Slick Rick Warren and “Papa” Chuck Smith Sr. Still Embracing After All These Years

While most of the Catholic world is waiting with abated breath for a new Pope to be chosen the Non-Denominational Ecumenical world still has their “Papa” (Pope); that is, Chuck Smith Sr of Calvary Chapel. Calvary Chapel spawned a blend of Charismatic Conservative type church movement after its stint as an Ecumenical playground for lost hippies during the 70′s. Chuck Smith Sr. dubbed as the founder of the hippie church, aka, “Jesus People Movement.” Although, Chuck was not the source of the growth it was rather his protegee, active homosexual, Lonnie Frisbee. Years later Calvary Chapel Movement cast off it’s more hyper-charismatic days in return for a yuppie style church that aimed to minister to it’s booming youth driven and modern centered style of worship. Chuck Smith Sr, a former Four-Square church pastor and child of a four-square pastor, found himself surrounded by young men who would continue to grow his movement. One notable young pastor was Greg Laurie. Greg was mentored by Lonnie Frisbee for a time and then later assumed a close relationship to another young up and coming soon-to-be mega pastor, Rick Warren. How do I know that Rick Warren has known Greg Laurie for decades? Rick Warren said so in an interview backstage of the Harvest Crusade in 2009.

What’s Wrong with Rick Warren he’s a philanthropist, a Pastor, a humanitarian!?

Rick Warren has notoriously misrepresented the bible, the actual scriptures. All this hoopla against Rick Warren started (as far as I personally remember) back in the early 2000′s with his book “The Purpose Driven Life.” When I was in CA attending a CC the women’s bible study group was going through the very book by Rick Warren. We never completed the study, which I was happy to end, because a certain man named Roger Oakland had warned “Papa” Chuck Smith about the many errors in the book and showed Rick Warren to be highly ecumenical in his theology. Oakland and others who make a living off of warning church goers against doctrinally unsound teachers all rallied with Oakland against Rick Warren, eventually “Papa” Chuck had no place to go but heed the warning and issue a Papal decree letter to all Calvary Chapel Pastors that the theology of Rick Warren was not biblical and his type of Christianity would not could not be endorsed at that time. This letter was issued in 2006 and was called, Parsons to Parsons, good like finding it. I didn’t need “Roger Oakland” to tell me that Rick Warren was off the mark scripturally. I could see Rick Warren’s misuse of scripture for myself when we (the ladies of the CC in CA) were doing that study. He misused scriptures, he took them out of context and distorted them to get his point across. It wasn’t until years later that I learned more about his “purpose” to redesign churches and move them away from teaching biblically sound doctrine to a quasi-motto-feel good don’t preach real doctrinal truths about God’s law and my sin, type of churches. [I've written extensively on Rick Warren and Chuck Smith use the search bar to the right.]

Today’s non Breaking News, the latest conglomeration of Smith and Warren has to do with this appearance on Pastor’s Perspective:

Rick and Chuck on Pastor’s Perspective http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2002_26_13.m4a on February 26,2013

On a strange side note I found this post at Light House Trails: click image to enlarge

This post was not a “Statement” against the pairing, it was only a letter to the editor that was posted and then all of Roger Oakland’s posts related to his withdrawal from Calvary Chapel were listed with it. So officially it does not look like Light House Trails has said anything against Chuck Smith Sr for continuing to minister along side Rick Warren. They (LHT) are simply acknowledging that they know by showing this photo of the two. What do Roger Oakland’s posts have to do with Rick Warren and Chuck Smith continuing to work together? Roger Oakland never came out after the Embrace of 2009 and said, “Chuck Smith Senior, stop hanging out with Rick Warren!” or “Church, Look, Rick Warren The Compromised is imbedded into Calvary Chapel, get out now!” Roger Oakland never said anything of the sort in 2009, nor did any of his then compatriots of the Prophecy Speaking Circuit.

But N4TM, Didn’t Lighthouse Trails publish your post, “Woe,” on Chuck Smith and Rick Warren joining up in 2009?

