Who’s the most famous Christian Socialist you know?
Ans.
The German dictator Adolf Hitler led the extreme nationalist and racist Nazi party and served as chancellor-president of Germany from 1933 to 1945. Arguably one of the most effective and powerful leaders of the twentieth century, his leadership led to the deaths of nearly six million Jews.
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
The Nazis and Adolf Hitler are commonly thought of as representing the antithesis of Christianity and Christian values. If that’s true, why did tens of millions of German Christians adore Hitler, join the Nazis, and participate in the Holocaust (among other atrocities)? Hitler and the Nazis promoted a Christian nationalism, anti-communism, anti-Semitism, and return to traditional values which most Christians appreciated. The Nazi party platform specifically endorsed ‘positive’ Christianity. Source.
Another Christian Socialist:
Abraham Vereide.
In 1969, Vereide died and was succeeded by Coe. It is amazing how this right-wing Nazi sympathizer has been eulogized by Fellowship adherents. Norman Grubb’s biography of Vereide, titled Modern Viking — The Story of Abraham Vereide, Pioneer in Christian Leadership, offers the following description of Vereide’s biography:
“This is the story of a Norwegian immigrant to the United States who was the founder of International Christian Leadership, the legal name of what is popularly called The Fellowship, the origin of the Prayer Breakfast movement. While pastoring in Seattle, he also founded the first Good Will Industry. Vereide was a single-minded pre-World War II pioneer. The book is a narrative of meetings, people and letters as Vereide befriended government and business leaders in the name of Christ. He was a world-class leader whose legacy is thriving today on every continent.”
Rockwell and Vereide shared something in common other than the same neighborhood: absolute hatred for Jews and homosexuals.
In 1965, an aging Vereide resigned as director of ICL and was succeeded as acting director by Richard Halverson, a Presbyterian minister who later became the Chaplain of the U.S. Senate. Vereide continued as Director of Fellowship House. According to Jeff Sharlet of the Center for Religion and Media at New York University and the author of a 2003 Harper’s article on the Fellowship, Vereide often exhorted his followers to emulate the cadres of Hitler or Mao Tse-tung in spreading their form of militant Christianity.
Frank Buchman, a friend of Abraham Vereide’s and founder of Moral ReArmament;
Founder Frank Buchman described his agenda in an interview with a New York newspaper, the World Telegram, published on Aug. 26, 1936 under the headline, “Hitler Or Any Fascist Leader Controlled By God Could Cure All Ills Of World, Buchman Believes”:
“I thank Heaven for a man like Adolf Hitler, who built a front line of defense against the anti-Christ of Communism,” [Buchman] said today in his book-lined office in the annex of Calvary Church, Fourth Ave. and 21st St.
“My barber in London told me Hitler saved Europe from Communism. That’s how he felt. Of course, I don’t condone everything the Nazis do. Anti-Semitism? Bad, naturally. I suppose Hitler sees a Karl Marx in every Jew.
“But think what it would mean to the world if Hitler surrendered to the control of God. Or Mussolini. Or any dictator. Through such a man God could control a nation overnight and solve every last, bewildering problem.”
Buchman gave the New York interview having just returned from meetings of his “Oxford Group” in England; and from the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin, where he had been the guest of SS leader Heinrich Himmler. (Buchman had gone to Nazi rallies at Nuremberg with Himmler, whom Buchman claimed to be training in religion.)
“Dr. Buchman,” wrote the World Telegram reporter, “listens quietly to ‘God’s plans’ for a half hour or so every day, usually before breakfast….
“The world needs the dictatorship of the living spirit of God…. God is a perpetual broadcasting station…. What we need is a supernatural network of live wires across the world to every last man, in every last place, in every last situation….
“Human problems aren’t economic…. They could be solved within a God-controlled democracy, or perhaps I should say a theocracy, and they could be solved through a God-controlled Fascist dictatorship.” Source: Youth With A (Illuminati) Mission
Abraham Vereide, a Norwegian immigrant and Buchman apostle specializing in capturing the minds of the wealthy and the powerful. He claimed to have converted the former Nazi SS officer, Netherlands’ Prince Bernhard, to Christ, and he and Frank Buchman together secured official Dutch Royal Family sponsorship for the Prayer Breakfast movement…
The 1970s: Two Hotels, a Shipwreck, and a Vision
From December, 1969 to the summer of 1970, YWAM held its first school, the School of Evangelism, with a total of 36
students. The students’ lodging and classes took place in a newly renovated and leased hotel in Lausanne, Switzerland. By the end of the year, YWAM purchased the hotel and made Lausanne, Switzerland its first permanent location.
