, that article was more controlled opposition. In this particular situation, I know of five or six people who directly asked Roger Oakland why he’s speaking with Chuck Missler in 2012 when all the evidence is stacked against Missler. Once the Sowing Circle/Blue Letter Bible money link to missions run by Oakland became evident, and sharing the Board of Regents between UTT and Koinonia Institute became evident, it became perfectly clear why there was a silence on this question. When I was first asked to look up Missler it was for another “Watchman” who is popular in alerting the church body about New Age Infiltration (not Oakland), and that speaker directly replied to me “Thanks for the information.” He went on to speak with Missler anyway as well. This is not for the faint of heart folks; the Word of God is true and will be fulfilled.

Jesus warned us that these false brethren would rise from among us. We should not be so surprised when we see once “rock solid” bible teachers etc., fall by the wayside. There were attempts in LOVE to contact Roger Oakland regarding all this information. People who personally sat across from him while he remained silent. The Lord can certainly still do a work, I don’t deny that. I can be wrong. All this could be planted information and Chuck Missler could be a saint and not who we have discovered him to be, but I don’t think so. What does this mean for you who have counted on the information by said ministries? It only says, lay down all idols, and follow Christ alone. Rest on the Pure word of God and the ability of the Holy Spirit to give you wisdom  to discern the spirits. Stop denying the power and might of the Holy Spirit by leaning on men (and women) and their interpretation and trust in the Lord again to complete the work He started. Things are crazy right now in the world but even more so in the Church. We need to wake up and trim our wicks now more than ever. The deception is deep, wide, and viral. I pray for all those involved in this mess. I pray somehow through all this the Lord God Almighty will be glorified, that we can say “Praise God! He is Calling me yet again unto Himself!” Do not be dismayed or afraid, our Lord is covering those whom He has called. Pray. Pray. Pray.

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Resist

“Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” James 4:7

re·sist [ri-zist]

verb (used with object)

1. to withstand, strive against, or oppose: to resist infection; to resist temptation.

2. to withstand the action or effect of: to resist spoilage.

3. to refrain or abstain from, especially with difficulty or reluctance.

Discernment vs Discernment

Why is it so difficult to understand that we are supposed to ‘Resist’ the Devil? Is it that we have not yet learned how to? Are we too lazy? Do we depend on those who are supposed to be our “Shepherds” or on those who have “Discernment?” Do we trust in others more so than the leading of the Holy Spirit and learning the Word of God? Have we become so vain, so “rich and need of nothing” that we don’t recognize our own poverty and nakedness?

In the past few days there has been an interesting “Expose” of a false prophet. This false prophet has been exposed for being a false prophet in the past, however this latest ‘expose’ simply put a more direct link to a greater evil than just being a fool and an ignoramus. Although the information is sensational it seems to have not even caused a minor ripple throughout the “Discernment” world. In particular all those who have been labeled as ‘pillars of truth’ and ‘purveyors of God’s Word’ charged with the duty to protect the sheep from wolves seem to have fallen asleep on this one. Asleep, or willfully complicit with the powers that be to seek to suppress this story? To be perfectly clear; There are those in the world of “Discernment” that are purposely withholding the truth and avoiding a whole segment of False Teaching, False Teachers, Heresy, False Prophets and the like. Do not count on anyone in particular to lead you to the truth, save the Holy Spirit. If you want to know what is going on in the realm of Apostasy you cannot rely on the old “usual suspects” to “reveal” anything to you. You have to do your own testing and research!

It’s not you, it’s me.

I’ve warned about Rick Warren and Chuck Smith. I’ve warned about Billy Graham and Bill Bright. I’ve warned about Jerry Boykin and his Jesuit ties. I’ve warned about Glenn Beck, the Conservative Right links to NAR, Seven Mountains (Dominionist dogma), the Pope and much more. I’ve researched and exposed the early beginnings of Calvary Chapel Movement and it’s ties to Jesuit Nelson Bunker Hunt, CNP Tim LaHaye, Leonard Sweet, Chuck Fromm, and more. It seems to fall on deaf ears. It’s not you, it’s me. It’s obviously something in my delivery or simple vanity to try and reveal that there are WOLVES in Christendom that are liars seeking to keep you lulled asleep and distracted with the wide road. I’ve sent out emails detailing Chuck Missler’s connections and his heresy to “Discernment” sites that get hundreds of thousands of hits a day whereas I get 1/100th of that! And to no avail. The information on Chuck Missler, Chuck Smith, Calvary Chapel, Jesuits, ties to Rome are paramount, even far beyond what I’ve explained here on my measly little blog. How is it that bible scholars, world travelers, vetted career researchers who have exposed countless false teachers seem to be completely and utterly blind to those whom they’ve co-ministered with for decades? Their compatriots and their links to the very same evil backers they have sought to expose go on unchallenged. Apparently some have excused those “Discernment” sites stating that YOU, the average Sheep, cannot “digest” the weightier things of Apostasy and heresy and thus have succumbed to alerting you ‘piecemeal’ the dangers that await you. I submit to you this day that there is a deep and seedy agenda taking place and the warnings that have been sent out, although heard but not heeded, will only lead to a deepening delusion. I submit as well,that those with ministries set up who travel the world and say they are speaking/teaching of prophesy and alerting you are doing something else entirely. A narrative is being propagated. A universal narrative that is not limited to the US but truly reaches globally and its vainglory is to entrap you to follow the most diabolical and evil plan yet. Lastly, I am intentionally not leading you to the conclusion, because the majority say that you are too dumb to understand; however I must have faith God can and will call out His own.
I will only, and can only, pray that you do your utmost to seek to find out what is truth and what is not.