Yes. Back in those days just after the Embrace of 2009 I waited patiently for all the famous “Men of God” who had warned me against Rick Warren to take to their bully pulpits and say something, anything, about Chuck Smith Sr. endorsing Rick Warren at the Harvest Crusade of 2009. No one spoke up, not one. I read nothing from Herescope, LHT, Hope for Today, Be Alert, UTT, etc. I waited for the respected “elders” of the group to say something and no one did. I was outraged at the silence so I spoke up. I had literally no one frequenting my blog at the time and it was only because I had a friend who knew the editors at LHT that my article got the small attention it did back then. It was quickly buried into the back of the closet, the article title changed, and more attention was given to a friend of Chuck’s who wrote a more politically correct “letter of concern” after my letter that was much more forward. It’s easy to erase history in the digital world of blogging.

*As a tip to readers who are truly trying to find the truth and have to muddle their way through various “Discernment” blogs always look for who the site endorses not just who they warn against and see if they are not compromised themselves. It is very possible to have ACME Discernment crew warning the church about Post-Modern, Emergent, New Age, Jewish Mysticism, and then by the same token they are endorsing their “authors” or “speakers” who go to churches who endorse the very doctrines they are supposedly warning you about. It’s a catch 22, no doubt and very confusing if you don’t know what/whom you are dealing with. As in the world, the compromised body of Christ also has a soft spot for Mammon. Mammon gets their speaker’s books and dvds sold, it gets them hits (visits to their sites), it gets them advertising, and not saying anything disparaging about the “leaders” who are estranged with the Apostate Church always buys them more time to sell more of their junk. It’s easy to figure out, it’s just horribly sad and discouraging. I know I’ve been there. In the end all of this is good news, because it draws our eyes to the Lord, the author and finisher of our faith. It reminds me (us) that there is only One Good Shepherd and that is Christ Jesus and no one man or two men can distract us from the truth of who God is when we put our faith, hope, and trust back on the one-the only one- who deserves it.

John 10:13-15 (KJV)

¹³ The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

¹⁴ I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

¹⁵ As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

International Apostasy

After all the hulabaloo here we are once again… Ok folks, there’s a back story to this and maybe this is a non issue for some but I will just lay it out as I have come to the knowledge that a vast and sinister network of “False Discerners” is afoot. Some time ago there was an issue concerning Chuck Missler. A friend asked me to look into Chuck Missler to see “where he was wrong” for a friend of theirs (to be named later) who was about to join Chuck Missler on a speaking engagement. I really truly didn’t want to investigate Chuck Missler because it’s one of those, If you have to ask, type of things. (translation, If you have to ask then there’s your answer, something is already wrong with the guy.) I did look into Chuck Missler and I found a plethora of things wrong with the man. My own personal objections to him are as follows:

He is a false prophet.

He is a liar.

He has been working with people like Tim LaHaye (CNP) and Chuck Smith (CCC) for most of his “biblical career.”

He is into stuff that is extra biblical: Numerology, Kabbalah, Mysticism, Demonology, Apocrypha,  and a lot of other weirdness.

So once you do your own lengthy study of all the various outrageous claims (Y2K) that Chuck Missler makes and realize for yourself that his motive most certainly cannot be to teach the bible but must be for other nefarious reasons you too will understand the shock and awe when you see other more/less “notable” and “trustworthy” teachers come alongside him and speak with him.