Later in the decade, another YWAM school would begin, a school that would become the foundation for YWAM’s many training programs. By 1974, the School of Evangelism was being offered in New Jersey as well as Lausanne. The New Jersey school leader, Leland Paris, noticed that many YWAM students had no Christian background, having only recently come to Christ through the ”Jesus Movement” of the 1970’s. “I remember asking a student about his religious background,” recalls Leland. “He said, ‘Drugs.’”
After consulting with Loren and other YWAM leaders, Leland began a school that would focus on biblical foundations and character development as well as missions. The school, the Discipleship Training School (DTS), quickly caught on and was also offered in New Zealand and Los Angeles, which added an outreach phase to the program. This format: three months of lectures followed by two or three months of outreach, is still used in most Discipleship Training Schools today. Source YWAM
Thus, allegedly, was born YWAM’s ”Discipleship Training School” world headquarters in Lausanne, Switzerland.
From the Swiss base, YWAM moved across the border into Bavaria, Germany. YWAM bought a castle at Hurlach, formerly owned by the Fuggers, a feudal-nobility banking family whose undead 20th-Century members sponsored Frank Buchman’s Swiss and German intrigues.2>fu2 Youth With A Mission stuffed 1,000 young followers into this Hurlach castle operational base, for a recruiting assault on the 1972 Munich Olympics, a rerun of Buchman’s 1936 glory days in Berlin. Source Blog
Bill Bright, a friend of Loren Cunningham and co-conspirator of 7 Mountains false prophecy.
If you haven’t heard of the 7 Mountains of Influence you will soon. This false prophecy given to Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade for Christ, and Loren Cunningham has perpetuated the Dominionist Theology Camp for decades. It resurfaced in 2008 with Sarah Palin’s nomination as VP with John McCain. See here. This false prophecy is an obvious influence on David Barton. David Barton has been synonymous with “American Christian Heritage/Pseudo History.” Right now Barton (and for the past 20+ years) has been making the speaking circuit selling the American Je$u$ to anyone who’ll listen or can afford a $500.00 plate sitting (Restoring Honor Pastor’s Gathering with Glenn Beck at the Kennedy Center 2010) If you want to educate yourself on David Barton’s false interpretation of American Founding Fathers you can do a search for FREE on Google and within seconds you will have limitless pages of resources to help you discern that what he’s selling you is truly ‘reconstructionist‘ it’s down right fabrication.
Barton: There’s five areas that you have to be able to influence and control if you are going to take a culture and that’s media, business, government, education, and pulpit.
Now, for twenty years as it turns out – I wasn’t even aware of this – way back, Bill Bright from Campus Crusade, when he was still alive, Loren Cunningham, Youth With a Mission, these guys got together back at the same time and really felt like there were seven areas that had to be taken for a culture and these are the seven that they gave: family, religion, education, media, entertainment, business and government. Now we’ve grouped some of those together and throw some together, but they said those are the seven areas you have to have and if you can have those seven areas, you can shape and control whatever takes place in nations, continents, and even the world. (quote from source linked above)
Back to Bright. Bill Bright and Loren Cunningham had a simultaneous “Vision” or “Word” directly from God, to gain control of 7 areas (Mind Molders, Mountains/ Gates) that would lead to a return of Godly influence; not only on this country but all the world. It’s sort of a means to establish a ‘new’ World ‘order.’ There has never in the history of mankind been God’s Kingdom Established on Earth, there will be eventually when Christ Jesus comes to rule and reign Himself, but that’s just a matter of semantics to the Dominionists. The Dominionists truly believe their divine mission is to establish God’s “Kingdom” on earth. And they choose to do so by taking over these areas of Culture:
Mission Statements For The 7 Mind Molders:
Religion- Mercy- To provide for the discipleship of all believers in the whole nature and character of God and His Word applied to the work and walk of faith, and to facilitate the expression of that faith in worship and in the sacraments of the Church.
Government- Justice- To provide and ensure justice and equity for all citizens including executive, judicial, military, enforcement and central services.
Business- Provision- To provide needed goods and services and gainful employment opportunities for the community at a fair market price and wage.
Family- Nurture- To provide a safe, nurturing environment for growth, values and education for the next generation.
Education- Development- To provide for the development of the God-given gifts in every child for the service of their fellow man and society, believing every child is gifted by God and has the right for those gifts to be developed to their highest potential.
Media- Information- To provide truthful, objective information of importance to the community so citizens can make informed decisions.
Arts & Entertainment- To provide rest, relaxation and restoration of the soul through beauty and joy.