When I conducted my vetting of Chuck Missler it was just prior to “Future Congress” a conference held in Branson Missouri that included other notorious sensationalists like Tom Horn, but also on the docket was a speaker I had learned about through Roger Oakland’s UTT website, Chris Pinto. Chris Pinto did a lot of work “exposing” David Barton. David Barton is a Dominionist and a false teacher. David Barton has been used extensively for his version of American “Christian” history. Many Calvary Chapels simply adore David Barton and have him speak at their conferences. When I watched one of Chris Pinto’s dvd’s where he exposed the “Founding Fathers” as being much more than patriotic, namely Enlightenment/Illuminati influenced, Masons, and Jesuit ties to much of our early beginnings of America I stood up and wanted others to know the same truth. I saw so many of my brethren getting sucked down the black hole of Glenn Beck and David Barton, and at that time Chris Pinto was the only one I knew who was speaking against it. But, lo and behold it wasn’t long before realizing that Christ Pinto was a willing and able body individual that was joining with Chuck Missler at the “Future Congress” conference. Pinto was also being promoted heavily on other fake discerners shows like, Alex Jones, and Brannon Howse. So, I asked (via email) Roger Oakland (who had promoted Chris Pinto) and LHT (Lighthouse Trails Research) “Why is Chris Pinto with Chuck Missler at this conference, I thought Chris Pinto was supposed to be on the up and up?” I did not get an answer. I pursued the issue concerning Chuck Missler and sent emails out stating what I had found on the guy, that his connections were all wrong and he was a man never to be trusted and people who are “alerting” and “discerning” should not be speaking along with him or it would stumble the flock. It was soon that a fellow blogger informed me that Missler was on a speaking engagement with Roger Oakland. No wonder I had not received an answer, this blogger posted on it and I concurred that the joining was in bad form, especially considering all the monumental evidence out there that pointed to what a false prophet Chuck Missler is. Quickly I began to be attacked and ostracized for pointing out that simple fact. Then I did hear back from Roger Oakland, he demanded I reveal the identity of the fellow blogger and I most certainly would not have even if I had that information at the time because it was very uncouth, and controlling.  I took the liberty to pose the question again, Why is Pinto speaking with Missler, why are you speaking with Missler, certainly you know who he is, after all these years of knowing him, after all the investigative research into the book Faith Undone, surely you must know that Missler is not good. The last communication was, “I WILL NOT GO THERE.” from Roger Oakland in regards to my line of questioning on Chuck Missler. To Roger Oakland’s benefit, he did attempt to appease me by saying “they” (IDK who this meant) were in contact with the group that was putting on the conference (where Chuck Missler was to join Roger Oakland) and “things were happening behind the scenes that you (I) did not know about.” In the end, I waited for another blogger to conduct Matthew 18 and waited, and finally did my own blog post about the whole issue (See, “A time to speak” below). In the end, Roger Oakland did not end up speaking at this conference, and consequently two others bailed out, David Hocking and Ray Yungen. This does not mean anything however, because none of those who left that conference ever came out and stated that Chuck Missler is a false prophet, false discerner, and out of pure heart and a desire to stand on sound doctrine did they submit that Missler is wrong in anyway, they simply left quietly without reference. It was my conclusion after finding out that Blue Letter Bible which was started by Chuck Missler (Khouse) as well as Sowing Circle (which is another Missler related venture) did I realize that what could have been (is) a contributing factor for all the silence was that these men have ministries with ties to Missler’s ministries (by ties I mean $$$). Obviously there are links from BLB to Hope for Today and to UTT and other ministries Roger Oakland has overseas. It was assumed that Roger Oakland left the US speaking circuit to attend to those ministries overseas, however he does still speak at conferences in Canada, and probably other countries as well, Africa comes to mind of a recent trip Roger Oakland took there… Anyway, Yesterday I saw this over at KHouse Africa. I am not totally amazed by this. Yes if you click enough you can get from KHouse Africa to UTT. And if you look hard enough you too can find out why there has not been a complete severing of ties between Missler and Oakland. At one time I truly valued Roger Oakland’s ministry, his book (if he indeed wrote it) Faith Undone, helped me to see more than he intended I believe. The first prophecy conference I ever went to was in Arizona where I heard David Hocking, Chuck Missler, and Roger Oakland do presentations, so I know that they have worked together in the past. It had been my hope at one time that Roger Oakland was merely deceived by Missler and once he saw with his own eyes, and did his own vetting of Missler he would realize that Missler is truly a WOLF and Roger would flee immediately, however that never happened. There are some people who truly see no harm in Chuck Missler, KHouse Africa, selling Roger Oakland’s material. Some will say that Roger has no control over who sells his merchandise (Amazing Discoveries/SDA ministry) or who links to UTT (Lighthouse Trails), and that what would be more disconcerting was if Roger linked to Missler. With that line of thinking I have little to say in rebuttal. I do know that these networks of people exist, they support one another, they cover for one another, they use some to “expose” and others to endorse all the while remaining bedfellows. What you do with this information is for you to wrestle with.

Related Links by N4TM:

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2011/12/24/a-time-to-speak/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/slight-of-hand-false-prophet-chuck-missler-still-on-speaker-schedule-with-other-calvary-chapel-discerners/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/cons-spies-and-a-misguided-compasssthe-complicated-world-of-discernment-false-information/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/im-gonna-knock-you-out/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/the-network-discernmentdeception-broad-is-the-way/

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/walter-j-veith-lht-and-some-amazing-discoveries/

**as always external links used do not constitute as an endorsement but are used as reference, do your own due diligence in exercising discernment**

The Network: Discernment/Deception Broad is the way

I must preface this piece with a disclaimer and a warning; first of all I must let you know that any discernment group or organization mentioned hereafter is not being attacked personally. I am not here to make enemies, I am here to call into question affiliations and discrepancies as I see them and obviously I do not expect any in the aforementioned to respond or give an account to me, you could say the questions are rhetorical in nature and are meant to elicit critical thinking in the reader if nothing else at all is accomplished. Second, a warning to those who are attempting to instigate or lure me out, I do not count myself worthy of such attention but if you should be trolling around seeking to devour and lay blame at my feet for exposing conspiracies that no one in the “Networks” would ever expose than truly you’re wasting your time. I do not write for anyone, I am not part of any organized group of “discernment” ministry, I do not have a P.O. Box and various ghost sites soliciting money for fake “ministries.” I do not travel the world or speak throughout the country and thus have no need of “love offerings.” I have no “fan” base, I have nothing but time and prerogative and if I see something I’m going to say something, isn’t that what “The State” wants anyway? I understand controlled opposition. I understand the modus operandi of those who elicit even those of us who are unconnected to the game and try to wield us like puppets. Since I am aware of some of the controlled opposition’s tactics I exert the right to start and stop, gain reflection, seek God’s guidance in all things, and above all; live my life to the best of my ability applying God’s grace and affection toward me, a wretch, who has been given a gift of eternal life through Christ Jesus.

The Network: A lily pad?

I have been looking back recently; researching old connections amongst the brethren, trying to ascertain how far back they go and also to find lost pieces of history that often get buried on the ‘internet’ because history is often being rewritten. This morning I found an old site called (Irvinellis)Tri-pod.com, this site is called “End Times Journal” on it’s face page. It’s director is Irvin W. Ellis, he’s Canadian. This old out dated unattended (ghost) site is said to have begun in 1999 and appears to have had active journals through 2001/3 but has nothing new on it. It also says it is an extension of Understand The Times (UTT) a ministry of Roger Oakland.

“A few days ago while I was thinking about deception, an illustration I once heard came to my remembrance. Every “lily pond” begins with a single “lily pad.” The first leaf that appears on the pond usually is quite inconspicuous. This single original “mother pad” divides and becomes two. The two pads then divide to become four, the four become eight, the eight divide to become sixteen, and the process continues until eventually the entire pond is covered. The point that is being made here is quite simple. Notice before the very last division of the lily pads, the pond is only half covered. The single pad that was once inconspicuous has now become much more significant. As we can see, the process of covering the pond did not happen at a linear rate. The pond was covered by a process we call a geometric progression. The paradigm shift that has taken place within Christianity over the past several decades has occurred in the same way that lily pads cover a pond.” Roger Oakland- “What’s happening in the Church Today, End Times Journal 1999 vol.1 No.1” (site used as reference not an endorsement)

He was meditating on “deception,” and allegorically applied the lily pond, infected as it were, by one lily pad. There are key words in this small excerpt that stand out to me as well as questions. My first question would be, Where and/or whom did you hear the illustration of a lily pad, is this a common mathematical allegory or was this an implanted memory? Second sentence, the first leaf of the lily pad is “often inconspicuous?” Really, is this an assertion or an opinion? If we stay with the theme of using the lily pad scenario and apply it to spiritual matters, is this “mother pad” (sentence three) the Roman Catholic Church? How inconspicuous is the RCC? Truly the first leaf would be Mystery Babylon, the epicenter of all abhorrent pagan religions, correct? The “mother pad” divides into two, maybe that is where we see Babylon and Rome? The two become four, could we be jumping ahead to Greece, Alexander the great? See the Book of Daniel. The following keeps multiplying however Oakland uses the term “dividing.” Maybe I’m a total ingoramous in math, but we’ll leave the math to the smart people. The pond is covered by a “process we call a geometric progression,” who is “we” in this statement? Is the ‘we’ a reference to people in general who all know about Geometric Progression or those who are purposely blanketing the church with deception, or the ones who are assisting in this article? Lots of questions when I see someone referring to ‘we’ in an article that is supposedly written by one single person. (1+1 (n)= we) Last sentence in this excerpt, “The paradigm shift” that has taken place within Christianity over the past several decades has occurred in the same way…” Ok, first off the use of “Paradigm shift” is alerting, I guess to Roger Oakland who had at this point already done extensive study in terminology of New Agers is not bemused by throwing this lingo in whenever it suits, but for me it struck a chord. Then the term, “within” Christianity is mentioned, this to me indicates that he knows there’s a deception taking place “within” the body and it’s purposeful not an accident, not undetermined in its goal, but mathematically evident and while the church is Dividing, the deception is able to multiply.  Keep in mind this article was written in 1999 (so we are told). Prior to this article, in 1997, another collaborative effort was made via Reel Productions.