So depending on which mind molder you are called to influence. You can tell what you are supposed to influence this mind molder towards. (Source: Blog)
Isn’t that something! What’s scary is that these “Mind Molders” are the means in which they claim Satan has influence on the world:
Mind Molders work together in order to accomplish the strategies of the devil. This year alone, the family (Family Mountain) has come under assault by government legislatures (Government Mountain) in the State of Massachusetts to recognize that the union of a man and a woman is a thing of the past. Men now marry men and woman marry woman. Simultaneous with this, education (another mountain) chartered a school in New York to honor those students with a homosexual preference. Source: Blog
Well, if Satan had dominion over the high places, as was the area he chose in the Old Testament to be worshiped, and Bright and Cunningham say Satan controls minds in this realm; do they believe they can take that power away from Satan? The bible tells me to ‘flee’ to ‘resist’ the devil (James 4:7), not go banging on his door and taking over his house. The mere fact God does not give ‘new’ revelation outside what He’s already given us by way of His Word should be enough to enlighten you that Bright and Cunningham are false prophets. It should be enough to know that since they received this ‘vision’ they have extended their pockets into the areas of influence to gain new industry. The effect of their “influence” does not prove that the US or “the world” has gotten any better, rather our culture has only gotten worse. However, God’s Word tells us that the days leading up to Jesus’ return we would see an increase in Evil, it will wax worse, and deception will abound (2 Tim 3:13) What is the remedy to the allure of people to follow after Christian Nationalists/Socialists False Prophets? I think it’s simple. It gets down to keeping Jesus Christ Lord and Savior first in your life. Not lifting “Man” up and following sheepishly after false prophets. Were are encouraged by Christ himself that we will suffer for His Namesake, that He will Establish us, yet we negate that truth when we fall for this stuff. The first person I started with at the start of this post was Hitler. He quoted scripture, he proclaimed Christ as his savior, yet he was far from an heir.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:19
The other people mentioned illustrate a path. There is deception so interwoven in our fabric of life, from the churches we attend, the organizations that are established in the ‘name of Christ,’ to the very Government put forth we have been lied to that was set up to protect us. There is no way I could explain all that I know via a blog post. But you can search the scriptures and test the Spirits. Know Your Word! It’s your job to do this.
1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. (1 John 4:1-3)
“Would that I had the power to bring to your minds the vision as it unfolds before me! I see all denominational emphasis set aside…I see the church molding the thought of the world as it has never done before, leading in all great movements as it should. I see it literally establishing the Kingdom of God on earth.” ~John D. Rockefeller Jr.
Satan quotes scripture, demons can cloak and enter into ‘holy’ places (ie a church); this is the real spiritual realm not a science fiction horror movie. Jesus was tempted by Satan, learn how to resist Satan by Christ Jesus’ example (and notice Satan takes Jesus to the mountain tops…high places)
The Temptation of Jesus Matthew 4:1-11
1Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
2And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry.
3And the tempter came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
4But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.’”
5Then the devil took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,
6and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,
‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU’;
and
‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP,
SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.’”
7Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’”
8Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory;
9and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me.”
10Then Jesus said to him, “Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.’”
11Then the devil left Him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him.
Billy Graham was friends with Abraham Vereide and took the position of Leader of the National Prayer Breakfast. Billy Graham has been instrumental in perpetuating “The Family’s” dogma of buying out Politicians to be used for their purposes. Billy Graham’s Ecumenical life’s ministry has also been instrumental in the Great Apostasy. He’s a dangerous person of whom ‘his blessing’ is not one to be desired! Many Christians and “Christian” leaders are deceived by him and/or working in conjunction with him. Sarah Palin has worked closely with Franklin Graham since her last campaign for Vice President. She has gained the hearts of many although she is totally unqualified for such high office. The Family likes ‘personas’ and they utilize the heart strings of the sheep whenever they can.
Sarah’s religious affiliation has been known to embrace the 7 Mountains Mandate, Lorren Cunningham (see Above), and here to see how she connects to ‘C’ st. (The Family). To make your head really spin, Glenn Beck (an staunch Mormon; Mormonism is Socialist in its nature) interviewed the National Director of the Democratic Socialist of America and that leader stated Sarah Palin was in fact Socialist in the way she ran Alaska, to which Glenn Beck sat silently and continued the interview onto another topic. See Interview here: Liveleak. Is Sarah Palin a Socialist? Another article to read.