Another Piece of the Network

A movie entitled, Countdown to Eternity, directed by Jim Tetlow, staring: Chuck Smith, Dave Hunt, Chuck Missler, Roger Oakland and Bill Gallatin was made in 1997, produced by Eternal Productions founder Jim Tetlow head of Harpazo Network (the Harpazo Network has mysteriously disappeared, or been Harpazo’d, I wonder if Missler was involved?). The boys club put together this highly ‘factual’ account of the impending doom of our last days based on the current hysteria and calamity that was befalling the late 1990′s. I’ve watched the first half of this film, via YouTube, and it’s telling that the script hasn’t diverged much since the inception. The crux of the message has maintained its initial steam and that is; to use the headlines of the day, “to apply” them to Scripture, and use them to illustrate that we are in the Last Days. You could justly stop me here and say, “Isn’t that what N4TM claims to do?” Granted, I learned from the best, I was a dubious follower of many of these people I’m now exposing. I was once receiving newsletters from: Missler, strategic trends alerts, UTT, LHT, Prophecy News Watch, Moriel Be Alert, Worldview Weekend Alerts,  and I’m sure others I can’t think of at the moment because it’s been so long since I’ve been a subscriber to anyone! Now rather than try to “apply” the headlines and see how they apply to scripture I am trying to provide information, discern information, and not be blinded and brainwashed by the spin doctors both in and out of the church, but -I digress. As I watched Roger Oakland and Chuck Smith assert with such conviction that the depletion of the ozone layer and the resulting increase in Skin Cancer was proof positive that Revelation 16:8-10 was coming to pass through this tangible means I couldn’t help but realize three things, (1) they really believe what they are saying (at the time), (2) they continue to blindly state the obvious and convolute it to scripture today, and (3) they truly corrupted the scriptures to illustrate Ozone Layer Depletion + Skin Sores = Last Days. Here we are back to simple math, it’s where I’m best so I will stick to basic arithmetic. The portion of scripture being referenced are the fourth and fifth bowl judgments. Correct me here if I am wrong but these bowls follow the revelation of Anti-Christ, the worship of the Beast, the mark of the beast being taken and conversely according to All those involved in this video who believe that the Rapture has already occurred, why or how could skin cancer be a mark of the Last Days especially since the whole church is still left on the planet to see these bowl judgments they are referencing to use that we are in the last days (circa 1997)!? Do you see the logic? The simple math does not add up, or rather it does, its summation is this; these men are either fool hearted and are so in love with the Lord that they cannot discern that they are twisting scripture because they desire so desperately for Christ’s return, or they know exactly what they are doing, what they are saying, are being told by the first leaf (mother pad) on what to say and throughout the years have done little in terms of changing their false prophecies and false statements other than applying ‘Current’ news events to match their flawed reasoning of the last days. I found this also, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the video Countdown to Eternity 1997, but it’s a book of the same exact title co-authored by Chuck Missler and Woody Young; Countdown to Eternity, 1992. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the video, especially since the book illustration looks exactly like the original film version cover art and Chuck Missler is also in the video, I’m positive it’s coincidence. (see below for pics)

*Jim Tetlow, director/producer/founder of Eternal Productions has also produced other videos staring Roger Oakland: Queen of All and Messages from Heaven. Here is a site that still mentions the Harpazo Network and Jim Tetlow, however the Harpazo.net has been harpazo’d from the internet. (Links NOT an endorsement-as always)

False Assertions via Current DVD’s continue

By looking back one can determine that what we see now at present day is newly gift wrapped old claims and false prophecies in HD format. If you thought the Network stopped making movies in 1997 you’d be dead wrong. Remember the Left Behind series? There are untold tentacles in the production world that pump out sensationalist movies that the END IS NEAR and it doesn’t take much investigating to find them. For instance, I started with Countdown to Eternity, look at the production company from that initial movie, it leads you to new ghost sites, then look at other movies (Docudrama’s they are called in some circles) and look at the production companies there, check out the directors, the “actors” or “expert speakers,” and see what you will find, a vast network of organized minions working around the clock disseminating falsities. Caryl Matrisciana is another member of the Network. She and her husband have been around for decades. Caryl’s husband Pat Matrisciana has been playing all sides of the game. He is a producer of film both secular and non-secular. Pat has ties to CIA and other notorious elk like Tim LaHaye. It is no wonder that Caryl is in the same business as her husband. She is supposedly a ‘former’ cult follower of yoga. I state supposed because when someone’s early years are not recorded and we are simply told this information and expected to believe it in my opinion it is questionable. Caryl Matrisciana co-authored Roger Oakland’s book, “The Evolution Conspiracy,” 1991(forward by Hal Lindsay). Caryl and Pat Matrisciana (Jeremiah Films) have been dear close friends of Roger Oakland, or at minimum constant friends through the decades and have helped produce and sell his various DVD’s. Pat Matrisciana produced the film version of Evolution Conspiracy: A quantum Leap into the New Age in 1988. Caryl and Roger’s most recent venture being, “Wide is the Gate,” a revamped and updated (factual) account of the apostasy gripping the church and why we’re in the last days type of video. Caryl has had an interesting life, her bio speaks volumes (not an endorsement). Wide is the Gate volume 2 includes the following speakers:

ABOUT THIS DVD: 5 PARTS – 40 MINS EACH: Experts interviewed by Caryl Matrisciana for WIDE IS THE GATE VOLUME 2 include Eric Barger, Jason Carlson, Mike Gendron, Sarah Leslie, Jan Markell, Tom McMahon, Johanna Michaelsen, Brenda Nickel, Roger Oakland, Chris Quintana, Warren Smith, Ray Yungen, Paul Wilkinson and others.

Nothing Personal (referring to disclaimer and warning in preface)

Notice all the names of experts and how often you will see them endorsing one another, sharing pulpits and conferences, selling each others books, DVD’s, etc. This is a Network my friends that goes deep and wide, “Broad is the way,” and this is the main reason you will never see them truly exposing one another. This is not even the tip of the iceberg. If the Network exists start to ask yourself some key questions. Do the research and see if these people are or are not truly interwoven with one another. Whether or not some started out for the good and were turned is not the point if they are in fact turned already, because they truly have to know that they are working for someone/thing and ultimately when Mammon is behind much of the motivation how can the perpetuity of truth really be claimed?

This post was inspired by the new version of history, Let there be Light, because there was once an original book, Let there be Light, Roger Oakland and Dan Wooding 1993 (with forward by Chuck Smith).
Now you have to find out who Dan Wooding is…

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A Time to Speak

Ecclesiastes 3

 ¹To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: ²A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; ³A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; ⁴A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; ⁵A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; ⁶A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; ⁷A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; ⁸A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. ⁹What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth? ¹⁰I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it. ¹¹He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. ¹²I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. ¹³And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. ¹⁴I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. ¹⁵That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. ¹⁶And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there. ¹⁷I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work. ¹⁸I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. ¹⁹For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. ²⁰All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. ²¹Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? ²²Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?

http://ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/roger-oakland-exposes-not-chuck-missler.html

Chuck Missler is Compass.org.

Chuck Missler is Sowing Circle.

Chuck Missler is Koinonia House.

Chuck Missler is Blue Letter Bible.

Chuck Missler is SwanSat.

Chuck Missler is Steeling the Mind Conference.

Chuck Missler is off Doctrinally. Chuck Missler is a promoter of false teachers, prophesies falsely, and profits from the sheep he is deceiving.

**A Link Does Not Constitute as an endorsement of the site. Please use your own God given Discernment.

Back story: “Why is Roger Oakland sharing the pulpit with Chuck Missler when we all seem to know Chuck Missler is off doctrinally and is a promoter of false teaching, teachers, and is connected  to the UN and Rome?”

In the summer I was asked by an unnamed source to “Look into Missler.” So I did. What I found was a conglomerate of information on a slew of false teachers Chuck Missler endorses and works with steadily. Missler is a CNP member, Tim LaHaye is the founder of Council on National Policy. The CNP acts like a Conservative Right Wing version of CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) and is highly secretive about its membership. The CNP does however like to brag and hold conferences and “Fundraisers” so occasionally we do find out who are CNP members. Chuck Missler is a CNP member. He also is the founder of Blue Letter Bible. Blue Letter Bible is naturally a part of every Calvary Chapel website. Blue Letter Bible says it was created by Sowing Circle. Sowing Circle is also Chuck Missler. Chuck Missler is also Koinonia House and Koinonia Institute. KI (Koinonia Institute) has on its Board of Regents: Roger Oakland, David Hocking, Tim LaHaye, Ron Matsen (also a UTT Board Memeber), Skip Heitzig (friend of Billy Graham and Jesuit General Boykin), William Welty (Co-Founder of SwanSat, and ISV with Missler), Bill Koenig (Washington “Correspondent”), Joseph Farah (Editor and founder of World Net Daily and a CNP member).