Clearly I’m not a Liberal. I’m not “Progressive.” Glenn Beck has been successful in instilling fear into countless sheeple that anyone who questions the “Conservative Right” is either a Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Progressive, yada yada! He taught you all the buzz words but people are still confused on who is what and when to accuse them of what they are or not! No, I’m a Christian who follows Christ. I do not worship America, America as a country should not be idolized by Christians. We are exhorted by God’s Law to not worship any other God but the Father, and we seem to have fallen into all sorts of idolatry in this Nation. If it’s not the flag, it’s the politician you fall for, or if not the politician, the rodeo clown on tv all of sudden has the corner market on “Truth.” Be careful brethren, you walk a fine line when you abandon the full counsel of God for some activists theology. In Hitler’s Nazi Germany, he was a “Christian,” he fed the people “Nationalism.” The Church of his time and place “Loved” him and called him a man of God. The bible tells us that they will come in “Christ’s name” espousing to be ‘one of us’ but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Of Sheep and Goats #OWS
The MSM (main stream media) has attempted to spin this story in every kind of direction other than what this truly is; #OWS is an act of organized chaos aimed to disrupt the flow of the market, the government, and ultimately to rob every American Citizen of our remaining civil liberties. Every half-twit on MSM that seeks to revitalize their career is talking about Occupy Wall Street. Some liberal outlets attempted to squelch the broadcast of the movement, while others are using it to their advantage.
Politicians chime in, Herman Cain,
Actors…
Alec Baldwin Capital One Poster-boy
…
and Music Artists show up and get a twitpic up asap!
The most troubling of all the additions to this perverted methodology of demonstrating for “Democracy” are the Churches who are joining the chorus of protestors.
Please don’t assume when I say “Churches” I mean doctrinally sound Christianity, no it’s quite the contrary. Today’s APOSTATE church has primed the Christian community for such a time as this. The Word of Faith Heresy that says, “Name it and claim it and God will give it to you ,” (think: Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Paula White, Creflo Dollar- just to name a few); this false gospel has set everyone up who follows it for failure. God doesn’t ‘promise’ “Economic Security” to the believer, He does however assure us of persecution and trials (Acts 14:22; Philippians 1:29; 2 Timothy 3:12; 1 John 3:13; 1 Peter 4:12). The “Social Gospel” Heresy has birthed the #OWS yet they would never know it. This false doctrine says everyone has the same as everyone else, Social Justice, Kingdom Now theology, who needs God when we are ‘mini’ gods and can create a millennium reign for ourselves. These people who are in this camp are radically right and left and aim to do the same thing, demonize, divide and conquer. The Seeker Sensitive, Purpose Driven New Age Utopian delusion does the same as those stated above. Rick Warren and Jim Wallis have both been used by the United Nations, World Economic Forum, and Davos to prime the corporations of the world for such a time as this (#OWS). These false teachers have been in Leadership Summits all over the world getting the upper echelons ready for the revolution that will eventually lead to the “Paradigm Shift” that they seek.
What this movement needs is a martyr or a messiah, and it will not matter if it’s a ‘Righty’ or a ‘Lefty’ at this point, ideally it will be both.
Wall Street Occupiers Urged to Target Churches
Religious LEFT support of Occupy Wall Street
Sojourners chief Jim Wallis has lavished praise during a visit to the occupiers, pacifist activist Shane Claiborne has compared them to St. Francis of Assisi, Massachusetts clergy joined them wearing saintly white robes, and officials of United Methodist Women flocked to the occupiers with their own similar placards urging class warfare.
“An Open Letter to the Occupiers from a Veteran Troublemaker“
What is the difference between the #OWS clan and the #TeaParty gang? The occupiers want less capitalism, more social services, less military, more entitlements, more unions, less freedom, less borders, more “tolerance.”
The tea partiers want less government, more free markets, less entitlements, more private sector growth, less socialism, less taxes, closed borders, a “Christian” Country with no immigrants, no gays, no globalism, and no Muslims.
Are both able to Coexist together?
Satan. He is a murderer (John 8:44) He is a Liar (John 8:44). He is an accuser (Rev. 12:10) He tempts (Acts 5:3) He sows tares among believers (Matt. 13:38-39) He incites persecutions (Rev.2:10) Satan and his demons are having a field day across the globe. It is not the 99% that God is concerned about, it’s the 1. The good shepherd will leave the 99 to pursue the one. Jesus will separate the wheat from the tares and the sheep from the goats. He will look at those who did great works and tell them, ‘Depart from me, I do not know you.’ You can do great things to help society, but without the saving message of the Gospel it’s all for not. The message of #OWS is clear, they have no message other than what their actions are proving. I don’t doubt there are authentic people who love America with a passion and want to end corruption (the Tea Party people had that same underlying message), but when it’s done for the sake of Country only it’s doomed for failure. I don’t expect great revival in this country. I don’t expect the US who has legalized murder (Abortion), same sex marriage, and illegal drug use, to return to a false semblance of America the beautiful. I believe the scripture that says evil will wax worse and worse (2 Tim 3:13), brother will betray brother (Mark 13:12), nation against nation, and people against people (Luke 21:10). A great and overwhelming Delusion is upon us! (2 Thess 2:11) We must stand on the ROCK. Careful brethren.
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