Chuck Missler is consumed with Numerology and Kabala (Jewish Mysticism). He claims he’s warning ‘you’ the Christian about all this; however I believe his obsession in talking about Trans-humanism, Nephilim/Aliens, and Quantum Physics is really his way to form a narrative in the mind of the Christian. He’s involved in government plans in Africa to create a central form of currency, he’s supposedly sending up satellites to create a means of Global Communication, he’s at the helm of the most widely used bible tool on the internet –Blue Letter Bible, altering the word of God via the ISV, and he’s propagating false prophesies (Y2K, Nephilim will return, etc.). In the Book that Chuck Missler co-wrote with his wife Nancy Missler it is stated that lukewarm Christians will be in outer darkness, a sort of purgatory. This is a paraphrase from what I remember of reading obviously, but I thought that it was highly unusual for such a renown “Bible Scholar” who runs an Institute on how to read the bible to get that so blatantly wrong. Missler was handing out his book for free like candy at a prophesy conference a few years back. A friend of mine read the book; it was so disturbing that she approached her then senior Pastor with her concerns when it was later revealed that the pastor was going to host a Steeling the Mind conference at their particular Calvary Chapel. The senior pastor knowing that Chuck Missler is the origin of Steeling Mind the Conferences, via Compass.org heard the evidence and did nothing. The Steeling Mind conference was still held. Chuck Missler is part of the original group at the birth of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. He worked at various Government installations while he was “teaching the Bible at Calvary Costa Mesa.” His money is tied to Calvary Chapel. His Compass.org organizes Israel trips that many other Senior CC pastors can utilize. Missler’s Compass works as an “agent” for all those popular “Teachers, Watchers, and Discernment Elite” who are on the list as available to come to your church. Money is not the root of all evil, the LOVE OF MONEY, is. When money that comes from such a blatant Wolf is what is funding your ministry or missions comes before the Gospel there is a problem. I truly believe there are those with hearts for children and the lost, but if you know the funds are coming from an evil source it’s greater to stand on the Gospel and Christ’s Righteousness than worry about where the money is going to come from. God is able to care for His children. There was an article that attempted to ‘cover’ for “good guys” who get snickered into speaking on the same platform with “bad guys” to form “bridges.” Sorry, that article was more controlled opposition. In this particular situation, I know of five or six people who directly asked Roger Oakland why he’s speaking with Chuck Missler in 2012 when all the evidence is stacked against Missler. Once the Sowing Circle/Blue Letter Bible money link to missions run by Oakland became evident, and sharing the Board of Regents between UTT and Koinonia Institute became evident, it became perfectly clear why there was a silence on this question. When I was first asked to look up Missler it was for another “Watchman” who is popular in alerting the church body about New Age Infiltration (not Oakland), and that speaker directly replied to me “Thanks for the information.” He went on to speak with Missler anyway as well. This is not for the faint of heart folks; the Word of God is true and will be fulfilled.

Jesus warned us that these false brethren would rise from among us. We should not be so surprised when we see once “rock solid” bible teachers etc., fall by the wayside. There were attempts in LOVE to contact Roger Oakland regarding all this information. People who personally sat across from him while he remained silent. The Lord can certainly still do a work, I don’t deny that. I can be wrong. All this could be planted information and Chuck Missler could be a saint and not who we have discovered him to be, but I don’t think so. What does this mean for you who have counted on the information by said ministries? It only says, lay down all idols, and follow Christ alone. Rest on the Pure word of God and the ability of the Holy Spirit to give you wisdom  to discern the spirits. Stop denying the power and might of the Holy Spirit by leaning on men (and women) and their interpretation and trust in the Lord again to complete the work He started. Things are crazy right now in the world but even more so in the Church. We need to wake up and trim our wicks now more than ever. The deception is deep, wide, and viral. I pray for all those involved in this mess. I pray somehow through all this the Lord God Almighty will be glorified, that we can say “Praise God! He is Calling me yet again unto Himself!” Do not be dismayed or afraid, our Lord is covering those whom He has called. Pray. Pray. Pray.

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